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hi people how is it going life?


When we get to know someone or something really well we sometimes use
a special name, a nick name. A nick name is really a name over and
above the name that something or someone already carries. i would say
that, with the nick name we indicate our special relation to
something
or someone. We make our world knowable by giving names,or let us say
assigning labels to them. But nicknames and proper names serve a
special function.


in fact giving names is a most peculiar act. In order to explore
the
living relations that we maintain with the world we first need to un-
name things. In the short story "She Unnames Them" the science
fiction
author Ursula Le Guin hints at what happens in un-naming.


for me Ursula in her let's say story or whatever you say strives to
say that after the unnaming she had discovered with surprise how
close she felt to the creatures around her. They seemed far closer
than when their names had stood between myself and them like a clear
barrier: so close that my fear of them and their fear of me became
one
and the same fear. i don't know how much are you going to agree with
my ideas. sometimes we need to hide our names to get more and
detailed
information about something or to protect ourselves from something.
at
the end of my word i would say that reflecting on words or names
helps
us to realize how closely related language is to thinking and to our
ways of being in the world. i have two questions to you. But what
occurs when we unname things is a question that is rarely asked. Can
we truly erase the words we give to the things that are important to
us?

[agasif...@yahoo.co.uk]

Hi to everyone


As we see in the beginning of the story mother says yo her
daughter"You must not tell anyone," my mother said," what am about
to tell you.It means they make a new secret frm a secret.But this
secret has a positive side of what mother wants her daughter to know.
Of course this is a family secret and have not to be spread
outside.But the main thing here is this of what mother warns her
daughter of net letting her father to know about this secret. This
secret becomes a temporary secret between mother and her daughter.
Perhaps in future that daughter will tell that secret to her own
children.


But I consider it an advice rather than a secret.It comes to me
mother wants to teach the mores to her daughter which they consider
normal in their daily life.Because of this mother tells her the story
of her aunt"s. Because of her aunt"s own free choice (married a
person who her famile did not want, a person out of
family,relatives).
Why I say a person out of family because according to Chinese society
at those times in this story siblings marriage could happen or they
marry someone from relatives.


Mother tells her daughter of what she first saw her aunt was
pregnant. She also uses the word " to menstruate" and tells her
daughter tat she will also menstruate. As I said above this seems an
"advice " rather than a secret ( sorry for repetition) .


Of course such family stories serve how to save traditions,
customs ,mores both in family and society.The girl"s aunt made a big
mistake of not following her family"s mores. The girl"s mother does
not want her daughter to do such kind of big mistajkes later on

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as i sured before i want to continue my explenation on this poem. as
i
said before i loved it .
my first opinion was that it is religious poem.
But it was my first ideas that came on me at the first time.
after reading second thierd times i got lots of ideas. here some of
them
1. it is about ther real abortion proress.the auther against such
kind
of step. by her messages wants to stop it


2. shows the situation that the mother got after the abortion


by giving mesage MOTHER she wanted to atract all mothers that wanted
to do abortion.
to make her work more influensible she used images such as voise
feel.
also these images say that if you also do this you too feel faced the
same problems as the MOTHER in the poem