Summer Solstice Gathering: June 19, 7 PM, Pauling House (SE Hawthorne across from 3rd Eye)

[kirby urner]

Don Wardwell pinged me yesterday that Friday June 19th looks like our next Wanderers gathering.

The rule we follow: the Friday on or before the Equinox or Solstice.

Given June 21 is the official solstice, the 19th, 7 pm, Linus Pauling House, would be the time/space coordinates.

I texted back to Don, in so many words, that his logic was impeccable.

Since I regard it as my one official function vs-a-vis Wanderers, to announce these gatherings, I am hereby publishing a first such reminder.

Kirby

Asylum District

Portland (still weird)

[Lynne Taylor]

It is also Juneteenth. 

Lynne M. Taylor
Laurelwood Art

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[kirby urner]

Just a reminder:

One week from today:  gathering / potluck 19th 7 pm Pauling House

No need to rsvp it just happens

[Lynne Taylor]

Hate to say, but I injured my right foot and am limping around even more than usual. Not sure if driving all that way is going to be doable. Nor getting up the stairs. Wondering if you are going to have a zoom thing going on. So I can at least say hi. 

PS Reminder if you haven't seen my Art about Science show yet, it will be coming down June 30th. Thanks to those who made it out. Still more time for those who haven't. Let me know if you want me to hobble over and meet you there. 

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[Cameron Boehmer]

I have an old friend visiting town and won't make it on Friday, which is a bummer because I have been looking forward to blabbing about my recent research into the mechanism behind rouleaux formations (red blood cell clumping)! I'll share a quick blurb here.

My blood before and after ten minutes of grounding (touching grass)

Rouleaux (clumps) are bad because they reduce erythrocyte efficiency in nutrient delivery and waste removal, and when they get large enough, they stop individual cells from entering capillaries altogether—and capillaries constitute 95% of the circulatory system...

But hematology is at a bit of a loss regarding the mechanism behind rouleaux—bridging and macromolecule exclusion theories are both acknowledged to be at least partially unsatisfied by the evidence, and even mildly contradictory.

It looks to me like Gerald Pollack's theory of structured water offers a better explanation, so I lured some kind souls into a sauna in Mexico City and did live blood analysis to see if the infrared heat, which is known from Pollack's research to enhance the structure of water in vitro, might do the same in vivo and thus reduce rouleaux—by building up layers of negatively charged water around the cells themselves, allowing frictionless cell-to-cell contact and repelling positively charged macromolecules that would otherwise glue them together. And it is entirely possible that that is exactly what happened! All five participants showed reductions in rouleaux.

You can read the slightly more thorough write-up here: https://thespacebetween.xyz/p/sangre-y-sauna/, or the slightly more accessible blog post here: https://thespacebetweenx.substack.com/p/blood-and-the-specter-of-structured. 

If you would like to discuss, critique, challenge, inquire, or congratulate me, please feel free! I was just awarded a $3000 microgrant by a small philanthropic group to continue the research, and would cherish any and all input from the sharp minds on this list. I am a software engineer by trade and training, but have my sights set on citizen science, so your conversation would be invaluable. 

Thanks for reading and see you next time,

Cameron

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[kirby urner]

I'm gonna propose we talk seriously about coming online through Meetup or in some way that allows for greater participation without the Pauling House dependency. We haven't had any Zoomers join us in recent gatherings. Gatherings on the hybrid model were a good idea, worth trying. Anyone is welcome to support that model. I've given up on it myself.

Kirby

[David DiNucci]

HYBRID ZOOM observations.

Based on my experience using Zoom for hybrid meetings every Sunday, and observing the Wanderers' attempts so far to use it for a few of these LPH quarterly potlucks, my impression is...

There are two ways to make the interactions work out. Both of them make use of a fairly large screen, laptop, and wide-area mic (all of which I can probably provide with enough lead time). But one of the ways is NOT to just open a Zoom window in a room full of people engaged in conversation and figure that some of them can just dynamically interact with the window if they like. This causes an uncomfortable division in the discussion in the room, with many people maybe not even seeing or hearing (or caring?) what the zoom-interactors are even talking about. Instead, the two ways are:

1. Have a (semi-)separate physical area (such as in a side room or porch), with the understanding that this area is for a single-topic discussion of all people in that area (physically or over Zoom), and those people can interact dynamically much as they would if all physically together. If people don't want to be involved in that discussion, they leave the area. In its simplest form, the discussion can simply be a "how are you doing".

2. Go ahead and set up the screen and mic in a/the "main room", but don't expect easy dynamic interaction between the screen and the physical people present. Instead, either consider the Zoomers as observers only, or provide a more formal protocol for "having the floor", which usually means having a facilitator/emcee monitoring for requests for attention (which for Zoomers may be electronic hand-raises or entering their name in chat), with the faciitator/MC explicitly "passing the baton" from one to the next.

I don't think that #2 would work well for these potlucks. #1 might, and I guess we've done something like it in the past out on the porch.

  -Dave

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[kirby urner]

I don't think that #2 would work well for these potlucks. #1 might, and I guess we've done something like it in the past out on the porch.

  -Dave

Thanks for sharing the benefit of your extensive experience Dave.

Given how rarely we meet at LPH and given ISEPP does not have WiFi there anymore (I've gone off my Verizon hotspot) I think our better long term solution is to explore another mode whereby we meet and have presentations online. 

If there's a physical meetup space involved, and they certainly could be, it'd be somewhere other than LPH. A physical meeting space was suggested to me at Lynne's art opening by a couple of guys who'd be interested in seeing that happening. That seemed like a good lead.

However it's easy to setup something on Meetup for virtual meetups without waiting for a solution to the physical space puzzle.

My backyard has served as a physical meetup space in the past, where we hooked up with another meetup group in Philadelphia.  Many things could be tried. But not necessarily by me. I'm leaving the iPad and dog home tonight to simplify logistics. Just the lentils this time, and I might take a few pix.

Kirby

[Lynne Taylor]

Bummed I couldn't make it. What little I did today, and my foot is pretty mad at me. 

But my show is up thru the 29th if any of you want to see or revisit. Happy to meet you there!  Let me know. 

Lynne M. Taylor
Laurelwood Art

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[kirby urner]

Yeah sorry you couldn't make it Lynne, I know it's a long drive each way for you.

The gathering just finished and was well attended.  

Lots of fun conversations, many of which I only overheard.  

We even had a visiting fish fossil from the Eocene (50-52 million years ago).

We're a pretty interesting group if I do say so myself.

I hope we manage to keep our Wanderers alive in some way shape or form.

See y'all on Friday September 18 for the Fall Equinox potluck.

That's following our rule of "the Friday on or before" -- the official Equinox is Sept 22, the following Tuesday.

Kirby

[Lynne Taylor]

Did you happen to take pictures of the fossil?

It is a good group. I hate to miss things. Why I've been hoping someone would find a wormhole from my house to the Linus Pauling house for years. 😵‍💫

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[kirby urner]

On Fri, Jun 19, 2026 at 10:10 PM Lynne Taylor <ly...@laurelwoodart.com> wrote:

Did you happen to take pictures of the fossil?