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abigail weinberg
Dec 20, 2012, 11:20:14 AM12/20/12
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Dear Ann,
I hope you are having a fun holiday season! I had a lovely Hanukah and now I get to enjoy the Christmas-New Years season as well! Life is good!
I realize that you may be
taking a well deserved break from work these days - but, in case you are not in total hibernation, the WVC Liaison group was hoping you could meet with us (over the phone) next week at one of the following times:
- Thursday 12/27 - between 12:30 and 5 pm
- Monday 12/31 - between 9 and 5 pm
So much is happening now with Andrew and a few other developers with whom we are connecting to various degrees, that we really want to get your perspective and evaluate where CC-WVC relationship is headed.
Of course, if these dates don't work, we can try for the week of Jan 6-10. [I will be in LA that week with family, but we could potentially pull off a conference call. (Amazingly!)]
Merry, Happy, etc!
Abby
Ann Zabaldo
Dec 22, 2012, 1:22:53 PM12/22/12
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Hi Abby and all -- Thursday, 12/27 at 3:30 will work for me.
Do you have some specific questions I could spend time now considering?
Let me know!
P.S. Jack will not be on the call w/ us. Any questions I can't answer ... I relay to Jack and we'll get back to you.
Talk to you soon!
Happy Holidays!
Best --
Ann Zabaldo
Takoma Village Cohousing
Washington, DC
Principal, Cohousing Collaborative, LLC
Falls Church VA
abigail weinberg
Dec 24, 2012, 10:58:48 PM12/24/12
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Dear Ann,
I hope you enjoying Christmas in
exactly the right way for you and that your celebration is inspiring, fun and
rejuvenating!
I’m glad we will be able to talk on
Thursday at 3:30 pm. Hopefully,
most of us in Philly will gather in one place to make the communication
easier. Before the call, I wanted
to take a moment to update you on where the group is right now and where we
think you could help us.
At the moment, WVC has four
site-selection options that are summarized below. (The attached chart was an effort to compare the various
options based on our most important values/criteria assuming all could be made
compatible with cohousing principles.)
- “Original” Iron Stone Property: Since the call with Andrew, the general feeling is we will not be bale to build cohousing on this property. We intend to ask him one last time whether he might be open to creating a development with a fee simple & rental components (not condo) but we are doubtful that he could develop something that we could afford. We are preparing to let this one go (boo hoo!)
- Adaptive Reuse of Property: Many of us are still interested in the option of renovating an existing building into cohouisng, possibly in conjunction with Iron Stone. We are in the process of getting a list of properties from Andrew and seeing where that may lead. WVC members are hopeful that this will be the most affordable option, but worried about the problem of what to do with tenants already occupying a building we want to take over. We need to discuss this with Andrew and others.
- Working with Onion Flats or other "Green Builders" to purchase land and build to our specifications. While Onion Flats did re-contact us recently, they have not responded to our Pitch Package in over 2 weeks and seem unreliable as partners.
- Carpenter Lane Apartments: Since our meeting with Andrew, another property has come to our attention. The developer’s name is Scott Siebert (http://bancroftgreen.com/) and we met with him last week to discuss how his project might be conducive to cohousing. It was a very preliminary conversation with him asking more questions than we did!
- Pros of this project include: We like the developer (neighborhood guy with good values); he is very committed to sustainable & quality building; excellent location (almost as good as/maybe better that Iron Stone property, across the street from food coop;) developer is open to discussing a variety of financial relationships with us (coop, long-term leases, condo;) he is open to giving us common space in a variety of way; he talked a lot about WVC “growing into the building…”
- Cons: They are “high end builders” and the prices mentioned so far were insanely high; we would only have part of the building, at least for the first 5-10 years …
Given all of this, here are some of
the top questions we would like to discuss with YOU:
1. What does WVC need to know in order to move forward with
these various conversations? What
sort(s) of self-education process(es) must we undergo? Do you have suggestions for how to
discern what we need to learn and how to learn it?
2. What does it look like to work with a developer to adapt an
existing building and how do we prepare for that? What are the various
implications, pros/cons we need to consider?
3. Can cohousing be done as rentals? As coops? What has been
done in the past? What are the pros/cons we need to consider? How do we/can we
have control without ownership?
4. How does the fact that we may NOT be heading toward an MOU
with Iron Stone affect WVC’s
agreement with CC?
Finally, to further help you
understand where the group is, attached are:
o
Minutes from last meeting
where we discussed the four options above and members had a brief chance to
give feedback/reactions
o
Chart comparing the options
and noting some suggested next steps and issues
o
My notes from our meeting with
Andrew (which I sent you before, but am not sure you received since I didn’t
hear from you about them.)
We really look forward to speaking
on Thursday! Please be in touch
beforehand if you have questions or concerns.
Peace!
Abby
Abby
From: Ann Zabaldo <zab...@earthlink.net>
To: abigail weinberg <withh...@yahoo.com>
Cc: "wvc-work...@googlegroups.com" <wvc-work...@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2012 1:22 PM
Subject: Re: Setting up phone call
Ann Zabaldo
Dec 25, 2012, 2:14:38 AM12/25/12
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Hi Abby and all --
Two a.m. Santa hasn't made an appearance. I think the key is to go to bed ... :-)
I'll digest all that you wrote and be prepared to talk w/ you on Thursday.
We're having Xmas dinner here at 4 p.m. today. I'm organizing it. About 30 people are signed up. This is half of last year so it's been a lot easier this time around. After dinner, we kick off Million Movie Marathon Madness -- a week of cramming in as many movies as possible through New Year's Day. We've been doing this since the first year we were together just beginning our cohousing journey in 1998. A tradition that begins it's 14th year. Traditions are really important in community life.
Talk to you on Thursday!
Best --
Ann Zabaldo
Takoma Village Cohousing
Washington, DC
Principal, Cohousing Collaborative, LLC
Falls Church VA
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<WVC_Minutes_12-23-2012_draft.doc><SITE OPTIONS 20121223.xls.pdf><12'13'12 Meeting with Andrew Eisenstein.doc>
Ann Zabaldo
Dec 25, 2012, 2:22:01 AM12/25/12
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Abby --
How many people will be on the call on Thursday?
Best --
Ann Zabaldo
Takoma Village Cohousing
Washington, DC
Principal, Cohousing Collaborative, LLC
Falls Church VA
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abigail weinberg
Dec 25, 2012, 11:52:47 AM12/25/12
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Christmas in Cohousing sounds dreamy - and the movie marathon is right up my alley!
I believe the following people will be on the call:
Me, Pesha, Vanessa, Bob, Melissa (slightly iffy due to travel plans) and possibly Janet. Basically, 4 - 6 people will be in the call with you.
We have agreed that one of us (me or Vanessa) will facilitate and do most of the talking from our end. We will make sure to leave space for others to chime in, but are hoping we will stay focused on the topics I sent you (below).
Looking forward! Have a MERRY, HAPPY, FUN day!
Abby
From: Ann Zabaldo <zab...@earthlink.net>
To: abigail weinberg <withh...@yahoo.com>
Cc: "wvc-work...@googlegroups.com" <wvc-work...@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2012 2:14 AM
Subject: Re: Pre-Meeting Update & Questions
JANET E BOYS
Dec 26, 2012, 9:15:42 AM12/26/12
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