question about mailings using XMPie software

[Ken Hart]

I'm sure this has come up before, try as I might I cannot find it.  Using print shop mail I can achieve this, but i'm having difficulty finding where in XMPie.

I have a mailing for 16,000 postcards.  Since Our cutter only allows us to cut about 500 sheets at a time I was wondering if there was a way to select all the records of tray 1, print them to a pdf or to my print engine, then come back & do tray 2 and so on.

Praying for positivity.

Kindly,

  Ken

[eko...@gmail.com]

Hi Ken-

With a couple key settings in the XMPie Dashboard, this is a pretty easy puzzle. Your prayers paid off.

In the Process settings in uProduce Dashboard, you'll look in these three sections:

• Range: Check the "Split job to:" checkbox and add the number of postcards in 500 sheets. ex. For 4up, use 2,000 (see below)
  
• Imposition: Use the drop down menu of "Cut and Stack". This will print in a Z-sort or through the stack of 500 sheets. (see below)
  
• INDD Document Advanced Parameters: Check the "Use only single instance (to allow other jobs to run in parallel)" Checkbox (see below)
  
  

If your postcards are 4 up, then you will automatically get 8 print files of 2,000 records.

[couch]

The simplest solution would be to print different record ranges. EG, 1-500, then 501-1000, etc. 

If you have uProduce server, you could also achieve this by processing the whole database with the "split into batches" setting with "500 records".

Another option, if you have StoreFlow, could be to use Xerox FreeFlow Core to create a prepress workflow to separate the job into batches, and/or to apply different tray settings.

[west-digital.fr]

Hello,

If "XMPie software" means uDirect - the XMPie desktop solution, then I am afraid that there is no built-in, automated solution.

The best you could do with uDirect would be...

Either to split your data source into separate batches (in MS Excel?), then manually open each separate Excel file in the uDirect palette, then compose an output file, which is far from automated - and you need to wait for each composition to complete, before you can start the next one!

Or, to compose from the whole, single Excel file, then split the single resulting output file into separate output files, per instance with Acrobat Pro. Again, not automated at all, in the way you certainly would like.

As Ed and Steve mentioned, the best automation could be achieved with an XMPie server (uProduce), or an XMPie workflow automation (FreeFlow Core). There, you have a real commercial automation.

west-digital.fr

[fred...@gmail.com]

I agree if you have uproduce server you can split your data via TrayMark Variable.

We have used the desktop version for years, and we would just use Cut and Stack imposition and include the tray data on the mail piece and you can separate your mailing based on the tray number.

If you want to get really fancy, you can create an extra page in your document to include a slip sheet that will trigger based on the tray mark.

I do like the feature in PrintShip mail to split data from the desktop version. Maybe XMPie will add that one day.

 

Cheers, Dan

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[fred...@gmail.com]

I agree if you have uproduce server you can split your data via TrayMark Variable.

We have used the desktop version for years, and we would just use Cut and Stack imposition and include the tray data on the mail piece and you can separate your mailing based on the tray number.

If you want to get really fancy, you can create an extra page in your document to include a slip sheet that will trigger based on the tray mark.

I do like the feature in PrintShip mail to split data from the desktop version. Maybe XMPie will add that one day.

 

Cheers, Dan

 

 

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[ROBERT HOPFNER]

why limit the server to 1 instance? In my experience, it's faster to let the whole server work on each batch. It's been a while but I used to do 350k records at 5k/batch on a 24 instance server. Fun to watch that thing light up and PDFs start dropping in the output folder...

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[eko...@gmail.com]

Hi Bob,

When I posted that detail about single instance I had a feeling that someone would question that suggestion. I prefer the single instance because most of the installations that my team at 121 Services supports have a lot of traffic with a mixture of constant proofing and printing. I also don't know if Ken was using a SKIP operator and the Split To Batches doesn't always work reliably with SKIP. I also noticed that Ken's email address has AlphaGraphics.com in it and they have a shared uProduce. Out of respect for the other AlphaGraphics users/clients I didn't want Ken to monopolize all of the threads.

So, the single instance is a personal preference and yes, it's fun to watch the Job Center light up.  

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Bob-

I just found another reason to tick the single Instance check box. 

I was using multi-page PDF assets with a 9.8.2 server and the my job kept throwing errors about missing images for the second page of my PDF. After some troubleshooting, I ticked the "Use only single instance..." check box and the missing asset messages disappeared. Hopefully this bug was fixed with newer versions of the software.

[ROBERT HOPFNER]

EKotnik,

 

Thanks for the clarification. I figured there might some preference involved.
I can understand how in a mixed, shared environment, single instances is probably the way to go for reasonable throughput of multiple job sources. I don't believe I have worked on XMPie past 9.01? So multi-[page pdf assets were only a dream at that point. I would deconstruct PDFs to the page level and put them in individually as assets. Accessing pages and layer from within a PDF must seem like magic - unless it fails to work, of course.

 

I also never used Flatten or non-InDesign Rendering once native rendering was available. I needed the InDesign fidelity to remain intact (not everyone's jobs are that "fancy") as much as possible. I had the horsepower to back that choice up though which not all users have access to either.

 

thanks again, "e"

 

Bob

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