Winnie the Pooh drawing Original - $1 million. Takers?
taylerm
Since some of Winnipeg art collection and multi millionaire elite are caught
up in this dumb craze to buy all things Winnie related...let me take a wack
at it.
I just doodled an original Winnie Pooh picture.
Its a very Winnipeg picture.
It shows Winnie drinking a slurpie as walks down Portage being panhandled
for his honey.
Starting bids at Southeby should be $100,000
Asper, Heartly, Lock... I'll throw in a free Burger King Whopper coupon
with every purchase.
**
What a stupid thing to pay $250,000 for a picture and try to convince
Winnipeggers that we really need this thing to feel important. Take 10 % of
that and commission a huge statue or wall mural or Winnie if thats what you
want.
A gaggle of Winnipegs wealthiest investors get together to convince the
commoners that we should help them to stock their private art gallery at the
Assiniboine Park pavillion.
The average person can't go in that Pavillion now. A security guard at the
door, lunch for $30, signs saying no shorts and no bikes on the platform.
Its a great way to set up a private place for weddings and dinner functions
within a public park for those with the coin.
Sure we appreciate the Lyric theatre....but its also one way to make a
public park more of a private playground.
Peter D
investment. There's only one in the world (the Pooh Corner Tea-room
painting) and rarity creates value. Did you know that for Disney ,
"Winnie" acocutns for 8 times the world spending than Mickey does? Yup,
Winnie is the most popular character in the Disney stable by a very long
shot.
Anyway, as long as the private interests wanna spend their money, more
power to them. Why should you care what they do with their money? It is
theirs after all. Sounds a bit sour-grapish to me.
HTH
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Peter D
taylerm wrote in message ...
taylerm
Peter D wrote in message ...
>Haven't heard what it went for, but given world interest it's not a bad
>investment. There's only one in the world (the Pooh Corner Tea-room
>painting) and rarity creates value. Did you know that for Disney ,
>"Winnie" acocutns for 8 times the world spending than Mickey does? Yup,
>Winnie is the most popular character in the Disney stable by a very long
>power to them. Why should you care what they do with their money? It is
>theirs after all. Sounds a bit sour-grapish to me.
>
re: Poo Painting for $300k ($50k+ from govt)
Okay here are the two issues.
1. over $50,000 of tax money was apparently put in (Sheila Cops fund $40k +
City)
2. taking over of public spaces by private monied investors (Park
Pavillion)
Now, I am not even concerned about the government money put in, and as you
say if its private money going into a private project than they can do what
they want.
My biggest beef is what they did with the Assiinboine Park Pavillion, and
the fact that this peice of art will now go in there now as well.
The Pavillion was once open to everbody and kids and sweaty bike riders
could waddle in there, use the washroom and buy a hotdog or an icecream.
They could have remodelled it and still had a family oriented hotdog or ice
cream place inside...but no, they went upscale in a family oriented park.
Now, a few of the monied elite like the Richardsons and Aspers turned the
place into a hi-scale restaurant and gallery.
I looked inside and walked in briefly (summer) and there is a security
guard there, a sign on the door cautioning you about the use of the place,
signs saying to keep all bicycles off the sidewalk in front, and a backyard
patio with fine linens on the tables and Symphony music gently playing.
You can't go there for an ice cream, you can't take your kids in for a fast
washroom break.
It has become a very intimidating place where the common Winnipegger/riffraf
f is encouraged to go elsewhere.
I couldn't even find an icecream vendor that day in August except on Portage
Ave!
Its almost as if Asper and Richardson realized that this is the nicest park
in the city and would be a perfect place for afternoon teas, or the odd
wedding or when they needed to book it.
So now, hell...just make the reservation like anyone else can with the
coin...and pop over for tea and scones....just make sure the dirty children
and the lowly common Winnipegger stays on the grass or watches a show at the
Lyric outside.
I really found it almost nausteating to hear the James bond'like art dealer,
Lock getting all giddy' about flying out to buy a painting at Sothebys for
$300k and saying that we really "must have it at any price".
Sure, pay for it all yourself and knock yourself out.
But not only did it take over $50k of tax money, but he is bragging about
how proud he is that children came running up to him with their piggybanks
to put money in.
Sounds a little like the Save the Jets fiasco.
He actually thinks that kids will be impressed to see a small picture in the
gallery (if they can even get in there before they change clothes, wash
their hair and pass the security guard).
Kids are impressed by huge, colorful, flashy objects.
Art critics, and the social elite are the ones who will be impressed more by
the painting of the Pavillion as it sits now.
**
Again, I love the idea of hyping Winnie as the city mascot...but I don't
think buying that picture and putting it inside that upscale elitist
restaurant/gallery is the way to go.
Go nuts with Winnie...hire someone for $10k to build a 30 foot Winnie
statue, paint a wall mural or hire 100 politicians to jump around once a
year in bear suits.
So thats my story...and I'm stickin' to it.
taylerm
JJ wrote in message ...
>"taylerm" <tay...@hotmaiil.com> wrote in message
> >> My biggest beef is what they did with the Assiinboine Park Pavillion,
and
>> the fact that this peice of art will now go in there now as well.
>
> >> The Pavillion was once open to everbody and kids and sweaty bike riders
>> could waddle in there, use the washroom and buy a hotdog or an icecream.
>
> >> Go nuts with Winnie...hire someone for $10k to build a 30 foot Winnie
>> statue, paint a wall mural or hire 100 politicians to jump around once a
>> year in bear suits.
>
Sorry Spuds'....a government paid Park and the buldings within are public
places for all to gather....the poor and the rich.
A restaurant in that same public park with $40 brunches is not for the poor
and the rich alike.
If you want a highend restraurant/wedding-barmitzva location... put it
outside the public park.
Even those with big money can't just waddle in there now in sweaty exercise
gear for a quick ice cream.
That building was once a big focal point of the park for meeting for
icecream and hotdogs.
Now...its en elitist restaurant and art gallery used by many thousands
fewer.
The old place just needed new management and some private funding to
re-establish it as a nice place with AFFORDABLE snacks for all.
Even the FORKS...got rid of that nice little warmup shelter and put the
Muddy Waters restaurant in there.
There are fewer and fewer affordable places to take a few kids for an
icecream/hot chocolate.
Even the Childrens Museum is not for all kids.
Its more of a place for the affluent, the well connected and the middle
class families.
The poor families of the north end, west end etc...often either can't make
it there, or feel intimated by the largesse of it all.
So these places built for the "children" are really places built for certain
children.
how many kids from poorer families do you really think go to the Childrens
Museum or the Childrens Theatre...unless they go as part of a school
function.
For many/most others, these places are stepping stones into other
things...for many its a stepping stone into community acting or tv/video
acting/performing.
Check the names on the donors lists of those places...the same few
dozen/hundreds of wealthy families.
Progress is great, but put more of the private monies into either private
faciliities outside the public spaces or if they are in the public spaces,
make sure they are places that all can enjoy.
Francois
spent $3,000,000.00 of your tax dollars on a red stripe!
$285,000.00 of which around 100K is "public" tax money from all levels of
Gov.. seems like a bargain:-)
At least this thing looks like a bear LOLOLOL
Francois
"taylerm" <tay...@hotmaiil.com> wrote in message
news:OAVQ5.20277$dU2.2...@news1.rdc1.mb.home.com...
>
> Peter D wrote in message ...
> >Haven't heard what it went for, but given world interest it's not a bad
> >investment. There's only one in the world (the Pooh Corner Tea-room
> >painting) and rarity creates value. Did you know that for Disney ,
> >"Winnie" acocutns for 8 times the world spending than Mickey does? Yup,
> >Winnie is the most popular character in the Disney stable by a very long
> > >Anyway, as long as the private interests wanna spend their money, more
> >power to them. Why should you care what they do with their money? It is
> >theirs after all. Sounds a bit sour-grapish to me.
> >
>
> re: Poo Painting for $300k ($50k+ from govt)
>
> Okay here are the two issues.
>
> 1. over $50,000 of tax money was apparently put in (Sheila Cops fund $40k
+
> City)
> 2. taking over of public spaces by private monied investors (Park
> Pavillion)
>
> Now, I am not even concerned about the government money put in, and as you
> say if its private money going into a private project than they can do
what
> they want.
>
> My biggest beef is what they did with the Assiinboine Park Pavillion, and
> the fact that this peice of art will now go in there now as well.
>
> The Pavillion was once open to everbody and kids and sweaty bike riders
> could waddle in there, use the washroom and buy a hotdog or an icecream.
>
> Art critics, and the social elite are the ones who will be impressed more
by
> the painting of the Pavillion as it sits now.
>
>
> **
>
>
> Again, I love the idea of hyping Winnie as the city mascot...but I don't
> think buying that picture and putting it inside that upscale elitist
> restaurant/gallery is the way to go.
>
> Go nuts with Winnie...hire someone for $10k to build a 30 foot Winnie
> statue, paint a wall mural or hire 100 politicians to jump around once a
> year in bear suits.
>
Peter D
and the fact that this peice of art will now go in there now as well.
>It has become a very intimidating place where the common
Speak for yourself! <vbg>
>I couldn't even find an icecream vendor that day in August except on
Portage Ave!
Ain't life a bitch! <abg>
>He actually thinks that kids will be impressed to see a small picture
in the gallery (if they can even get in there before they change
clothes, wash their hair and pass the security guard).
My kids can't wait (me too!).
>Kids are impressed by huge, colorful, flashy objects.
You don't have kids, do you? Or if you do, you haven't had them for a
whole long time.
Hint: kids change, grow up, mature, change interests.
HTH
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Peter D
Peter D
dozen/hundreds of wealthy families.
Gasp! Shock! Horror! Gasp! Rich folk giving away their money to benefit
the community in which they live!
BASTARDS!!!!! They should be ashamed of themselves. They really should.
Thanks for pointing out their dastardly plot. I mean, before this I used
to always think such gestures were 'nice'. Now I know that they are evil
personified and they almost foooled us.
Well, I know I feel better now. How about you?
HTH
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Peter D
she...@my-deja.com
> >He actually thinks that kids will be impressed to see a small picture
> in the gallery (if they can even get in there before they change
> clothes, wash their hair and pass the security guard).
It's over three feet high and looks to be about 1 1/2 feet wide. Not
exactly small.
> My kids can't wait (me too!).
I'll have to see it when I'm in town.
Sheila
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Before you buy.
she...@my-deja.com
she...@my-deja.com wrote:
[snip]
> It's over three feet high and looks to be about 1 1/2 feet wide. Not
> exactly small.
And while I'm busy correcting things, it's an oil painting, not a
drawing.
taylerm
she...@my-deja.com wrote in message <8v2je1$rto$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>...
>In article <8v2hvs$qon$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
> she...@my-deja.com wrote:
>> It's over three feet high and looks to be about 1 1/2 feet wide. Not
>> exactly small.
>And while I'm busy correcting things, it's an oil painting, not a
>drawing.
>Sheila
re: 3 and half feet tall..1 and half feet wide
No actually I think Norm is a little bigger than that...4 feet in platform
shoes and a bit wider with the elbow patches on the tweed jacket.
**
Seriously though....kids like bright colors, flashy big things.
And these days...I REALLY can't imagine many kids being excited about a
slow moving dopey pot bellied bear.
North American Kids today have grown up with spinning, flashing, exciting
Internet webpages, MTV shows, animated 3d games and characters like
Pochahontas etc etc.
Sure everyone might rush to see that bear picture the first week.
But after that..the Pavillion will tighten up security like before and few
people will feel like going near that place unless the kids are all dressed
up, and the parents have about $200 to buy lunch for the 4 of them.
Eventually the painting will go into some type of Winnie Park museum I
suppose which would be fine.
My fear is that our art collected elite don't feel that its now open season
on tax payers where they will have the government convinced that we want
them to go on more Winnie art collecting sprees and put it on our tab, so
that few can go see it.
I don't need to see Lock go out with the tax payers wallet and joyfully fill
up on items like $5,000 Winnie Pez dispensers, $2,000 Winnie Pooh Cake, or
$50,000 Winnie Pooh crocheted mittens and Pooh Pie!!
Bah....Christmas ....why are all the Pooh people....singing Pooh ba and
Pee...it came with ribbons...it came without bows.....those People of
PoohVille in Pooh costumes from head to there toes!!
signed...the Grinch who stole the Pooh out of Winnie
Peter D
>
>And these days...I REALLY can't imagine many kids being excited about
a slow moving dopey pot bellied bear.
And yet that same bear is the 'sweetie' gift between teen girls.
Like I said, you either don't have kids or you don't watch them real
close.
Hint: repeating it often still doesn't make it true.
HTH
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Peter D
taylerm
Peter D wrote in message ...
No I don't have any kids.
I have also never seen any kids young girls/boys, teens or anyone with a
Winnie lunchbox, winnie clothing, winnie pez dispenser or winnie
anything...in Winnipeg in the hundreds of kids I've seen on the buses on the
street etc etc.
If theres a big run on Winnie items...they sure aren't walking around at
Polo Park, downtown and St james.
I don't see these toys being given out at the Mcdonalds and Bkings of this
city.
I did hear a lot for a few years about Beanie Babies, those stupid tv sex
deviant childlike aliens with penises and vaginas on their heads :).... and
pokemons and robo whatevethehellelsetherewas.
And if there was a lot of Disney sponsored Winnie crap being worn by these
kids...then THE PARENTS SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF THEMSELVES for being sucked
into the marketing machine, hook ..line...and stinker!
Tell me how big of a security guard will be standing near this $300,000
picture and how many slobbering, winy, kids will be allowed to get within a
few feet of it.
Its not for the kids...its for the art collectors and business elite of this
city to get a woody by knowing that they can buy art for their own personal
pleasure and con the commonfolk into throwing money into it. The commonfolk
who may see it once, and never make it back into the elitist Pavillion
restaurant.
Opus-
spake thusly:
>taylerm wrote in message ...
>>Seriously though....kids like bright colors, flashy big things.
>>
>>And these days...I REALLY can't imagine many kids being excited about
>a slow moving dopey pot bellied bear.
>
>And yet that same bear is the 'sweetie' gift between teen girls.
>Like I said, you either don't have kids or you don't watch them real
>close.
My daughter's favorite toys are a pink bear she calls "Pink Bear", a
purple bear she named "Purple Bear", a pink bunny known as "Pink
Bunny" and a gray bear known as [wait for it]...."Grey Bear"
That slow moving dopey pot bellied bear is what almost every kid on
the planet would call "cuddly"...and to a kid, cuddly is good.
--
jbu...@altavista.com
(Jim, single dad to Lesleigh [Autistic] 04/20/94)
**Roadkill on the information superhighway**
Please note: All unsolicited e-mail sent to me may, at
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Peter D
>Peter D wrote in message ...
>>taylerm wrote in message ...
>>>Seriously though....kids like bright colors, flashy big things.
>>>>And these days...I REALLY can't imagine many kids being excited
about
>>a slow moving dopey pot bellied bear.
>>
>>And yet that same bear is the 'sweetie' gift between teen girls.
>>Like I said, you either don't have kids or you don't watch them real
>>close.
>>Hint: repeating it often still doesn't make it true.
>
>No I don't have any kids.
>
>I have also never seen any kids young girls/boys, teens or anyone with
a
>Winnie lunchbox, winnie clothing, winnie pez dispenser or winnie
>anything...in Winnipeg in the hundreds of kids I've seen on the buses
on the
>street etc etc.
I'm informed by me resident expert that Winnie (and Tigger) are the
choice for special friend gifts, kinda along hte liens of friendship
bracelets, etc. Anywam Winnie is defintely 'cool' to these kids.
BTW, 10K on a 285K purchase is hardly gouging the public. BTW2, it's
possibl ewith all teh money raised that they 'll give the 10K back to
the city. So, if they gave it back, paid for it only with private money,
donated it to the people, AND paid for it to b ehoused there, would that
satisfy you?
Thanks. :-)
----------------
Peter D -- who has some nice Winnie stamps for sale/trade if anyone's
interested
Arthur D. Mira
>That slow moving dopey pot bellied bear is what almost every kid on
>the planet would call "cuddly"...and to a kid, cuddly is good.
Ya hear that gut!!!! There may be hope for us yet....
beergut
Yea!! I'm coming back into style........that's worth $285K!!
cheers
beergut
Sheila Paterson
wrote:
[snip]
>>>And yet that same bear is the 'sweetie' gift between teen girls.
>>>Like I said, you either don't have kids or you don't watch them real
>>>close.
>>>Hint: repeating it often still doesn't make it true.
And Don wrote:
>>No I don't have any kids.
>>
>>I have also never seen any kids young girls/boys, teens or anyone with
>.a Winnie lunchbox, winnie clothing, winnie pez dispenser or winnie
>>anything...in Winnipeg in the hundreds of kids I've seen on the buses
>on the street etc etc.
And then Peter:
>I'm informed by me resident expert that Winnie (and Tigger) are the
>choice for special friend gifts, kinda along hte liens of friendship
>bracelets, etc. Anywam Winnie is defintely 'cool' to these kids.
Of course, Winnie's cool. I'm over 40 and I have Winnie stuff as does
an over-40 friend.
If my niece is any example, oodles of little kids have Winnie stuff,
too.
Sheila Paterson
Note: address transmogrified.
taylerm
Opus- wrote in message ...
>>>Seriously though....kids like bright colors, flashy big things.
>>>And these days...I REALLY can't imagine many kids being excited about
>>a slow moving dopey pot bellied bear.
>purple bear she named "Purple Bear", a pink bunny known as "Pink
>Bunny" and a gray bear known as [wait for it]...."Grey Bear"
1. you mentioned that your daughter loves several colors of bears but did
not include a Winnie. I think most kids find Winnie...a boring color, dopey
and boring and just plain boring. There are more cuddly, better colored
bears
2. I believe the tax money paid for the painting was about $60,000. $10k
from the city perhaps, $40k from the Shiela Copps fund which we are always
upset when money comes from her for Porn movies and other ridiculous
things...like a beat painting
3. My main beef isn't with the money paid for it, but the fact that it is
more of a rich toy purchased to be enjoyed by the rich just like the
Pavillion which they took away from the average person and made into an
upscale restaurant that the average person can no longer go into to
enjoy....IN a public park, no less. Assiniboine Park.
4. Sure older people still can appreciate Winnie. I would say that most of
the fascination for the doll is the 35 year old plus crowd. We grew up with
Winnie cartoons etc. The kids of today grow up with faster, wilder, brighter
colored cartoons, MTV, Pokemans, tubby babies, beanie babies and every
single stupid Marketing toy that was ever create...pochahontas, dinosaurs,
etc etc.
**
Bottom line again, I don't want these business elite going out to buy more
public art for their private collections if they are going to be dinging the
taxpayer every time they want to go for a jaunt to Sothebys, or a Toronto
location to reach Southebys.
Put your private art collections in your own private galleries...and not in
an expensive restaurant located in the public park.
Izzy, we like your donations but don't go creating your own personal
playground within the park. The Lyric is free to all yes, but the Pavillion
is now a closed club...closed to those who are dressed up and can throw $20
at lunch instead of $2 for a hotdog for each of the dirty, sweaty kids.
There are very few places to drag your dirty, sweaty kids in snowsuits, or
shorts these days except for the McDonalds of this world.
Muddy Waters at the Forks took over the nice public warm up shelter with the
nice fireplace ...once used for storytelling etc.
gutz
wrote:
>
>Izzy, we like your donations but don't go creating your own personal
>playground within the park.
He hasn't. Donations are made for a variety of reasons, tax deductions
is one of the primary ones. What you don't say is that this picture
will only increase in value. Bottom line is it is a good investment.
> The Lyric is free to all yes, but the Pavillion
>is now a closed club...closed to those who are dressed up and can throw $20
>at lunch instead of $2 for a hotdog for each of the dirty, sweaty kids.
No it isn't. Geez Donnie, $20 for a nice sit down lunch with linen and
silverware is really quite reasonable. I find it nice to have choices.
I can have a nice leisurely lunch and pay for it, or I can go across
the road and have a $2 hot dog and smell flowers.
Choices, Don............what a conception.
beergut
Peter D
Oh, no. Now look what you and Sheila have started!!!
Now we're gonna have pot-bellied guys wandering around dressed as Winnie
as a preamble to getting some!
[no offence, beergut or don]
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Peter D
taylerm
gutz <1bee...@home.com> wrote in message
<3a16a6b9...@news.rdc1.bc.home.com>...
$20 for a lunch (each) when you're on a bike...or with sweaty kids is not
reasonable at all.
The park is a place where most people come to exercise..they ride in on a
bike, throw a frisbee while wearing shorts and a tshirt, or taking the kids
for a little walk or snow slide/skate.
Few people would come there in there lexus autos just to sit for lunch...but
they are now.
There are plenty of other private restaurants with nice scenery they could
go to...but this one was a bargain, and they could get full govt funding for
it and at the same time..it wouldnt be abused because only those with the
$20 for lunch would go in ...and get past the security guard.
Before you could pop in that nice showpiece of a building and get the $2
dog.
Sure the place needed work...but they could have fixed it up and retained
the openness of the place instead of creating this snobbish looking place
with the security guard etc.
Now, these private investors are trying to scoop up the best looking parts
of the park and put in these little enclaves for themselves and anyone else
who has a little extra coin.
I am all for free enterprise...but don't take over public spaces with places
that are overpriced for the average user.
Peter D
playing Father Christimas this year -- "But kids LOVE dayglo green teddy
bears! Honest!!"
Re the public fiunds issue:
The $10K was the City of Winnipeg contribution and it was the max, to be
payed out only if they were successful (i.e. not for expenses incurred).
The $40K was a 'promise' if they couldn't get all the funds from other
sources, or if they ran short of funds at the last minute.
Given that they have clearly stated they bought it "with lots ot spare",
the $40K would not be needed.
That leaves $10K of public money. FWIW, I think Winnipeg already got
$10K of advertising around the world. But I'd still like to see them
give it back, if only to stop your constant whining on about it.
HTH
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Peter D
taylerm wrote in message ...
>Opus- wrote in message ...
>>On Sat, 18 Nov 2000 02:08:44 GMT, "Peter D" <pdolman@!DEL!home.com>
>> >>taylerm wrote in message ...
>>>>Seriously though....kids like bright colors, flashy big things.
> >>>And these days...I REALLY can't imagine many kids being excited
about
>>>a slow moving dopey pot bellied bear.
> >>My daughter's favorite toys are a pink bear she calls "Pink Bear", a
>>purple bear she named "Purple Bear", a pink bunny known as "Pink
>>Bunny" and a gray bear known as [wait for it]...."Grey Bear"
>
>Izzy, we like your donations but don't go creating your own personal
>playground within the park. The Lyric is free to all yes, but the
Pavillion
>is now a closed club...closed to those who are dressed up and can throw
$20
>at lunch instead of $2 for a hotdog for each of the dirty, sweaty kids.
>
taylerm
Peter D wrote in message ...
>playing
>$10K of advertising around the world. But I'd still like to see them
>give it back, if only to stop your constant whining on about it.
>HTH
Like I said, its not about the money nearly as much as it is about taking
over public spaces with quasi private places.
The Pavillion is my main beef.
The fact that it was changed from a places accessbible and affordable to
all, to one which is more of a private restaurant.
The Picture is just another example of the private elite trying to fill
thier private places in public spaces, with art that few will actually
enjoy.
I don't want the precedent to be set where more art is bought with this same
strategy of trying to convince the average person that the art work is
something they will enjoy...because they won't.
After seeing the Pavillion once, or the artwork once....most people won't go
back unles they have the kids dressed up and have $20 each for lunch.
And in terms of the money...the money offered up front is almost like giving
a daytrader money to play with.
Its our money, its tax money..and if the money was needed, it would have
been used in full.
I don't want to take that chance on the next piece of fine art these elite
might decide would look good in their private restaurants.
Sure the $10k got a lot of publicity and yes thats a good thing.
If they got rid of the high end restaurant in the Pavillion and put back the
affordable family place with $3 hotdogs, I would be fine with that.
Also...by getting all this publicity before the auction, it probably drove
the bidding price of this picture from about $40,000 to the $300,000 because
the investors realized there were a bunch of local yokels in Winnipeg who
seemed to think that they NEEDED this thing, and didn't just want it.
We need heart surgeons...we need investment in the community... we don't
NEED a picture of a brown bear that Disney made famous.
Peter D
club...closed to those who are dressed up and can throw $20 at lunch
instead of $2 for a hotdog for each of the dirty, sweaty kids.
>>
silverware is really quite reasonable. I find it nice to have choices.
>>I can have a nice leisurely lunch and pay for it, or I can go across
the road and have a $2 hot dog and smell flowers.
>>
>>Choices, Don............what a conception.
>
>$20 for a lunch (each) when you're on a bike...or with sweaty kids is
not reasonable at all.
It's a choice thing, Don. If you want to eat a hotdog, you have a
choice. If you want to eat a nice lunch at a linen table in really nice
and fancy surrounding, you can. The only diff is how much you are
willing to spend and how comfortable you feel in the setting. I think
you feel more comfortable with the hotdog area, others with the room.
Works for me.
>The park is a place where most people come to exercise..they ride in on
a bike, throw a frisbee while wearing shorts and a tshirt, or taking the
kids for a little walk or snow slide/skate.
I wander around with the dog and chat with the kids. No sweat involved.
(what is this thing you have about sweating anyway?).
My philosophy is simple: No Pain... No Pain.
HTH
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Peter D
Peter D
it's the money. <vbg>
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Peter D
taylerm wrote in message ...
>
taylerm
Peter D wrote in message ...
>>>On Sat, 18 Nov 2000 13:14:29 GMT, "taylerm"
>>>> The Lyric is free to all yes, but the Pavillion is now a closed
>club...closed to those who are dressed up and can throw $20 at lunch
>instead of $2 for a hotdog for each of the dirty, sweaty kids.
>>>
>>>No it isn't. Geez Donnie, $20 for a nice sit down lunch with linen and
>It's a choice thing, Don. If you want to eat a hotdog, you have a
>choice. If you want to eat a nice lunch at a linen table in really nice
>and fancy surrounding, you can. The only diff is how much you are
>willing to spend and how comfortable you feel in the setting. I think
>you feel more comfortable with the hotdog area, others with the room.
>Works for me.
>
>>The park is a place where most people come to exercise..they ride in on
>a bike, throw a frisbee while wearing shorts and a tshirt, or taking the
>kids for a little walk or snow slide/skate.
>
>I wander around with the dog and chat with the kids. No sweat involved.
>(what is this thing you have about sweating anyway?).
re (buying of the Winnie Painting for Winnipeg for $250,000 and my objection
that it will go into the Park Pavillion which used to be for families but
was turned into an upscale restaurant...now with art like this $40,0000 from
Federal Government, $10 k from Civic government)
no sweat....
You are so proud that you go to the park and don't do any exercise which
would actually get your heart working and build up a sweat.
Thats probably one of the main reasons that probably 80% of the computer
users I have met in the last 20 years are FAT ...and rapdily sliding towards
their first heart attack at 40 years old!!!
Go to a computer user group meeting....see the overly potbellied male users
( and many more female computer users and admins)
Maybe this Pavillion transformation from a family oriented quick ice
cream/drink place for the joggers/bicyclists into a sit down place for the
monied fat is at the heart of it.
We are creating more places for people to slack off at in this city..more
restaurants, more movie theatres, more bars, more casinos.
More places where you can sit, eat, get fat, fatter, fattest, avoid any type
of exercise and then eventually when you are fattened up like a pig, you
will keel over of a heart attack and need to go on the already overburdened
healthcare system.
So now we want to have kids worship a picture of a fat, lazy, dull witted
bear.
Great role model....for the kids and for WINNIpeg.
Why not pick a cartoon character that actually gets up and does
something...Road Runner would be a great choice for a city that wants to
race ahead of the pack and be progressive.
Like I said, they should have kept the $250,000 for the painting and gave me
$10,000 to create an original picture of Winnie for the city.
It would be the fat lazy Winnipeg bear, strolling down Portage avenue
getting pan handled for his honey and talking about bringing back the Jets
and saving downtown.
...and thats my story, and I'm stickin' to it!
Arthur D. Mira
wrote:
>Like I said, its not about the money nearly as much as it is about taking
>over public spaces with quasi private places.
This from someone who has consistantly flooded this public space with
his quasi private thoughts like some usenet version of a spasmodic
victim of Tourette's syndrome...
Go grab a coffee at the Conservatory, or in the Zoo, then all of us
can be happy.
Peter D
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Peter D -- over 40 and overweight! <vbg.
Jeff
>
> No I don't have any kids.
>
> I have also never seen any kids young girls/boys, teens or anyone with a
> Winnie lunchbox, winnie clothing, winnie pez dispenser or winnie
> anything...in Winnipeg in the hundreds of kids I've seen on the buses on the
> street etc etc.
>
You don't have kids, and THAT's why you don't see kids with Winnie stuff. You
just tune them out. When you have some of your own, that's when you really
start noticing what the other kids are wearing, talking about, etc.
FWIW, my 2 year old girl will NOT go to sleep without her Winnie Pooh blanket.
Just the promise of taking her to see the Pooh toys in the store stops a tantrum
instantly, and, for the record, she knows the names of all the story characters
and Piglet is her favourite.
Soooo.....don't be spouting off about what kids do or do not enjoy when you
obviously haven't got a f***ing clue.
taylerm
JJ wrote in message ...
> >"Jeff" <jeff...@spam.home.com> wrote in message
>news:3A175953...@spam.home.com...
>> Just the promise of taking her to see the Pooh toys in the store stops a
>tantrum
>> instantly, and, for the record, she knows the names of all the story
>characters
>> and Piglet is her favourite.
>> Soooo.....don't be spouting off about what kids do or do not enjoy when
>Doneee had never had a f***ing clue. He spouts constantly
>
JJ...you don't have kids either.
I can make comments about the number of kids I see carrying Winnie toys or
wearing Winnie toys by what I see on the street.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with that.
One doesn't need to have ones own kids to see what is popular on the street.
Sure I havent' seen every kid in the city.
I just said that I don't see this stuff on the street, or being advertised
at the Mcdonalds or Burger Kings of the world etc etc.
Its a slow moving, dopey, fat bear.
I can't imagine that many kids (boys) being impressed by it with the
competition from the fast moving, flashing, smashing toys that are out these
days.
Nobody can tell me that kids will be super impressed by that Winnie
picture...when there have been so many other super cute, colorful pictures
of Winnie over the years in print and on tv etc etc.