We're WordCamp Melbourne - not AU
Anthony Cole
Just got an email that we can't brand ourselves as WordCamp Australia. Suckage, but as Jeff Waugh is on with WordCamp Canberra and with the possibly of a Gold Coast/Brisbane event, Jane says no go.
-ac
Dan Milward
Sent from my iPhone
Joseph Ortenzi
Was it cause the last one was WC Sydney?
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Dan Milward
Anyway I don't think its a problem. I think for us here in the collonies
calling the Summer camp WordCamp Wellington is kind of cool. I'm just
super proud to be from Wellington I guess :P
Ciao,
Dan
Jeff Waugh
> Just got an email that we can't brand ourselves as WordCamp Australia.
> Suckage, but as Jeff Waugh is on with WordCamp Canberra and with the
> possibly of a Gold Coast/Brisbane event, Jane says no go.
Oh, that's hilarious... 'cos in my reply to her confirmation about WordCamp
Canberra, I assured her we were aware of the "Melbourne in February" effort
and that it was very much "WordCamp Australia", we'd be involved and pimping
it at the Canberra event, etc.
*I* would very much like MEL2010 to be branded as "WordCamp Australia" and
for all of us to regard (and advertise) it as our major event for the year.
It's an ambition thing!
If that also happens to make sense to everyone here [1], let's sort it out
with Jane. She might even revise her stance once she receives my email! ;-)
- Jeff
[1] Not that we represent the opinions of, say, WordPress lovers in Broome
who may reject our claim to "Australia"... meanwhile, what's going on with
the WordCamp Australia organisation itself? Who holds office and so on?
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Dan Milward
shooting Jane another email and let Jeff work his magic :D
Best,
Dan
Anthony Cole
The WordCamp Association bank account still exists... to an extent. But for technical purpose, I'm pretty sure Sam's dissolved the association.
I'll forward her the emails and the emails I sent her as well in a little bit.
-ac
Joseph Ortenzi
who's blocking it?
Joe
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Anthony Cole
Dan Milward
Their reasons make sense to me (even though I'm not saying I agree with
everything). But then again I'm mostly a conformist who likes the way
WordPress / Automattic do things, I know them and I trust the brains at
work behind the scenes. I trust them to make us all WordPress so I'm
extending that trust here too. The benefits of using wordcamp.org are
(in my opinion);
1) It comes with a working ticketing system
2) Long term our stats will probably get fed into a global buddypress
analytics type system meaning awesome stats get given to us at no cost
of our own
3) We will probably get more exposure then other wise (plus lots of SEO
juice)
4) It will probably mean that Maya doesnt have to manually add new
wordcamp sites to their site - it probably enables the whole
wordcamp.org eco system to grown into a lean mean site that helps people
run better wordcamps. In the long run. Automatically.
It'll mean that we don't get all wound up and busy worrying about the
website. I mean we'll have a cool site don't get me wrong - but we're
here to facilitate a wordcamp and at the end of the day as long as we
get to sell tickets, integrate with a twitter plugin (and some other
cool plugins???) and select from a few some funky designs who really
cares. To be honest maintaining wordcamp.org.nz is just one more site I
don't really want to be responsible for - to be brutally honest
(providing wordcamp.org listens and gives us all the tools we need to do
our job) its just a waste of facilitator time.
Ciao,
Dan
Jeff Waugh
> I honestly don't think it matters in the long run.
Agree. I'd far *prefer* to use the central infrastructure, so everyone
benefits from work done on it, and we don't have to spend our time on
details like hosting and updates and so on (even if we happen to do that
every day).
I will definitely be using canberra.wordcamp.org... though I do wonder
whether they'd be keen to host wordcamp.org.au for us, and stick local
subdomains under that. :-)
> To be honest maintaining wordcamp.org.nz is just one more site I don't
> really want to be responsible for - to be brutally honest (providing
> wordcamp.org listens and gives us all the tools we need to do our job) its
> just a waste of facilitator time.
Concur, concur, concur.
- Jeff
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Brent Shepherd
>>I will definitely be using canberra.wordcamp.org... though I do wonder
>>whether they'd be keen to host wordcamp.org.au for us, and stick local
>>subdomains under that. :-)
project or whether is should result in code." - Jörg Schilling
Jeff Waugh
> > I will definitely be using canberra.wordcamp.org... though I do wonder
> > whether they'd be keen to host wordcamp.org.au for us, and stick local
> > subdomains under that. :-)
>
> Nice idea, but don't like our chances.
[I've asked Jane. Will report back. Then it's up to the association ctte to
decide -> still not sure who that is now, however!]
- Jeff
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Dan Milward
On 23/06/10 5:06 PM, Brent Shepherd wrote:
I think part of problem is the way it's being instituted. The way you present it Dan, it sounds like the great opportunity it is. The way it sounds like it's being presenting to (read: enforced on) Anthony, it sounds more like constrictive regulation. There is just something about being told "you're not allowed to do that" that makes me want to do it. :)
None of this stuff "really" matters in the big picture. For me I don't care how its sold to us - and I havent seen Jane's email so I can't comment. They might not be packaging it up the best way BUT in the long term I think the WP community stands to benefit from all these things.
I think what we're seeing is a maturation of the WordPress / Automattic community. And the benefits outweigh the cons.
Down with running yet another website. Hoorah!!
>>I will definitely be using canberra.wordcamp.org... though I do wonder
>>whether they'd be keen to host wordcamp.org.au for us, and stick local
>>subdomains under that. :-)
Nice idea, but don't like our chances. On that note though, Does any know if they'll be releasing code used for the super duper wordcamp.org? A meetup.com type plugin for WordPresss/BuddyPress would be a beaufitul thing!
I suspect what we'll see is a range of Plugins released over a period of time.
The ticketing plugin used is already GPL and available on WordPress extend.
Brent Shepherd
Anthony Cole
I mean, I'm fine with using wordcamp.org. It just seems a bit, ergh, beaurocratic. I can understand WHY things need to be done that way, but not why we need to be told things need to be done the way we're told. The way it's done is really childish.
I'll forward the emails in a bit.... having a bit of email overload today.
Sam owns the wordcamp.org.au domain, so I sent her to him to get that coordinated.
-ac