Anxious to get a rowing machine for home use
Joshua Welch
enjoy the workout rowing provide.
Peter Kim
It's a tough call, but you will be getting an great machine, either way. So not so tough in some respects :)
I chose to plunk down $ for a WaterRower, a Xeno signature model. It was most important to me that the unit be nearly silent, and fit in with the inside decor of the house (else, eventually in garage --> not used). The C2 is built like a weight bench in a gym. It also is the standard indoor erg if you plan on rowing competitively, and has a more robust online support community and site. The WR has a sufficient site, and Xeno's site (and his classes, if you're in Newport Beach, CA), for me, provide more than enough workout stimulation and variety, plus great personal feedback. I'm not immune to the competitive bug, but that was a treadmill I've thankfully moved beyond -- CV fitness was why I came back to rowing, not race prep or international ranking.
If those are likely to be important to you, you may want to look more at the C2.
Iron Oarsman
Peter Kim
Roz Savage did similarly, for her solo transatlantic voyage prep: http://rozsavage.com/adventure/ocean-rowing-faqs/training-and-preparation/.
The WR endorsements page is here: http://www.waterrower.co.uk/en/endorsements_rowers.htm.
Plenty of prominent folk use this sucker.
Best,
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Peter Kim
Hard to go wrong with either -- they'll both allow you to fully focus on your rowing.
Joshua Welch
While I might appreciate the support community of the C2, I don't plan
on competing at all, or getting too much into that side of it. Would
just be sitting in and improving my health. I tried a Fluid Rower at
the gym today, and appreciated the feel. It's been years since I've
been on a C2. I will have to find a gym that has one, and see how I
like it in comparison. I am saving up incrementally to afford
whichever I get, so hopefully by December I'll be there.
On Feb 23, 1:55 pm, Iron Oarsman <xenogo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Peter!
> You hit the nail on the head.
> I break a good sweat on both machines. I find that WR is more
> comfortable to sit on. I like the wide grip handle on the signature
> rower. With WR you also have the possibility to do standing exercises
> which adds to training variety.
> One more point: the signature rower comes with a row2go membership.
> Ok that is my two cents worth!
>
> Xeno Muller
> Olympic gold & silver medalistwww.row2go.us
> 949-400-7630 cell
> 949-273-2500 Skype
> Sent from my iPhone
>
Iron Oarsman
At the end you have option to buy.
Xeno Muller
Olympic gold & silver medalist
www.row2go.us
949-400-7630 cell
949-273-2500 Skype
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Joshua Welch
home. Think I'll head over and see if I can take a look at one in
person. I am interested to see if I enjoy a Waterrower as much as the
Fluid Rower I rowed on today. I do seem to appreciate the water
resistance over the air resistance.
On Feb 23, 8:31 pm, Iron Oarsman <xenogo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Lease from Waterrower.com
> At the end you have option to buy.
>
> Xeno Muller
> Olympic gold & silver medalistwww.row2go.us
> 949-400-7630 cell
> 949-273-2500 Skype
> Sent from my iPhone
>
ajbrenni...@cs.com
rowjohnnyrow
I have a concept2 model C, it's indestructable and lasts a lifetime.
And if I do need a replacement part, I can order it and I'll receive
it 2 days later.
The heartrate monitor function is available as addon, I use the basic
T31 polar transmitter
It's very basic, no frills. It show up on the concept2 monitor.
What I've found really motivating is using RowPro, a concept2 specific
rowing application. You can row with others, online or offline.
The concept2 doesn't depreciate in value very much. There's a big
demand for concept2 rowers
here on marktplaats.nl, a dutch Ebay type website.
There's stuff out there to pimp your C2, like the CBreeze and the iErg
Keep in mind I've never rowed on a watterrower, so I can't compare the
two.
regards,
Johan
On Feb 24, 9:22 am, ajbrenninkmei...@cs.com wrote:
> I learned to row in a boat and on a C2 Model B. At home I had a Model A for a while that I really likedhttp://www.concept2.com/us/support/manuals/pdf/A_PartsOrderForm.pdf, but I row now in the gym with a Waterrower and it is more fun. The sound is great and I love the feeling of the water.
> Xeno, is it possible to order the wider handle of the Xeno Muller Waterrower by itself if you (or your gym) already has a Waterrower ?
> Ansgar
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joshua Welch <welchjos...@gmail.com>
> To: Row2go <xenom...@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Wed, Feb 24, 2010 3:27 am
> Subject: Re: Anxious to get a rowing machine for home use
>
> Thanks for the feedback everyone! This would be purely for exercise.While I might appreciate the support community of the C2, I don't planon competing at all, or getting too much into that side of it. Wouldjust be sitting in and improving my health. I tried a Fluid Rower atthe gym today, and appreciated the feel. It's been years since I'vebeen on a C2. I will have to find a gym that has one, and see how Ilike it in comparison. I am saving up incrementally to affordwhichever I get, so hopefully by December I'll be there.On Feb 23, 1:55 pm, Iron Oarsman <xenogo...@gmail.com> wrote:> Peter!> You hit the nail on the head.> I break a good sweat on both machines. I find that WR is more > comfortable to sit on. I like the wide grip handle on the signature > rower. With WR you also have the possibility to do standing exercises > which adds to training variety.> One more point: the signature rower comes with a row2go membership.> Ok that is my two cents worth!>> Xeno Muller> Olympic gold & silver medalistwww.row2go.us> 949-400-7630 cell> 949-273-2500 Skype> Sent from my iPhone>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 11:47 AM, Peter Kim <doccott...@gmail.com> wrote:>> > There's a really nice summary comparing the 2, here: Concept2 versus > > WaterRower — James Stroud's Pages>> > It's a tough call, but you will be getting an great machine, either > > way. So not so tough in some respects :)>> > I chose to plunk down $ for a WaterRower, a Xeno signature model. It > > was most important to me that the unit be nearly silent, and fit in > > with the inside decor of the house (else, eventually in garage --> > > not used). The C2 is built like a weight bench in a gym. It also is > > the standard indoor erg if you plan on rowing competitively, and has > > a more robust online support community and site. The WR has a > > sufficient site, and Xeno's site (and his classes, if you're in > > Newport Beach, CA), for me, provide more than enough workout > > stimulation and variety, plus great personal feedback. I'm not > > immune to the competitive bug, but that was a treadmill I've > > thankfully moved beyond -- CV fitness was why I came back to rowing, > > not race prep or international ranking.>> > If those are likely to be important to you, you may want to look > > more at the C2.>> > On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 11:18 AM, Joshua Welch > > <welchjos...@gmail.com> wrote:> > Trying to decide between a Concept 2, and a Waterrower. I thoroughly> > enjoy the workout rowing provide.
Iron Oarsman
rowjohnnyrow
On Feb 24, 10:15 am, rowjohnnyrow <johan.ho...@gmail.com> wrote:
> There's stuff out there to pimp your C2, like the CBreeze and the iErg
forgot to mention the Core Perform CP2 and the Shox-Box.
Joshua Welch
is the normal one? How much lower are the footrests than the normal
one, and why is that important?
On Feb 24, 8:20 am, Iron Oarsman <xenogo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello Ansgar
> You can email Jill, J...@waterrower.com, she will be able to tell you.
> The wide handle is a necessity.
>
> Xeno Muller
> Olympic gold & silver medalistwww.row2go.us
> 949-400-7630 cell
> 949-273-2500 Skype
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 24, 2010, at 12:22 AM, ajbrenninkmei...@cs.com wrote:
>
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> > I learned to row in a boat and on a C2 Model B. At home I had a
> > Model A for a while that I really likedhttp://www.concept2.com/us/support/manuals/pdf/A_PartsOrderForm.pdf
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Bearcat
a C2 briefly. I love the sound of my waterrower. I like the catch
better on the waterrower than the C2. I have some problems with the
rowing position (mine is a standard model 3). the handle is too narrow
and the foot position is a little high, the result being that my arms
are always rubbing on the outsides of my knees (I have thick thighs
that make it hard to keep my knees tight together). Mine has the old
S3 monitor and it sucks. I hope the S4's are better and more
accurate. The ability to store it on end is a big consideration for
me. I don't have room for a C2 upstairs and I don't want to row in
the basement.
Basically, I really hate using an erg and I only do it to keep in
shape until the ice on the lake melts and I can get back out on the
beautiful water. The waterrower seems less offensive to me than the
C2.
XENO
That is a very similar description of how I perceive rowing on each
machine. After my first few rows on the Waterrower I said to Peter
King, owner of WR, that if WR wants C2 people to "cross over" they
must lower the foot board mechanism and widen the handle. Both have
been done on the Xeno Muller Signature Waterrower. The WR is prettier
and for some the quiet sound of the water resistance is a major part
in the choosing process between C2 and WR. I would not be surprised
if C2 will come out with a windwheel housing that is parallel to the
ground to make storage more effcient. Anywho, I am hitting the bed
now. But before I go, I need to tell you how happy I am to have added
two premium content videos to Row2go. One is a presentation of
Olympic anecdotes and the other is the slow motion study of my
sculling stroke which were filmed days before the Sydney Olympics.
OK over and out and row far.
Xeno
Bearcat
I spoke to Waterrower today and they said the parts to upgrade my
Model III to a Xeno-style lowered footboard and wider handle would be
$110 plus shipping. Not too bad. The handle ($35) includes a new
strap too, and the footboard ($75) includes the new wood piece along
with all new footrests and release mechanism. I'll probably do that
next winter when I am once again forced off the water. It looks like
my lake will thaw this week! Yay!!!!
Rambouilleting Utahn
results. I'm 6' 1" with very long legs and I can row in much more
comfort, especially the wider handle which seems to open up my chest.
Jill at WR was a pleasure to work with and the installation was pretty
straightforward.
One word of advice to anyone doing this. When you replace the
footboard the screw holes will not line up correctly with the WR down
on the floor. The rails sag and they appear of by about a 1/4 inch.
I had just about given up and assumed that my new board was misdrilled
until I placed it in the upright position and they slid right into
place. If I had known that beforehand the conversion would take about
20 minutes.
Xeno Muller
Olympic gold & silver medalist
www.row2go.us
949-400-7630
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Xeno Muller won an Olympic Gold in Atlanta and an Olympic Silver in Sydney, and is the current Olympic Record holder in the 2000m Single Scull. He is also the President and founder of Row2Go which is quickly becoming THE online community for both indoor and on-the-water rowers providing its members with weekly online workout routines and individualized coaching programs.