What to do with the group?

[Dean R.]

Since Mr. Massy has wrangled the XJ herd over on Yahoo, what shall we
do do with this group?

If you want to invite friends over and have a group that has no rules,
just about anything goes, but we happen to share a love for XJs, I'd
be cool with that.

Or whatever - I'm open for ideas.

--
Dean Rachwitz
MSF Rider Coach
motorcycletraining.com
Mesa, AZ
81 Seca XJ750R
82 Seca XS400R
82 Maxim XJ650J
95 CBR900RR

[Ken Wagnitz]

Hi Dean.

I personally think that Mr Massey has wrangled the XJ herd a little too tightly -eg preventing
posting pictures. But given that the Yahoo group is now operational without all the muslim
preaching and my bike/dick is bigger than yours crowd, I'd say this Google group is no longer
required.
It could remain as a sort of 'in crowd' thing. But with the small numbers, we can achieve the
same thing with an email list.

I am a member of a nominally Ulysses (Oz motorbike club for old farts) Yahoo group. Most of the
posts are jokes or stirring, or sounding off about one thing or another. Occasionally we actually
talk about bike related matters. I enjoy that style of thing, not being an inveterate bike
doer-upper like many on the XJ list. And it seems to me that the sort of stirring Australians do,
is unacceptable to Americans. You seem to me too serious and patriotic and blinkered. On the
Ulysses list we don't take protective offence at someone having a go at us. And in Oz, our
national leader (Prime Minister) and his cronies are not sacred cows.
THAT is what the Google group could be. But does anyone else want that?

regards,
Ken.

[XJ900...@aol.com]

        I think the "Old" Group just got repaired and is somewhat "Self propagating."  Admittedly, the facelift on the home-page, purging files and photos, doing the "roll-call" and making it a "closed community" put some new life in what was getting to be more irritating ... than enjoyable.

 

        I'd say keep both places open.  I have trouble getting to the alternative site, now and again.  But, for "stuff we like to keep private" among the faithful ... the second site is a god-send.

 

        I'll change the attachments limitation on the old place ... if you think that it won't cause a problem.

 

        Give me an idea of what would be the BEST OF BOTH WORLDS... and, I'll do what I can to make it happen.

 

        Rick Massey

[Ken Wagnitz]

Hi Rick.

I can't see how allowing attachements can hurt. The obvious question would be -have you ever seen
a problem with them previously?

People using digest mode or reading posts off the Yahoo site won't see them. Too bad. If they
want to, they can use gmail or an equivalent so they don't flood their ISP's miniscule file limit
with group posts.

There have been a couple of occasions when I've wanted to post a picture of something -can't
remember what now, tank bag, seat bag, bit of my bike, something like that, in response to a
question. So I would have had to post it to the picture site and refer to it, or put it on my
website and refer to it. Too much trouble, the urge left me. OK so call me lazy.

If people post attachments too large, then group members might complain about the size. OK, that
lets everyone know the group expectations. Its called democracy, or self regulation, or
something.

My two bobs worth.

regards,
Ken.

[Inline-4]

Sounds like you make alot of assumptions in Oz too.

For those of you who haven't read "Black Beauty" in the last 20 years
"blinkers" are what us patriotic, humorless Americans refer to as blinders.
You know, those big black leather flaps on a bridle that restricts
peripheral vision on a horse.

An interesting parallel. I wonder if the implication is that we Americans
are all simple beasts who require protection from ourselves or that we have
all been bridled and blinded...

Michael Oberle -'82 Seca Turbo
http://plan9.dnsalias.org:88/xj
->"Home of the XJ DAMHIKT"<-


*-----Original Message-----
*From: XJ-R...@googlegroups.com [mailto:XJ-R...@googlegroups.com]On
*Behalf Of Ken Wagnitz
*Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 3:35 PM
*To: XJ-R...@googlegroups.com
*Subject: [XJ Riders] Re: What to do with the group?
*
*
*I am a member of a nominally Ulysses (Oz motorbike club for old
*farts) Yahoo group. Most of the
*posts are jokes or stirring, or sounding off about one thing or
*another. Occasionally we actually
*talk about bike related matters. I enjoy that style of thing, not
*being an inveterate bike
*doer-upper like many on the XJ list. And it seems to me that the
*sort of stirring Australians do,
*is unacceptable to Americans. You seem to me too serious and
*patriotic and blinkered. On the
*Ulysses list we don't take protective offence at someone having a
*go at us. And in Oz, our
*national leader (Prime Minister) and his cronies are not sacred cows.
*THAT is what the Google group could be. But does anyone else want that?
*
*regards,
*Ken.