AEC or JEC

[ankush kuhar]

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Name :Arnab kumar borah

 

Education:     passed 10+2 (AHSEC board)  )153 in CEE (JAT). 2) 133 in AIEEE B.arch (b.tech not qualify) 3)62% in PCM in 10+2 passed HSLC 1st div from NAGAON GOVT BOYS ( assamese medium). Passed 10+2 in 2011 (english medium)

AIM :     Study Engineering

 

Question  : - if i called for CEE counsiling than which college(AEC or JEC) & which BRANCH should i choose as 1st preference? Morever shud i give preference the college than the branch?

 

Regards,
Ankush

[Anshuman Dutta]

AEC definitely should be the first preference . In JEC the computer science department is very good. Regarding first preference of stream students generally prefer Electronics or mechanical branch. But at the end of the day it certainly depends on the interest of the student and not on what others perceive as good or better. So we would request you to first look into  and decide which branch of engineering you are comfortable with and which branch of engineering you wish to study. Engineering is a stream in which all the branches has equal opportunities , all that a engineering grad needs to do is persevere and upgrade ones skills.

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Anshuman Dutta

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[Vikramjit Kakati]

Hi
In JEC you can go for Computer or Mechanical Engineering .  Both the colleges are good . This will depend which one  is further from your  Home, much you will explore you will get much knowledge like Britishes  .

 I am a Mechanical Engineer from JEC, My home town is Guwahati ,  now I am a PhD student at IIT Guwahati in Design Dept.

AEC & JEC should not be your issue . If you love city life then you can go for AEC , If you love a quite suburban life then you can go for JEC .

Moreover I do not like those people who under estimate AEC & JEC and goes to Bnagalore for Private Engineering colleges and frequently says " Donkeys studies in AEC & JEC " . Most of the overseas engineers of Assam  are from those two institutes .
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Vikramjit Kakati

 

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[Arunjyoti Das]

Hi,
I would like to add that,if you think for an immediate placement after
your course is completed,then you have to consider the campus
recruitment scenerio in both of the institutions.As far as I
know,there is a 100% campus placement opportunity in JEC for Civil and
Mechanical engineering since last 3-4years.But in other branches
also,around 60% students are placed via campus recruitment drive in
JEC.Some companies allow candidates to appear in tests only if they
have throughout 60%of marks(class x,xii and B.E.).In future it may be
65% also.
TCS,Satyam,Huwawei,infosys,CTS etc. all companies hires not only Comp.
Sc. students but also other dept. like Electrical,Mechanical etc.
My persönal suggestiön is that don't be panic for a job.For an
Engineer,a suitable job is always there for you.Even I know many
AEC/JECians who have struggled for around 3/4 years in Bangalore/Delhi
seeking for job and now everybody is settled down with handsome
packages of salaries. Take admission in that branch which your mind
really want to study, and you wish to know how engineering is really
shaping the future of mankind. According to me,teaching standard is
almost same in both AEC & JEC.With best wishes.

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[Navadeep Boruah]

As far as my friends tell me, CS deptt. in JEC used to be good. But most of the good faculty members have left the college in the past 4-5 years. At least thats what I heard. 

In any case I would strongly recommend not to stay in the hostel of AEC. The study environment in the hostels of AEC is pathetic. It is the worst among all engineering colleges that I have seen. Even the senior profs of the college are not interested in taking the classes. Worst of all, they lie a lot regarding their own achievements. Once I heard this professor from chemical engineering bragging in front of students saying that he has designed the revamped crude distillation unit of Guwahati Refinery !!  

Better to stay in some private hostel close to the campus to form a study circle of your own. You will not have to walk to Maligaon every night in first year to get drinks for your seniors. 

Getting a job after engineering is not difficult, if the student studies religiously while in college. The important thing  is the formation of a dedicated study circle, not the hostel experience. This one holds good for both JEC and AEC. 

Navadeep Boruah
Graduate Student
Department of Chemical and Biomolecular Engineering
University of Maryland, College Park
MD 20742
USA

[Pranjal Pratim Saikia]

AFAIK, as already pointed out the teaching standards are almost same in both the colleges. Even then I would say that some branches are better of being studied in AEC and few others in JEC. If you want to study Comp sc. JEC is an better option. On the other hand for mechanical I would say AEC is a better place. In case you want to pick up electronics or Chemical you don't have a choice, as its not offered in JEC. AEC does offer it and I am a passout of the electronics dept, however there are not many teachers around in our department any more. So you would have to rely on your own to pick up lot of things. But Chemical department was quite ok during our time. I am not sure if few teachers have moved out of the dept ( I know that the HOD, Makhan lal Das sir has moved on to a diff college) but the dept on a whole should still be OK.
Bottom line is, to decide if you are looking for a job after passing out or do you really want to make your basics strong and continue on for higher studies. In case it is the former, I would say you can decide on any of the two, but if you want to have strong fundamentals, I would say decide the college depending on your branch. That said, at the end of the day its your effort and willingness to pick up the concepts rather then just memorizing few equations which would make the difference. Otherwise there is no difference between a Comp Sc. grad from JEC and a Comp Sc. grad from AEC.
Good luck and do let us know what you decide on finally.

@ Navadeep,
I do have a difference of opinion with you as regards living in college Hostel or staying in a private hostel near the college. I wont deny the fact about one sometimes getting asked to get drinks for your seniors.But when you say living in a private hostel is better, i beg to differ.
Let me tell you the AEC that I have seen when I entered in 2002, passed out in 2006 and now in 2011, are three different worlds. Back in 2002 there used to be hardly any campus recruitment going on I have seen our seniors who were just bent on somehow clearing their exams and then try to get a job either in a PSU or some other companies after passing out.When we left college in 2006 we could already feel AEC changing and now its a completely different world, where every one is so much more focused on their career and themselves.
Anyways just to put it in context all the top 3 guys in my dept. from our batch were living in hostels.

Cheers
Pranjal Saikia

Regards
Pranjal Saikia

[Navadeep Boruah]

Pranjal, 

You are entitled to your opinions and so am I. What I wrote is based on my observation on my friends and my brother and his friends who is currently studying in AEC !!  And I would say things have not changed much. Even my brother admits that fact. I know some other guys from his batch who used to run to their relatives house on weekends during the first year so that they could get some time to study. I have seen juniors being pushed around to get pork for seniors on the day before their exams. There is absolutely no environment for studying in the hostels. Whenever I go to the AEC hostels all I see is people drinking, playing computer games and doing some other random stuff not related to studies. The toppers being residents of hostels does not prove anything. For to be a topper all you have to do is to cram everything on the weeks before your exams and then to jot it down on the day of examination.  The point is that, by being in the AEC Hostels one is spending his precious time in doing unproductive work for your seniors.  I was under the illusion that AEC was changing. Had I known these things I would have NEVER put my brother in those hostels. And that is the reason why I suggest the same to others. 

[Partha Mishra]

I would like to add a few lines to the above. In the field of
placements, I've come to know from my friends in AEC that very few
core companies came for campusing for electrical department. And the
T&P cell of AEC sounded a little odd to me. I was told that there is a
student representative and he is responsible for contacting companies
for all branches to visit for campus interviews and all T&P rules like
nos.of jobs per student etc are laid down by him. And the college
authority doesnt intervene in that. Since I was told by a final year
student about all these, I take that its correct.
Keeping this aside, for I dont feel pre-college days are for delving
into placement issues, I feel both AEC and JEC are at par in most
issues. Choosing among these two college should depend on his personal
convenience. And the branch should be chosen keeping in mind his
interest and not the market trend.

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[Tapan Borah]

Navadeep, i will differ with you regarding the hostel life in AEC. I
have personally stayed in hostels of AEC, IIT and in overseas, and I
can proudly say that AEC hostel life is best. Most importantly it
taught you to be a good human being( you will be far better prepared
after to face life after this, atleast i was and i can give lots of
other examples).

At our time, there were not enough good faculty in AEC(specially in
E&T and CS), and as per knowledge the situation is still the same. but
the faculty problem is there in almost all colleges in India(excluding
IIT and NIT).

Another Plus point about AEC is that the student quality tends to be
very good in AEC.

Tapan

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"...The best thing to have is the freedom to say no. If one has that,
he really doesn’t need anything more.…”

[Navadeep Boruah]

Tapan, you are entitled to your opinions. One doesn't need a hostel life to learn how to be a good human being or to be better prepared for life. AEC Hostel life is fun for sure. I have stayed quite a few times in the hostels of AEC and had a good time there. What matters is whether the hostel environment is conducive to learning or not !!  Everyone should be proud of their institutions. Regarding AEC hostel being better as compared to hostels of IIT and overseas, I am not going to say anything (again, you are entitled to your opinions), but I am definitely going to have laugh at this ( I am entitled to mine) !!! 

[Tanujjal Bora]

I second Pranjal and Tapan. Staying in private hostels is not a good idea. And there is no good private hostel in Ghy. I have visited many of them for my own brother also. They are worst than AEC hostels. Only thing one can avoid by staying in private hostels is orders from their seniors. I will suggest to stay in AEC hostels. Definitely, we can not compare them with IITs or any other overseas hostels. But in institutional hostels we learn many things apart from just studying.

I am not a graduate from AEC, but believe me I have seen worst. I have faced and seen how juniors are harassed. I have seen my friends getting paralyzed. So, what happens in AEC hostels is nothing. Yes, it is very hard for a newcomer to find some time for his own study. But if you are smart enough, you will always find a way. We used to study atleast 2-3 hours in library everyday after class hours. So if someone complains that they do not have enough time to study, I will laugh at that.

My brother stayed in AEC hostel and he faced many problems initially. But later he realized what he learned by staying in those hostels. He learned how to behave, how to care, how to do things smartly, how to manage time etc. So, I will say do not miss the hostel life. There are many things to know apart from those written on a book.

Regards
Tanujjal

Tanujjal Bora
PhD Research Scholar
Center of Excellence in Nanotechnology
Asian Institute of Technology, P. O. Box 4
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[Pranjal Pratim Saikia]

Navadeep,
Of coz we are both entitled to have our opinions. And I was expressing my opinions only. What sounds strange to me about students being sent out on errands on the day before the exam. I am absolutely confident that this never happened to any of my hostel batch mates ever, being sent out on the day before the exam. Since you say your brother has faced it himself, I take your word for it. If this is the case it is sad to hear .
As for being a topper the marks from the theory exams don't alone account for the total marks. In most of the sems ( I dont remember the exact details) it is 50-50 distribution over theory and practicals+sessionals. Now craming up for theory exams is ok but even for sessionals and practicals....Anyways even to cram up you do need time to study I guess. Also its kinda strange when on an average most of the cramers land up in hostel's.( Maybe its a case of distribution). And as others have mentioned its not always about the stuff written in books that makes a person successful in life. I would still stick my neck out and say that it absolutely depends on the person how he wants to manage his time. Agree the initial few months is a bit tough, but if someone really wants to do well, he can still go on with his studies.

Pranjal.

[Unni Barchamua]

This is one of the most crucial period for most of the students who are aiming to study engineering. The most important question nagging them:-

'Which Branch should I opt for?'
'Which Engineering college will be best for me?'
'How will I manage my studies?'
'How will be the Hostel Scenario?'

And there are countless other doubts about Engineering life.

Choosing a branch is indeed one of the most important task for a student if he/she thinks academically. Choosing the right college is also another important task, as it will ensure good faculty, good placement, good research base.

Number of students entering Engineering has increased undoubtedly in the last few years and hence after passing out in order to get a very good placement or college(for higher studies) they are to appear in national level exams. As for instance INDIAN OIL has made it mandatory to appear in GATE before applying.

Right from the beginning it is very important for a student to be well prepared in his stream.

Not every student is fortunate enough to enter the prestigious IITs and the top NITs(BITS Pilani, Jadavpur,Anna University etc.) which have got good faculties. However a student need not get depressed by this fact. The IITs have done a noble job by offering free engineering education online.

http://www.nptel.iitm.ac.in/

The lectures consists of topics from :-

Aerospace Engineering Architecture, Atmospheric Science, Automobile Engineering, Basic courses(Sem 1 and 2),
Biotechnology, Chemical Engineering, Chemistry and Biochemistry, Civil Engineering, Computer Science and Engineering, Electrical Engineering, Electronics & Communication Engineering, Engineering Design, Environmental Science, Humanities and Social Sciences, Management, Mathematics, Mechanical Engineering, Metallurgy and Material Science, Mining Engineering, Nanotechnology, Ocean Engineering, Physics

The topics covered here contain all the main courses followed in the Standard B.Tech curriculum of most Engineering colleges. The lectures are given by very experienced teachers helping the students to maintain a solid concept in their subjects.

There is Massachusetts Institute of Technology which is also offering free education online for the past 10 years.

http://ocw.mit.edu/index.htm

Best search engine is 'YOUTUBE'. They have wide range of Engineering lectures from different Universities.

1. Stanford
2. Yale
3. Keio University
4. Berkeley
5. nptelhrd
6. MIT
7. Harvard

These lectures are of excellent standard, and hence even if a student is not from a good engineering college, he/she can still have the privilege of have a solid base and concept.

They being video lectures can be used any time a student feel comfortable.

I personally used the videos while I was doing my B.Tech and found it satisfactory. I even flunked my class lectures just to listen to the IIT lectures.

Most students complain that the lectures are really boring and useless, its because the lectures are not presented with style. Engineering is not merely a mug up stream. It should be learned systematically and with concept.

The internet is offering so many benefits that a student must exploit its beneficial resource to become a qualified engineer.

I hope that the Xomidhan team finds this piece of information useful and suggest the new aspiring engineers to learn with a difference.

Unni krishna Barchamua
B.Tech(ECE)
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[Manjit Nath]

Thanks a lot Unni for the write-up. This is good piece of information.

The online materials by IIT professors are valuable resources for many technical institutions of India where the problem of good faculty is prominent.

 

Regards,

Manjit

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[Satyakam Dutta]

Amar, can we make the texts below as a page in the homepage of Xomidhan. The mail addresses many questions of aspirants.

Thanks a lot Unni!!

Regards,

Satyakam

[amar jyoti saikia]

Yes Satya, this is definitely  very useful ...!!..We will make effort to put this in our website.

Thanks  Unni for sharing such valuable info. I hope others also will come up with such info in coming days so that our website can be made more informative. 

[amar jyoti saikia]

Hi,

Thanks a lot for participating in this discussion. We have already gathered really useful info regarding AEC or JEC and regarding the branch to choose.

And regarding the hostel, we all know that it ultimately depends on the person how he/she adjusts with the situation/environment and hence it will not be fair to come to a conclusion. Moreover, the original question was not related to hostel and hence we can get back to the student with the information that we have gathered already.

Thanks again for providing such valuable information. I am sure this will help Arnab in choosing the right college and branch.

Regards,
Amar