[xmpie-users] URL to Path or URL image link to asset?

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jimmie

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Apr 29, 2010, 10:17:26 AM4/29/10
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I have a data file with a data field of the form;
"http://www.a_website.com/asubfolder/someothersubfolder/image01.jpg"
I can read this into an image tag with a javascript function and
present it to the uStore user but...
what I really need to do is allow a user to click the image or a
button associated with the image and have uStore insert the image
file
into a graphic ador for printing.
Is this possible without a custom .net programmed solution?
I know that uStore can update the asset system via a file input
dialog
but I need to do this programmatically from the store page using only
this http source info and either javascript or a qlingo plan file
type
function call.

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Igor Vorobeychik

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Apr 30, 2010, 11:33:08 AM4/30/10
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Any asset used in web to print application as uStore has to be
uploaded today to some network accessible place for uProduce, so
uProduce will be able to "grab" it

jimmie

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Apr 30, 2010, 3:49:50 PM4/30/10
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I had a small back and forth with support at xmpie and as Igor points
out this is not possible however this would be a nice feature to allow
for safe secure streaming of image data into the system for use in
customizing a template. I could imagine this being used with multiple
online image libraries for customizing a print product.

I would like to add this to a wish list!
Just imagine adding a library of images from a customer's site without
having to compromise their security or giving up disk space to a
redundant archive of image files. If a browser can stream the file to
your screen it can stream it to a file.
I mean your screen is just a two dimensional memory array of rgb pixel
values.
I know http wasn't designed for image file transfers but then the
internet wasn't designed to be a home shopping network either.

Igor Vorobeychik

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Apr 30, 2010, 4:32:59 PM4/30/10
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streeming or not uProduce/inDesign need access to the file on the
network.
There is huge difference between what you see and what will be
printed , since you see usually 72 dpi low resolution but you'd like
to use high resolution in print production . you can't guarantee
availability of such image ...

Now be able easily upload assest to uStore , group them , serach them
as well be able to plugin to some lib that sells imagaes like fotolia
willbe nice to have. There are some integrators that already created
such plug-ins , I'd recommend to contact XMPie for mo details .

Even in uStore Press release you can see :
http://www.xmpie.com/?id=1619

...
The latest version of uStore provides a new tool for image handling,
supporting both basic image editing and easy-to-use, semi-automatic
color correction tools, which are enabled by Xerox’s unique Image
Enhancement technology. It features an intuitive and user-friendly
interface, making it simple for non-professionals to handle uploaded
personal images. Additional image handling capabilities, which
leverage the platform nature of uStore, are available through
professional services from XMPie.

...

Igor.

jimmie

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May 3, 2010, 2:27:31 PM5/3/10
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This discussion is getting miles away from my original question and
into areas completely unrelated to my original question.
Let's reboot!
I have told the customer that accessing their files via http is not
possible so now I am trying via ftp (file transfer protocol)!
Now is it possible to use the Uproduce->Campaign->Asset Sources->FILE
SYSTEM->Path: to access an ftp site?
so that now I am changing the stored data cell string from;
"http://www.a_website.com/asubfolder/someothersubfolder/image01.jpg"
into;
"someothersubfolder\image01.jpg"
where the asset folder is defined as;
"ftp://ftp.a_website.com/asubfolder"
obviously a user name and password are required elements in ftp so how
does someone go about accessing this item. I have set the ftp site to
be accessible without a password request in windows but even with the
volume mounted I get the "Failed to initialize...not reachable" error.

Bill

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May 3, 2010, 2:52:41 PM5/3/10
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As far as I know, File System Path means either a drive-like path
(e.g.: "X:\folder, whether X is a real local drive, or a linked to a
remote server), or a \\server\sharedresource\folder-like path.

I am afraid that neither http://server/folder nor ftp://server/folder
are supported, simply because uProduce network paths do not support
http nor ftp for printing.

However, third party tools may allow you define a virtual drive, which
is actually bound to an ftp server. I never used such a tool with
uProduce. Performance tests will certainly be needed. Feel free to
discuss this with your usual Xerox or XMPie representative, before
installing such a tool on the server.

jimmie

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May 3, 2010, 4:06:50 PM5/3/10
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Oh, ouch, you guys at xmpie are killin' me.
Thanks for the answer, although I would have preferred a solution.

I guess I can say with absolute certainty that this thread has reached
it's bitter end.

On May 3, 1:52 pm, Bill <guillaume.besnier...@gmail.com> wrote:
> As far as I know, File System Path means either a drive-like path
> (e.g.: "X:\folder, whether X is a real local drive, or a linked to a
> remote server), or a \\server\sharedresource\folder-like path.
>
> I am afraid that neitherhttp://server/foldernorftp://server/folder
> are supported, simply because uProduce network paths do not support
> http nor ftp for printing.

Timothy Perrett

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May 3, 2010, 5:06:14 PM5/3/10
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Jimmie,

This is not an official XMPie forum... everyone contributes out of
their own good will in an effort to grow the community and generally
make life better for everyone. Please, do not take that tone again
with people like Bill or Igor who have contributed more than anyone on
this forum. Demanding solutions simply wont get you anywhere.

Now, firstly, your asking something that isn't technically possible in
computing. Period. You need to go away, use google, and learn about
protocols at a high level. HTTP != FTP != UNC != etc etc etc. XMPie is
a product, and it has limits... as much as its developers tried to
make it as flexible as possible, there are things that it cannot do.
For the life of me, I wish it could wash my dishes and make me coffee,
alas, it cant (yet) do that.

You state originally that you do not want to "program a custom .net
solution", but perhaps its something you should consider (learning a
programming language) as you could wrap your workflow with some custom
middleware to achieve your end goal, taking into consideration the
current "limits" within XMPie.

Good luck getting a solution.

Cheers, Tim
group administrator

Igor

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Jul 18, 2012, 4:51:27 PM7/18/12
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Pleas read my previous response in this forum , I do not think that there is anything to do with  product segmentation .
Technologically you can do anything today even put people on Mars , but there are priorities in life.
I stand prior For online application like uStore  you need control where you can define source of the low resolution and high resolution image , usually low resolution and JPG, PNG , GIF of 72 DPI but production one should be 200+ DPI 
As for a  uDirect Studio it is a desktop tool and it still possible to do it with QLingo extension can be .Net or C++ .I do not want to compare 2 products and I'm sure if you end up using other product there was a reason but you should see  much larger picture and that is what XMPie about. 


On Wednesday, July 18, 2012 4:13:20 PM UTC-4, Benjamin Glasgow wrote:
I had been looking for a solution to this in uDirect Studio as well. I ended up using FusionPro for the task, it can use http based resources just as easily as local resources. The comment from other users stating that it is simply impossible was wrong. I'm guessing XMPie is avoiding this feature because of product segmentation more so than technical limitations.


On Monday, May 3, 2010 4:06:50 PM UTC-4, jimmie wrote:
Oh, ouch, you guys at xmpie are killin' me.
Thanks for the answer, although I would have preferred a solution.

I guess I can say with absolute certainty that this thread has reached
it's bitter end.

On May 3, 1:52 pm, Bill <guillaume.besnier...@gmail.com> wrote:
> As far as I know, File System Path means either a drive-like path
> (e.g.: "X:\folder, whether X is a real local drive, or a linked to a
> remote server), or a \\server\sharedresource\folder-like path.
>
> I am afraid that neitherhttp://server/foldernorftp://server/folder
> are supported, simply because uProduce network paths do not support
> http nor ftp for printing.

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