Re: [WoodFinishing Guide: 344] Digest for woodfinishingguide@googlegroups.com - 2 updates in 1 topic

[Joe Hornor]

Darnell's advice is exactly how I would handle this. I don't want my reputation out there on a piece I know will fail. As for the kiwi dry poly, etc., I didn't know it was still for sale. I used kwick Klein for 20 years. They haven't bothered to even call on me since chemisphere took over. Guess they don't want any business from Texas. 

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Darrelk <wood...@aol.com>: Oct 09 08:22AM -0700 Okay, first let me just say that I've been in business too long and am probably too old to tiptoe around potential customers. I'm the restorer, here is what needs to be done, and this is how I'm going to do it.... I am going to give you the best of "me" and what I do. There is a very finite amount of "me" left but I can do this job correctly and give you my best process for this application. I'd take the client over to one of those failing clear areas and take my thumbnail and rake it across a small area. YOU DON'T WANT ME TO REMOVE THAT???! I need to strip this because I can't bond to THAT..... I'll be as gentle as possible with my removal but stuff that is going to interfere with the new coating has got to go..... As far as bar tops go....a guarantee on the worst wear surface you can have??? The coating on any item is a wear surface which starts breaking down from the time we shoot it. I can guarantee my workmanship/application and that's about it.... I've had better luck selling Hood's Magnashield which is a premium pre-cat and telling the owners right up front....this stuff is repairable and can be overcoated.... so we are then talking about wear/tear and future maintenance. You might even want to discuss future dates for inspection and possible service. This shows trust/longevity of your company. I always laugh when we are out at restaurants/bars and I see the latest in new table top coatings that have been tried and ultimately fail. Polyesters, epoxies, polys, hybrids, etc. Stuff fails......   On Sunday, October 8, 2017 at 4:43:37 PM UTC-4, jafo wrote:

jafo <capt....@gmail.com>: Oct 09 09:23AM -0700 Amen! Thanks Darrel. I first gave a bid of "rough numbers" so they can budget it in...strip, repair, refinish.....they came back saying they didn't want to strip.....So I told them, your ok with paying less now...for a job that may last a few years, then paying again later to deal with it? Yes.   This was coming from the contractor....When I met the owner, I showed them as I scratched the finish off....My stuff is only as good as what is underneath.....The only good part about this is there is SOOOO much wear and tear and "character" to this old bar, that if something was to start to fail....it would probably blend in.....   The only bar top that I have seen that would hold up was granite. I too have yet to see a bar top (even poured epoxy) last....I am using a pre cat and vinyls sealer from chemisphere...I will have to look into that.   Is anyone using the Kwick Dry Poly from Flo Strip with any success?       On Monday, October 9, 2017 at 11:22:35 AM UTC-4, Darrelk wrote:

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