Possible leaked Shaman Enh talent from alpha.
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iapetes
Apr 20, 2008, 1:49:52 PM4/20/08
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http://boards.worldofraids.com/topic-12631-1.html
People are calling fake for all sorts of dumb reasons, like "he's in
terrokar" (first place I'd be if I copied to alpha is prolly shatt,
and first thing I'd do is leak pics of talents as soon as i log in!),
"there's no cursor" (it's just not in the pic obviously!), etc.
Whether it's real or not, and I learned last time not to dismiss leaks
like this, I thought it might be interesting to discuss. It might be
short range, but it should break you out of snares, unlike intercept,
and it has a low cooldown and does decent damage, especially if that
really is the level 40 rank of the spell.
People are calling fake for all sorts of dumb reasons, like "he's in
terrokar" (first place I'd be if I copied to alpha is prolly shatt,
and first thing I'd do is leak pics of talents as soon as i log in!),
"there's no cursor" (it's just not in the pic obviously!), etc.
Whether it's real or not, and I learned last time not to dismiss leaks
like this, I thought it might be interesting to discuss. It might be
short range, but it should break you out of snares, unlike intercept,
and it has a low cooldown and does decent damage, especially if that
really is the level 40 rank of the spell.
JC McCormick
Apr 20, 2008, 3:07:38 PM4/20/08
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Whoa
Richard A. Millard
Apr 20, 2008, 4:58:31 PM4/20/08
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So... it's just intercept?
Aaron
Apr 20, 2008, 5:58:45 PM4/20/08
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Intercept... on a shaman...
iapetes
Apr 20, 2008, 8:31:22 PM4/20/08
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More like shadowstep, based on the description. It sounds like, unlike
intercept, you should be able to use it to break snares like frost
nova. It's low range, but it has a really short cooldown and does 400
nature damage, apparently at the level 40 rank (that does say you get
it with 30 into enhancement I believe, which is interesting...they
might be reorganizing the talent tree's structure or something)
intercept, you should be able to use it to break snares like frost
nova. It's low range, but it has a really short cooldown and does 400
nature damage, apparently at the level 40 rank (that does say you get
it with 30 into enhancement I believe, which is interesting...they
might be reorganizing the talent tree's structure or something)
iapetes
Apr 20, 2008, 8:32:46 PM4/20/08
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Then again, maybe that says 50 points in enhancement, i cant really
tell.
tell.
iapetes
Apr 20, 2008, 8:38:10 PM4/20/08
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oh and I'm totally repeating myself from earlier!
JC McCormick
Apr 20, 2008, 9:10:50 PM4/20/08
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It is almost exactly what enhancement shamans asked for, for current issues. I notice it's mostly PvP application, though it would reduce DPS downtime in some PvE encounters that have a lot of running around.
iapetes
Apr 21, 2008, 11:55:11 AM4/21/08
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yeah and everyone feels it's fake, which it very possibly is. That'd
be too bad, but on the other hand everyone figured the paladin
spoilers during the last alpha were fake too... and they weren't <.<
be too bad, but on the other hand everyone figured the paladin
spoilers during the last alpha were fake too... and they weren't <.<
Richard A. Millard
Apr 21, 2008, 6:03:13 PM4/21/08
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I thought Dual Wield for Shaman was certainly a fake, last time around.
Of course, this would be a great talent for shaman. But this is something that we should have now. Are we going to have power creep, where everyone else is getting crazy new abilities, and we're just getting shit that we should already have?
I'm not a pessimist. It's just something I think about. I mean, we got a ton more hit points with the expansion, but everyone does a ton more damage, so what do we gain? An intercept will be awesome for us, but if every other class is getting better avoidance, cc, and roots - then are we really improving?
Of course, this would be a great talent for shaman. But this is something that we should have now. Are we going to have power creep, where everyone else is getting crazy new abilities, and we're just getting shit that we should already have?
I'm not a pessimist. It's just something I think about. I mean, we got a ton more hit points with the expansion, but everyone does a ton more damage, so what do we gain? An intercept will be awesome for us, but if every other class is getting better avoidance, cc, and roots - then are we really improving?
JC McCormick
Apr 21, 2008, 9:06:08 PM4/21/08
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I thought, essentially, the same thing, Richard. I couldn't bring myself to say it more than that "for current issues," but yeah. I will say, I like all of the new spells a whole lot - much more than I did initially. Even the elementals.
I'd like to see a non-nature sustainable nuke.
I'd like to see a non-nature sustainable nuke.
Solwolf
Apr 22, 2008, 10:28:30 AM4/22/08
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any warlock leaks going on?
On Apr 21, 9:06 pm, "JC McCormick" <esmev...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I thought, essentially, the same thing, Richard. I couldn't bring myself to
> say it more than that "for current issues," but yeah. I will say, I like
> all of the new spells a whole lot - much more than I did initially. Even
> the elementals.
>
> I'd like to see a non-nature sustainable nuke.
>
> On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 3:03 PM, Richard A. Millard <r.a.mill...@gmail.com>
>
> - Show quoted text -
On Apr 21, 9:06 pm, "JC McCormick" <esmev...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I thought, essentially, the same thing, Richard. I couldn't bring myself to
> say it more than that "for current issues," but yeah. I will say, I like
> all of the new spells a whole lot - much more than I did initially. Even
> the elementals.
>
> I'd like to see a non-nature sustainable nuke.
>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > I thought Dual Wield for Shaman was certainly a fake, last time around.
>
> > Of course, this would be a great talent for shaman. But this is something
> > that we should have now. Are we going to have power creep, where everyone
> > else is getting crazy new abilities, and we're just getting shit that we
> > should already have?
>
> > I'm not a pessimist. It's just something I think about. I mean, we got a
> > ton more hit points with the expansion, but everyone does a ton more damage,
> > so what do we gain? An intercept will be awesome for us, but if every
> > other class is getting better avoidance, cc, and roots - then are we really
> > improving?
>
>
>
>
> > I thought Dual Wield for Shaman was certainly a fake, last time around.
>
> > Of course, this would be a great talent for shaman. But this is something
> > that we should have now. Are we going to have power creep, where everyone
> > else is getting crazy new abilities, and we're just getting shit that we
> > should already have?
>
> > I'm not a pessimist. It's just something I think about. I mean, we got a
> > ton more hit points with the expansion, but everyone does a ton more damage,
> > so what do we gain? An intercept will be awesome for us, but if every
> > other class is getting better avoidance, cc, and roots - then are we really
> > improving?
>
> > On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 8:55 AM, iapetes <iape...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > yeah and everyone feels it's fake, which it very possibly is. That'd
> > > be too bad, but on the other hand everyone figured the paladin
> > > spoilers during the last alpha were fake too... and they weren't <.<- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > yeah and everyone feels it's fake, which it very possibly is. That'd
> > > be too bad, but on the other hand everyone figured the paladin
>
> - Show quoted text -
iapetes
Apr 22, 2008, 5:12:28 PM4/22/08
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Not yet, however in about a week a guildie of mine is going to be
playing alpha himself, so I'll be sure to ask about paladins, shamans,
and now warlocks =)
playing alpha himself, so I'll be sure to ask about paladins, shamans,
and now warlocks =)
iapetes
Apr 22, 2008, 5:29:24 PM4/22/08
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I will say though, last time Blizz focused on making strong pve specs
better in pvp and making pvp specs better in pve, or at least made
general efforts towards doing those things. Like all the new talents
after stormstrike and EM were originally very pve oriented, while
earthshield and other resto talents were great for improving resto in
pvp. Now, I imagine most of the new shaman content in general will
help pvpers.
better in pvp and making pvp specs better in pve, or at least made
general efforts towards doing those things. Like all the new talents
after stormstrike and EM were originally very pve oriented, while
earthshield and other resto talents were great for improving resto in
pvp. Now, I imagine most of the new shaman content in general will
help pvpers.
Richard A. Millard
Apr 22, 2008, 7:34:11 PM4/22/08
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I had two guildmates perma banned before TBC, for leaking alpha info. Just a warning for your friends.
One of them was our guild banker, and his banned account took all of our frozen runes with him. Sappiron / Kel-Thuzad was a bitch without, but we killed him the night before TBC launched! :)
One of them was our guild banker, and his banned account took all of our frozen runes with him. Sappiron / Kel-Thuzad was a bitch without, but we killed him the night before TBC launched! :)
iapetes
Apr 23, 2008, 4:08:30 AM4/23/08
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He won't actually be spilling anything in-game. He'll use IRC or meebo.
Richard A. Millard
Apr 23, 2008, 2:39:14 PM4/23/08
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Neither did my guildmates.
Oyo got banned for the following conversation:
Guildmate1 whispers: "Hey Oyo, hear anything new about the warrior talents?"
Oyo responds: "Nope. Hey, get on AIM real quick".
Sure, blizzard can suspect a lot from that conversation, but that's certainly not conclusive evidence. I'm just warning you guys to be careful, we got burned pretty bad. I've still never forgiven Blizzard for that bullshit.
Oyo got banned for the following conversation:
Guildmate1 whispers: "Hey Oyo, hear anything new about the warrior talents?"
Oyo responds: "Nope. Hey, get on AIM real quick".
Sure, blizzard can suspect a lot from that conversation, but that's certainly not conclusive evidence. I'm just warning you guys to be careful, we got burned pretty bad. I've still never forgiven Blizzard for that bullshit.
iapetes
Apr 24, 2008, 1:08:44 PM4/24/08
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K, thanks for the heads up
Captain Zifna
Apr 24, 2008, 7:47:08 PM4/24/08
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Wow, that's crazy.
On Apr 23, 2:39 pm, "Richard A. Millard" <r.a.mill...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> talents?"
> Oyo responds: "Nope. Hey, get on AIM real quick".*
On Apr 23, 2:39 pm, "Richard A. Millard" <r.a.mill...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Neither did my guildmates.
>
> Oyo got banned for the following conversation:
>
> *Guildmate1 whispers: "Hey Oyo, hear anything new about the warrior
>
> Oyo got banned for the following conversation:
>
> talents?"
> Oyo responds: "Nope. Hey, get on AIM real quick".*
>
> Sure, blizzard can suspect a lot from that conversation, but that's
> certainly not conclusive evidence. I'm just warning you guys to be careful,
> we got burned pretty bad. I've still never forgiven Blizzard for that
> bullshit.
>
> Sure, blizzard can suspect a lot from that conversation, but that's
> certainly not conclusive evidence. I'm just warning you guys to be careful,
> we got burned pretty bad. I've still never forgiven Blizzard for that
> bullshit.
>
Solwolf
Apr 25, 2008, 3:51:17 PM4/25/08
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NDAs are there for a reason.
Still sucks for you guys.
> > > He won't actually be spilling anything in-game. He'll use IRC or meebo.- Hide quoted text -
Still sucks for you guys.
Richard A. Millard
Apr 25, 2008, 3:57:59 PM4/25/08
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Oh yeah, I'm not disagreeing. They definitely both broke the rules.
Blizzard were serious dicks about it though. I mean, this one guy makes a mistake, and gets his account perma banned for life? He wrote a really nice apology letter, and asked not for his character to be reinstated, but just that the guild bank goods be transferred to someone else in the guild. Blizzard sent a reply that was essentially one sentence saying "Sucks to be you".
They're assholes.
Blizzard were serious dicks about it though. I mean, this one guy makes a mistake, and gets his account perma banned for life? He wrote a really nice apology letter, and asked not for his character to be reinstated, but just that the guild bank goods be transferred to someone else in the guild. Blizzard sent a reply that was essentially one sentence saying "Sucks to be you".
They're assholes.
Solwolf
Apr 28, 2008, 2:36:11 PM4/28/08
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Yeah, that's a shame. No need to punish a whole guild because of one
member's actions.
Guess this is the power you get when you're darn near a monopoly.
Customer service? Eff em, that's why.
On Apr 25, 3:57 pm, "Richard A. Millard" <r.a.mill...@gmail.com>
wrote:
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member's actions.
Guess this is the power you get when you're darn near a monopoly.
Customer service? Eff em, that's why.
On Apr 25, 3:57 pm, "Richard A. Millard" <r.a.mill...@gmail.com>
wrote:
iapetes
Apr 29, 2008, 5:57:17 AM4/29/08
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Well it's not like they banned the whole guild...
Richard A. Millard
Apr 29, 2008, 11:18:15 AM4/29/08
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Nah, they didn't.
But if you remember how Naxx progression was going, banning all of our frozen runes was essentially cockblocking our progression for good....
But if you remember how Naxx progression was going, banning all of our frozen runes was essentially cockblocking our progression for good....
Farmacy
May 6, 2008, 1:39:59 PM5/6/08
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Any info on Shaman?
Any ideas when they new talents will be announced?
On Apr 29, 11:18 am, "Richard A. Millard" <r.a.mill...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Any ideas when they new talents will be announced?
On Apr 29, 11:18 am, "Richard A. Millard" <r.a.mill...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Nah, they didn't.
> But if you remember how Naxx progression was going, banning all of our
> frozen runes was essentially cockblocking our progression for good....
>
> But if you remember how Naxx progression was going, banning all of our
> frozen runes was essentially cockblocking our progression for good....
>
Drats
May 7, 2008, 3:02:05 PM5/7/08
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Time to start a forum rumor:
I heard that our level 80 talent is going to remove the hidden wf
cooldown o.O.
I heard that our level 80 talent is going to remove the hidden wf
cooldown o.O.
Farmacy
May 10, 2008, 11:47:59 AM5/10/08
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Haha, I heard they were giving us an Air Elemental that crowd controls
one target for 1 minute, and is on a five minute cooldown.
I also heard they were adding in a "Health Tide Totem" that restores
25% of the parties health and removing the Mana Spring prereq from the
resto talent tree.
The 51 point talent is Molten Blast, and they are adding in a fourth
shock, that does 400 nature damage for each buff purged from a target
(up to three) or heals for 400 for each effect dispelled from a
friendly target (up to 3). It also will work on Paladin bubbles.
one target for 1 minute, and is on a five minute cooldown.
I also heard they were adding in a "Health Tide Totem" that restores
25% of the parties health and removing the Mana Spring prereq from the
resto talent tree.
The 51 point talent is Molten Blast, and they are adding in a fourth
shock, that does 400 nature damage for each buff purged from a target
(up to three) or heals for 400 for each effect dispelled from a
friendly target (up to 3). It also will work on Paladin bubbles.
JC McCormick
May 10, 2008, 1:21:44 PM5/10/08
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Those are good. I don't think I could top that.
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