Issue in upgrading to XMLMind v 6_0_0

[Fred Baker (fred)]

I have just downloaded the new code, which was apparently released a few weeks ago. Each time I do this I have to remember how to add the XXE add-on, and each time it seems just a little different.

In this case, there is a URI that needs to be removed from the standard list, which is OK but tool a little searching to find. But now attempting to add
http://xml2rfc-xxe.googlecode.com/svn/release/xml2rfc.xxe_addon
results in a message that the files “in that directory” (is that a directory?) have to be zip encoded.

Anyone have a clue what the story is? What do I need to do?

[Fred Baker (fred)]

On Aug 19, 2014, at 5:18 AM, Avri Doria <dor...@gmail.com> wrote:

I checked with xmlmind yesterday to see if they could give me a clue.  their answer:

The xml2rfc-xxe-0.8.0 add-on is marked to be compatible with XMLmind XML Editor v5. This implies that it has not been upgraded to be made compatible with latest v6. That's why it is not listed in the "Install Add-ons" dialog box.

I suggest that you contact the authors of this add-on and ask them to release a version which has been tested against XMLmind XML Editor v6. If the xml2rfc add-on already works OK with v5, then this should be a snap.
  

Thanks. For the moment I have reverted to XMLMind 5.9, as that is what I was using before. I think Bill has let the project lapse, and I don’t know who is maintaining it now.

[Fred Baker (fred)]

Reviving a thread from August.

I have updated to MacOSX Yosemite, and find myself Really Really wanting to use XMLMind 6. There was, last I tried it, an issue with the xml2rfc plugin, and I note that https://code.google.com/p/xml2rfc-xxe/w/list only has an update to XmlMind 5.

Has someone generated the update for XMLMind 6? If so, could they post it and point the rest of us to it?

[Fred Baker (fred)]

On Dec 16, 2014, at 1:11 PM, Warren Kumari <war...@kumari.net> wrote:

AFAIK, no-one has gotten to this yet.
Can you remember what the issue was?

The problem I had going from 5_9_0 to 6_0_0 was that it required a file called rfc2629-xhtml.ent to open an XML file. I didn’t get that message with 6_1_0.

I’m following https://code.google.com/p/xml2rfc-xxe/wiki/Installation. It says to copy http://xml2rfc-xxe.googlecode.com/svn/release/xml2rfc.xxe_addon into “install addons”.

I just installed version 6_1_0. It asked me whether there were any add ons I thought might need to be checked, and I told it to check them. It said It didn’t find any it could update.

Added the above to the add ons list.

Then I opened a file, and saw the attached result.

What’s pretty clear is that it’s not doing what we expect. I don’t have the debug environment or information to say why. My first guess is that it’s missing some variable setting.

[Fred Baker (fred)]

BTW, I should tell you I’m on MacOSX 10.10.1 and using Java 8 version 25, not the standard java 6 bundled in MacOSX.

<XLMMind 6_1_0 Result.png>

[Fred Baker (fred)]

is it kinda sorta wysiwyg-ish? If the point is to edit XML, I can do that with what I have (or for that matter with a text editor). The nice thing about this editor is that it has some of the features of a word processor, such as showing you what you’re trying to create rather than the language you’re using to describe that creation.

> On Dec 16, 2014, at 2:30 PM, Brian E Carpenter <brian.e....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I found that the tool called XML Copy Editor insisted on having three files:
>
> rfc2629.dtd
> rfc2629-other.ent
> rfc2629-xhtml.ent
>
> Not a big burden to find and install them, though.
>
> Regards
> Brian
>
> On 17/12/2014 10:43, Fred Baker (fred) wrote:
>> On Dec 16, 2014, at 1:11 PM, Warren Kumari <war...@kumari.net<mailto:war...@kumari.net>> wrote:

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[Fred Baker (fred)]

> On Jan 19, 2015, at 5:46 PM, Warren Kumari <war...@kumari.net> wrote:
>
> Apologies to everyone for the delay, but I have finally gotten a
> chance to try make this better...

No reason to apologize. We really shouldn’t have to change this every release.

I followed your instructions, and can inform you that it works as advertised (MacOSX 10.10.1 and XMLMind 6.1), works correctly (I edited a file, made a minor change, and observed that it did what I expected), and BTW fixed the “delete key” bug that was in the previous version (which the XMLMind people informed me was our fault).

Thanks much!

> It ended up requiring a fair number of changes, because of various
> changes made by XMLMind - for example, they decided to change the
> Configuration schema to make the 'help' tag require a JavaHelp(tm)
> helpset instead of a .jar file, etc... Partial changelog below.
>
> Anyway, I'd like some people to test this before I post it on the main
> download location.
> So, if you are running XMLMind XMLEditor (XXE) 6 or above, please give
> this new version a whirl and let me know how it works. The previous
> version of the plugin (0.8.0) would only run on XXE 5.x, and this new
> version of the plugin (0.8.1) will only run on XXE 6.x, so in theory
> this shouldn't break anything :-)
>
> In order to test this version, please do (in XXE):
> Options -> Preferences...
> Scroll down to 'Install add-ons'
> Click 'Add..' in the 'Download add-ons from these servers:' section
> and paste in 'http://snozzages.com/xml2rfc.xxe_addon'
> Click OK.
> then:
> Options -> Install Add-ons... (note: This is different to where you
> went before - before was "Options -> Prefernces..." then "Install
> add-ons")
> this will go query a bunch of servers, including snozzages.com.
> Scroll down till you see 'XML2RFC plug-in' (it is in the
> 'Configuration' category) and check the little box.
> Hit OK.
>
> It should prompt you to restart, and now you should have a xml2rfc
> option at the bottom of 'File -> New...'. Also, when you open an
> Internet Draft XML file, you should have a new menu entry called
> XML2RFC.
>
>
> Please report back how this works...
>
> W
>
>
>
> 0.8.1 - Jan 19, 2015
>
> Update to support XMLmind XML Editor Version 6.x.
> In order to support multiple major version (5.x, 6.x, etc) we have to
> have multiple packages.
> This is annoying, but necessary - this addon includes Java, and so the
> xxeVersion tag must match the version of XXE against which we
> compiled. See the XXE Addon Packaging Guide for details.
>
> Converted the xml2rfc.xxe configuration to new help attribute
> XMLMind changed the format for the 'help' configuration element. It no
> longer takes a location of a _help.jar file, but rather a path to a
> JavaHelp™ helpset.
>
> Removed the keyPressed binding for DELETE and BACKSPACE.
> No-one can remember what there were supposed to do, but, apparently
> they are not doing that :-)
>
> Cleaned up some of the HTML (like in the ChangeLog).

> --
> I don't think the execution is relevant when it was obviously a bad
> idea in the first place.
> This is like putting rabid weasels in your pants, and later expressing
> regret at having chosen those particular rabid weasels and that pair
> of pants.
> ---maf

[Fred Baker (fred)]

Problem: I just downloaded XMLMind 6_2_0. It doesn’t pick up the plugin, and as a result it is not there in the list for the “Install Addons” step. Did the URL change?

> On Jan 19, 2015, at 5:46 PM, Warren Kumari <war...@kumari.net> wrote:
>
> Apologies to everyone for the delay, but I have finally gotten a
> chance to try make this better...
>

[Fred Baker (fred)]

On Jan 26, 2015, at 10:56 AM, Warren Kumari <war...@kumari.net> wrote:

Give this a whirl: https://code.google.com/p/xml2rfc-xxe/wiki/Installation

As of this morning, I’m on 6.2.0. I have attached screen shots of what I see, which is that what worked quite well on 6_1_0 doesn’t appear to be working on 6_2_0.

[Fred Baker (fred)]

On Jan 27, 2015, at 10:57 AM, Warren Kumari <war...@kumari.net> wrote:

You are probably not seeing it in the "Install" list because it is already installed (from when you had 6.1.0) - can you click on "Uninstall" and see if it is listed there? (Install will only show the subset of things that are not installed)

Not sure where the “uninstall” you want is located. More detail please?

Another option is to click "File -> New..." and scroll all the way to the bottom and see if "xml2rfc" is listed...

Did that and want to the bottom. There is indeed an “xml2rfc” that allows me to create a new file. I’d like to be able to work on an existing file...

[Fred Baker (fred)]

Color me confused. The same file that opened in the “I’m showing you XML” format is now opening in the What-you-see-is-kinda-neat” format. 

But thanks.

On Jan 30, 2015, at 7:35 PM, Warren Kumari <war...@kumari.net> wrote:

On Friday, January 30, 2015, Fred Baker (fred) <fr...@cisco.com> wrote:

On Jan 27, 2015, at 10:57 AM, Warren Kumari <war...@kumari.net> wrote:

You are probably not seeing it in the "Install" list because it is already installed (from when you had 6.1.0) - can you click on "Uninstall" and see if it is listed there? (Install will only show the subset of things that are not installed)

Not sure where the “uninstall” you want is located. More detail please?

On the screenshot you sent -- there is Install, and right next to it, Unistall (just above the list of items)

 

Another option is to click "File -> New..." and scroll all the way to the bottom and see if "xml2rfc" is listed...

Did that and want to the bottom. There is indeed an “xml2rfc” that allows me to create a new file. I’d like to be able to work on an existing file...

Yup, and if you click "File, open..." and choose an existing Internet Draft formatted file it should just work - if not, send me the file and I'll have a look - perhaps it is just not recognizing it as an ID?

W

 

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[Fred Baker (fred)]

> On Mar 4, 2015, at 8:56 PM, Mahesh Jethanandani <mjetha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I find myself in the same position as Fred. I installed the 6.2 version of the software, but the xml2rfc.xxe_addon does not work in that release. I am going to drop to 5.9 version of the software.

Before you do, Warren’s update in fact worked. The effect on the UI was different, which had me tricked. When you open an xml2rfc XML file, it shows up correctly, but doesn’t show up until you do so.