Move to Git

[Tom Browder]

Not really cool--unilateral decision to move to git.

Are we supposed to fork our own copy and push to you? Or is it all a
one-man show now?

Best regards,

-Tom

Thomas M. Browder, Jr.
Senior Analyst
ManTech International Corporation
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[Václav Slavík]

Hi,

On 9 Sep 2011, at 18:27, Tom Browder wrote:
> Not really cool--unilateral decision to move to git?

Sorry, I had no idea you still had any interest in developing xmlwrapp -- you didn't commit anything in 6 years and you certainly didn't indicate that when I asked for maintainership to keep xmlwrapp alive back in 2008, on the contrary.

I don't think there's anything "not cool" about it when 100% of the recently active committers (that would be me and Vadim in the past three years) decide to use the tools that suit them best. SF.net is dying a slow death and both GitHub Issues and Google Groups are so much better from both admin and user point of view; I would hope that git's superiority to svn would be undisputed nowadays.

For users, nothing much changes: you can still download releases and if anything, it's easier to download a tarball of the latest and greatest sources now.

Finally, FWIW, my experience is that GitHub noticeably encourages contributions, it is so much easier that preparing a patch and dealing with SF.net -- again for both sides. I'm pretty sure the move will result in at least a bit more contributions.

> Are we supposed to fork our own copy and push to you?

That or plain old patches or GitHub pull requests or just hack away in your "fork" and as long as the commits hit GitHub, they'll be easy to find by me or others and easy to pull in even without any [other] activity on your part.

Regards,
Vaclav

[Tom Browder]

2011/9/10 Václav Slavík <vsl...@gmail.com>:
...

> Sorry, I had no idea you still had any interest in developing xmlwrapp --
> you didn't commit anything in 6 years and you certainly didn't indicate

Well, I did at least talk about making a Debian package [and hence my
current interest--I need it for a customer], but that's okay.

> SF.net is dying a slow death

Just curious, are you referring to specific comments and large defections? Or?

> and both GitHub Issues and Google Groups are so much better from both
> admin and user point of view;

I'm not disagreeing.

Thanks for the explanation.

Best regards,

-Tom

[Václav Slavík]

On 10 Sep 2011, at 23:35, Tom Browder wrote:
>> SF.net is dying a slow death
>
> Just curious, are you referring to specific comments and large defections? Or?

It's the overall impression I get. It's exceptional to find any new project that is hosted there, I encounter GitHub and to a lesser degree Google Code, but it's rarely SF.net. A few years back, everyone used SF.net, but not so anymore. And no wonder, with the current hodge-podge of unintegrated third party services plus the old, subpar sloooow native SF.net tools.

Here's some attempt at quantifying it:
http://www.readwriteweb.com/hack/2011/06/github-has-passed-sourceforge.php

Regards,
Vaclav