Re: Jobs in PSU and Pvt Sector for Mechanical Engineer

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ankush kuhar

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Apr 6, 2011, 12:12:31 AM4/6/11
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On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 8:06 AM, Partha Mishra <partha....@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Biswajit,
Most Pvt. sector or Public Sector companies recruit engineers/professionals either through campus interview or through off-campus recruitment process. However since you particularly inquired about companies in Assam, let me hint you that companies are more willing to induct people with no mobility constraint. Particularly PSUs, whose field of operation is very far stretched, want their employees to be ready to work in different parts of the country.
Pvt.sector in Assam is still far away from being called full-fledged, to the best of my knowledge. However if you want to work in the sales/marketing sector, many good Pvt. sector companies have their centers in Assam as well.
In case of PSUs, most of them conduct their recruitment every year in two phases. First is campus selection, where the concerned company visits various institutions and select prospective candidates from there. While some invite students directly for personal interview, the interviewees chosen based on their CV and cut-off marks laid down by the company, others go with the various preceding stages like aptitude tests, group discussions etc. before selecting for the final personal interview. However as has been noticed so far, most of the PSUs choose their minimum cut-off marks to be equivalent to 1st class marks.
Second is the off-campus selection, where the companies come out with advertisements for application from students. Some companies like NTPC, ONGC, OIL etc. hold their own written test, getting selected in which, you'll be further invited for the later rounds. Certain other companies like IOCL select students for interview based on their GATE score.
For off-campus recruitment, I would suggest you to keep visiting the websites of the concerned companies regularly. Application can be made online. The last date for application in case of IOCL and ONGC is normally kept sometime in February and April respectively.
For pvt. sector, I would like other counselors to suggest which companies have their sales/maintenance facilities etc. in Assam so that our friend here can apply for those companies and try to get posted in Assam. One suggestion from my side is Ashok Leyland.

On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 9:27 PM, ankush kuhar <anki...@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Counselors,

Xomidhan has received a query regarding which you or your friend may be familiar with. If you have any suggestion/information to share, please revert this mail.

Name: biswajit haloi

Education:         B.E.(mechanical),3rd year     hslc-78%,12th-76%(pcm-71%)

AIM :         mechanical engineer

Question  : i want to know how can i get a job in pvt sector  or PSU's companies of assam as an engineer.i am studying mechanical engineering in annamalai university,tamil nadu .



Regards,
Ankush




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Navadeep Boruah

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Apr 6, 2011, 12:34:13 AM4/6/11
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I totally agree with Partha that companies are willing to hire people without mobility constraint. I know one person who had an excellent interview in IOCL but said that he wanted to be posted in Digboi. Obviously he was not selected for the company. But I would tell you take a hard look at why you want to work for a PSU. Gone are the days of getting paid in the PSUs without doing any work. If you think that you are going to have an easy time in the PSU you are grossly mistaken. I can say this from my experience of four years in Indian Oil. At least inside the oil and gas installations its a pressure cooker environment. This is a place where people literally play with their lives everyday while being on the job. Three of my friends have died on duty in Indian Oil and ONGC. If you are interested in joining petroleum companies only for the sake of high salary and a luxurious life then you can just forget about it. 

In any case let me not discourage you from joining a PSU. Getting a job in a PSU is not as difficult as it looks. Start preparing well for them. Build your concepts of engineering subjects. All these exams are very much like GATE. Grab a guide book for GATE and make sure that you know it inside out. Again this will be difficult if you do not have good concepts. Most of the Assamese students don't clear the written examinations like GATE ( or similar exams held by IOCL in the past ) as they lack the motivation to work hard ( seen many cases ). Hone your skills in math, data analysis, english apart from your regular studies and work as hard as you can. There is no substitute to hard work ( or at least I don't know of any ).  Getting a PSU job is easy with enough preparation !!  Some students keep appearing in these exams year after year without any preparation and then say that cracking these exams are difficult. 

Moreover, do not waste the summer vacations in companies like Indian Oil or OIL in the name of summer training .I know that in these companies students just come, spend some time roaming inside the units, make a report, and get the certificate. The industry people know it. They would always select someone who has a drive to work hard and training in these places is not the best way of displaying it. Go to some institute like IIT and apply your knowledge in solving some interesting and tough problem. Problem solving ability and decision making are very important in petroleum industries especially when you are facing the danger of having a fire in some place containing millions of liters of petrol !!  

I do not know much about private sector in Assam but that should be even easier. I have seen guys working for companies like CEAT in Guwahati who do not have engineering backgrounds. There are some engineers too in these companies, but they are all in sales. I think that this is just a waste of their engineering education as you do not need to be an engineer to be in these positions. I have a friend who is working in Ashok Leyland in Guwahati but he was selected through campus interview. 

The summary is that if you want to be  in a good position you have to ( almost always ) compete on the national level. Work hard and you will be successful. 
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barnali Deuri

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Apr 7, 2011, 3:54:50 AM4/7/11
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For Assam, PSU like Numaligarh Refinery Ltd, has also conducted campus interviews recently in Assam Eng. College , Guwahati, & Jorhat Eng College, Jorhat, also from time to time they held open interviews with written & viva. Details can be found in their websit below.
 
 
http://www.nrl.co.in/

Also the following is the link of Bongaigaon Refinery & Petrochemicals Limited (BRPL)
 
 
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Partha Mishra

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Apr 7, 2011, 3:59:47 AM4/7/11
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NRL mainly inducts students from the Engg colleges within the state. Students from outside assam might be able to apply if they conduct any exams for that.
BRPL is completely under IOCL now. As such, recruitment in BRPL is through IOCL only, up to the best of my knowledge.

ankush kuhar

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Apr 7, 2011, 5:42:52 AM4/7/11
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This has been great experience for me being the Administrator , more than 10 counselors replying to one query   .I would request everybody to keep up the good work  and make Xomidhan a bigger success .  Further I would like to request counselors to reply to all while replying an answer ,basically it is counselor's choice but as saying goes "A problem shared is a problem halved " . its better to share .


Thanks a lot again ,

Ankush

Navadeep Boruah

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Apr 7, 2011, 10:15:02 AM4/7/11
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All the students who are recruited from Assam Engineering College by IOCL are generally posted in BRPL. Till 2005 there used to be some BRLP quotas for engineers which were essentially for engineers from Assam and they used to be posted in Digboi ( mostly marketing division of Assam Oil ). Since the complete merger of BRPL this quota system has been abolished. The last batch of BRPL quota engineers joined Assam Oil Division of IOCL in 2006. 

Manabendra Saharia

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Apr 8, 2011, 4:18:45 AM4/8/11
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Hello,

Among colleges within state, PSUs like IOCL, ONGC, NTPC, BRPL, BHEL, EIL, REL, OIL, NRL also recruit from NIT Silchar apart from AEC and JEC. Though I think EIL, BHEL, NTPC, REL doesn't visit AEC/JEC (I may be wrong with a few of them). You can sit for the companies if you are preferably within upper quartile of your class and they have a huge preference for students with higher Pointers (Percentages).  For on-campus placements, they usually DON'T hold written examination and go by your academic performance and personal/technical interview. For off-campus placements, you will have much stiffer competition with several thousand applicants for dozen posts. Most of them will ask for a valid GATE score nowadays (NTPC and IOCL is asking this time)

In contrast to that, private companies have a much broader selection procedure with written examination, group discussions, personal and technical interview. Though your question leans towards PSUs, I would request you to explore opportunities worldwide too. As one counsellor pointed out, PSUs jobs, atleast in the initial years, is not a babu job and you will be expected to work hours comparable to any private company. If you are going by the pay packet alone, that is a wrong way to approach your career. I would like to share a personal story of two hostel and Assamese seniors of mine whose anecdote might give you a certain perspective on this Issue.

One senior, Mr. A, joined ONGC through campus-interview in 2008 while another senior Mr. I joined TELCON (I highly reputed private company that recruits Mechanical Engineers with total emoluments equivalent to PSUs). Three weeks back, Mr. A quit ONGC citing strenous work profile, lack of career prospects and very less job-satisfaction (His exact words). While the senior in TELCON has risen thorugh the ranks and is getting equivalent salary, emoluments and a very conducive life (He is based in Kolkatta). Currently, Mr. A is looking for greener pastures. This is NOT to say that ONGC is a bad company since quite a lot of my seniors are very happy working there and plan to work there for the forseeable future. But the point is, you must consider your situation first before you decide where you want to work and what kind of job profile is suitable for you. There are hundreds of national and international companies out there which might be more suitable for you and if you force yourself into a situation that you know you can't be comfortable with, you risk disatisfaction and disillusionment at a later stage of life. You are the best judge of yourself.

While students from other parts of country (specially from South) are not afraid to explore the world, we urgently need to expand our horizons. This world is full of opportunities and the name of Assam can only rise if Assamese youth go forward in every possible direction and rise through the ranks. So, get out of your comfort zone, don't limit your imagination and try to make our state shine wherever you are.

Good work will always earn good money. Life is highly non-linear and initial condition sensitive but very often a non-ideal start may lead to any ideal solution.

Good luck !

P.S. Some of my friends from the Traning and Placement Cell of NIT Silchar and seniors helped in framing this reply and I gratefully acknowledge their help. For your benefit, I have already asked them to forward me a comprehensive list of all companies for mechanical engineers in India. If they agree to give me the database, I will forward it to you ASAP. (Public sharing of the database is restricted).

Warm Regards,
Manabendra Saharia
National Institute of Technology, Silchar.



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