William Womack, son of Abraham Womack and Elizabeth Stubblefield

[robert.e...@gmail.com]

"It has been determined" that the William Womack who married Lucy
Womack (dau of Thomas Womack & Louvisa Rice) was the son of Abraham
Womack and Elizabeth Stubblefield.

THIS IS INCORRECT!!!

The William Womack married to Lucy Womack was enumerated in the 1800
and 1810 Censuses of Rutherford Co, NC. His family moved to TN, and
church records place his wife Lucy in Sweedens Cove, Marion Co, TN, in
the 1820s. It has been said he died Jan 1820 - WRONG WILLIAM WOMACK!

I found the source of the Jan 1820 death for William son, of Abraham
Womack & Elizabeth Stubblefield. It comes from the bible of William P
Womack, son of Josiah Womack, son of Abraham Womack & Elizabeth
Stubblefield.

Here are the William P. Womack Bible entries:

Abraham Womack & Elizabeth Stubblefield was married Oct the 30th 1751
Elizabeth died March __ 1780 **
Abraham died May 6th 1800 **
Wm Womack their son died January 1820
Lucy their daughter died November 1816

I also have a transcription of the Josiah Womack Bible. It does NOT
have the marriage of Abraham Womack and Elizabeth Stubblefield. It
also does NOT have the death dates of their children William & Lucy.
It does have the deaths of Abraham & Elizabeth, but worded
differently:

Abraham Womack departed this life May 6, 1800, aged seventy four years
Elizabeth, his wife departed this life March 1800

The Josiah Womack bible also has the birth dates of all his siblings,
wife, and children, as well as the death dates of his siblings Sina,
Jehu, and Levy.

Lucy Womack, dau of Abe/Eliz, married Chalton/Charlton Ingram in
Caswell Co, NC. There is an Ingram family Bible in which her birth
date matches that given in Josiah Womack's bible. The Ingram Bible
does not say when dhe died, but Ingram researchers know that Chalton
Ingram moved to Caldwell Co, KY. There is a marriage record in
Caldwell Co, KY of "Chatten Ingram" to "Elizabeth Flennon" on 24 Jun
1817, which fits well with Lucy's death in Nov 1816.

Nancy Womack, dau of Abe/Eliz, married Benjamin Ingram, whose
relationship to Chalton Ingram is not known (probably a cousin), since
Ingram records seem to show that Chalton did not have a brother named
Benjamin. Benjamin Ingram was in the 1800 Census of Pendleton Dist,
SC about 10 lines from William Womack. There is a Pendleton deed
witnessed by William Womack & Rebecca Womack, no relatioinship given.

By 1809, Benjamin Ingram, Chalton Ingram, and William Womack were all
in Caldwell Co, KY, according to tax lists of 1809-1810-1811.
Benjamin Ingram left a will in Caldwell Co, KY in 1810, and one of the
witnesses was William Womack.

Since William Womack, son of Abe/Eliz, was in Caldwell Co, KY in 1810,
there is no way he was the William Womack who married Lucy Womack, dau
of Thomas/Louvisa, because in 1810, THAT William Womack was in
Rutherford Co, NC in the 1810 Census.

William Womack, son of Abe/Eliz, moved by 1818 to Gallatin Co, IL,
where he was for the 1818 Illinois territorial census, along with son
Green Womack. He was the William Womack who died in Jan 1820, which
explains why he was NOT in the 1820 IL territorial census, but his
widow Rebecca and sons Green and Benjamin were.

The will of Benjamin Ingram in 1810 in Caldwell Co, KY indicates a
wife but no kids, with everything left to wife, and after her death to
certain nephews. It does not name his wife as Nancy (Womack), but
later court documents do. Also, Benjamin Ingram's 64 acres in the
1809 tax list is in the possession of Nancy in 1810 and 1811. That
Banjamin and Nancy had no kids is matched by Benjamin Ingram's 1800
Census listing in Pendleton Dist, SC, in which there are no children.

Nancy (Womack) Ingram left a will in Trigg Co, KY in 1835 which I have
ordered. Since she had no kids, maybe she mentions some Womack nieces
or nephews. I will post when I know,

THE MAIN POINT - William Womack, son of Abraham Womack and Elizabeth
Stubblefield DID NOT marry Lucy Womack (dau of Thomas Womack & Louvisa
Rice) and DID NOT die in Marion Co, TN in Jan 1820. He DID marry
Rebecca LNU and died in Jan 1820 in Gallatin Co, IL.

In fact he likely moved from his parent's home in Caswell Co, NC first
to Wilkes Co, GA, where he is on 1780s tax list next to Seth
Stubblefield, his first cousin. He is probably the William Womack who
reported a rifle and horse stolen by Creek Indians during the
fiighting with the Creeks in the 1780s. Many people actually left
that part of GA due to the violence and moved to SC, and it appears
that William did so as well, moving near brother-in-law Benjamin
Ingram in Pendelton Dist, SC. William's son Green Womack was born
circa 1789 in SC or GA according to later censuses. William then
joined a large migration of people from SC to western KY, and later
moved to IL where he died.

This leave the big question - WHO WAS WILLIAM WOMACK who married Lucy
Womack? This William was in Burke Co, NC by 1778 along with Thomas
Womack/Louvisa Rice, and he later married their daughter Lucy.

[Beth]

"This leave the big question - WHO WAS WILLIAM WOMACK who married Lucy
Womack? This William was in Burke Co, NC by 1778 along with Thomas
Womack/Louvisa Rice, and he later married their daughter Lucy."

You know my theory, Robert Earl !

Some researchers say the the husband of Lucy Womack, William Womack
was born 11 Nov 1753 Halifax Co., VA. The Bean researchers say Martha
Womack Bean was born 20 Mar 1758 Halifax Co., VA. I agree.

Who was in Halifax Co., VA in 1758?

"Lunenburg Co., Va. Order Book 5 pg 103: Jacob Womack took oath to his
Majesty's Person & Government as a Commanding Officer of one of the
townships of Halifax Co. July Court 1758."

So its feasible that Martha Womack Bean's brother was William Womack
who married Lucy Womack.

North Carolina Revolutionary War Pay Vouchers

1783 - Morgan District - William Wammock - 9 Pounds - 15 Shillings -
for a public claim.

1784 - Morgan District - Johnson Womack - 3 Pounds - for militia
service.

1781 - Burke County - Jacob Womack - paid 261 Spanish milled dollars
(to bear interest at 6%) - for 378 lbs. of fresh pork.

Madison Co., Ark., 30 of October, 1837 - "personally appeared" Johnson
Wamack, {son of Jacob} aged 75 years. Volunteered in a militia company
of "Horsemen!' commaned by Capt. Jonathan Kemp "'at an old field,
Capt. Kemp's muster ground near Pleasant Gardens on the Catawba River"
in Burke Co., NC about June 20, 1780.

"Morgan District was formed in 1782 when Salisbury District was
divided. The following counties were taken to form Morgan District:
Burke, Lincoln, Rutherford, Sullivan, Washington and Wilkes (Sullivan
and Washington Counties were in what is now Tennessee).** Morgan
District was divided in 1784, with the counties of Burke, Lincoln,
Rutherford and Wilkes remaining in Morgan District **, and the
counties of Davidson, Greene, Sullivan and Washington (all in Tenn.)
being formed into Washington District."

Jacob was not in Burke Co., NC in 1778.

"Jacob Womack *1746, Lunenburg., VA, son of Richard, one of the first
Magistrates of Washington Co. 1777; Straymaster 1778; Justice of
Washington Co. 1778-80; Kings Mountain Men" G973336 Red Book. *DOB
not likely if his daughter, Martha Womack Bean were born in 1758 and
son, Johnson in 1762. 1735 would be closer.

1790 Rutherford Co., NC - Louisa Womack (Louvisa)
1790 Ninety-Six District Pendleton District, SC - Jacob Womack
1790 Ninety-Six District, Spartanburgh County, SC - Abner Wamock
1800 Pendleton Co., SC - Sarah - 16-25
1800 Pendleton Co., SC - William Womack - over 45
1800 Spartanburg Co., SC - *Cloe* Wammack - 16-25

Francis Marion Womack: "My father's name was Isham Rice Womack {son
of William & Lucy}, was of Irish descent, was born on Little Pedee
River in North Carolina on the 29 day of Sept. 1789...............I
know nothing of Grandfathers brothers, he had one sister (*Chloe*)
think there were several brothers & sisters among them."

http://www.womacknet.com/features/jtwletter.html
J. T. (John Tipton, son of Abner Cements) Womack was living in Fackler
(not Facklin), Jackson Co., AL when he wrote a letter dated 14 Apr
1896. He wrote:
".......my Grandfather {William & Lucy} whose name was William or
Abner, I now disremember which. I think he married in N. C. or at
least there he raised his family, consisting of seven boys & about two
girls. The girls I never did see. The boys all came to Tenn from N. C.
& in that State I think they all married & afterwards came to Ala."

What other Womack was connected to Sweden's Cove, Marion Co, TN
besides William and Lucy's family? Martha Womack Bean. Robert Bean
died in Sweden's Cove Marion Co., TN 17 Nov 1824. Robert and Martha's
daughter married Levi Berry Womack, son of William and Lucy.

Tennessee Land Records

Warmack, William 1813, 50a, G Dist, bk G, p 137, g#4915
Warmack, William 1813, 50a, MTN Dist, bk 5, p 400, g#4915
Wormack, David 1814, 10a, G Dist, bk I, p 220, g#6414
Womack, David 1814, 10a, MTN Dist, bk 5, p 27, g#6414
Wormack, Larkin 1814, 13a, G Dist, bk I, p 219, g#6189
Warmack, Larkin 1814, 13a, G Dist, bk 5, p 32, g#6189

William most likely was David's brother as opposed to his nephew,
William "Buck".

John Tipton Womack also wrote: "My last Uncle Levi died the 27 of
last June at the ripe age of 94 years & 20 days." So Levi Berry
Womack died 27 Apr 1895, making his birth year 1801. This is
different info from what I've seen.

Beth

On Jul 6, 11:48 pm, robert.earl.bu...@gmail.com wrote:

[robert.e...@gmail.com]

The Martha Womack who married Bean could have been the dau of Isham
Womack. See Roger's page: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rgwomack/thomas_womack.htm

I have records of Isham Womack in Henrico/Chesterfield, Amelia/Prince
Edward, and Halifax Cos, VA. I also have some possible records of an
Isham Womack in SC (may have been a Warnock). Roger has Isham married
to a Mary LNU, but I have seen no such evidence. I know that Isham
was married to Elizabeth LNU, from Halifax deeds. Anyhow, the birth
years that Roger has for Isham's children appear to be incorrect -
they were probably born later.

You are correct about Major Jacob being born closer to 1735 than
1745. He was a Sgt and later Ensign of the VA militia during the time
period of the French-Indian War.

[Beth]

Lucy Estelee Beene Rankin, a descendant of Robert Bean and Martha
Womack wrote "The Bean Tree" Here is an exact excerpt from the book,
written by Lowry Franklin Owens, great grandson of Robert Bean and
Martha Womack:

".....Grandmother's father, Robert Bean fought in the War against the
British, and I've often heard them tell that he was a "deadshot" with
his rifle, and in one battle he killed the commanding officer, but I
do not remember the name of the Battle, but he fought with a General
Clarke from George as did others of his Watauga neighbors. I remember
they talked a lot about the Battle of King's Mountain and as well as I
can recollect this was near the North and South Carolina border.

Great grandfather Bean married Martha Womack (she was nicknamed
"Patsey") soon after coming to the Watauga, and her father, Jacob
Womack, was one of the early settlers there. After the close of the
War, Robert and Martha Bean with their chldren began to move south
through Tenessee and except for a brief say in Georgia, settled in
Franklin County, Tennessee. He moved over to the adjoining County of
Marion after it was formed and died there about 1824."

[robert.e...@gmail.com]

Wow.

I had not seen that before.

Is it possible that Lowry Franklin Owens did NOT know this through
family sources, but through history books?

History books in Tennessee mention Watauga, Jacob Womack, Robert
Bean. Do you think he could have inferred some of this?

I am no Bean family expert, but I know there were two Robert Beans who
were first cousins, and who have been thoroughly confused, one born
about 1750, and one born 1764. The 1764 Robert Bean married Martha
Womack. Their son Lemuel Bean fought in one of the early Indian Wars,
I think against the Creeks. He had a US Military pension, though I am
do not know the pension number. As part of that pension, the bible
record of Robert Bean & Martha Womack was inserted, and that is the
source of our knowledge of this family. "Children's birth dates
submitted to the U.S. Pension Office in 1893 by Ester Bean, second
wife of Lemuel Bean (1812-1884) Accepted as correct by the National
Archives, 1893."

See this thread: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/bean/2005-11/1132839139
(Beth is in there somewhere)

Also this: http://old.pearland.com/HOKANSON/rbeanf.htm

Jime Beene seems to be the person who knows most about this family.

Anyhow, I think Robert Bean (1750) was at Watauga. Robert Bean (1764)
fought at Kings Mountain, and many of the American who fough there
were from Watauga.

So, did Mr Owens "know" this info about his great-grandparents, or did
he do some genealogy work and come to these conclusions?

My feeling is that what he said is probably true.

So Martha Bean, dau of Robert Bean/Martha Womack married Levi Womack,
son of William Womack/Lucy Womack. If both Martha Womack and William
Womack were children of Jacob Womack, then Martha Bean and Levi Womack
were first cousins.

I am following all this correctly, Beth?

[Beth]

Lowry Franklin Owens, born 21 Apr 1864 Printiss Co., MS, was the son
of John Howard Owens and Rhoda Bean, b. 2 Nov 1783, daughter of Robert
Bean and Martha Womack.

Verbatim: '.....On 7 Sep 1951 he wrote, " I, Lowry Franklin Owens am
eighty seven years old, and was born the 21st day of April, 1864, in
Old Tishomingo County (now Prentiss County), Mississippi; and as the
last living grandson of Rhoda Bean and John Owens, I have been
requested to write a short history of my family, which I will endeavor
to do to the best of my knowledge........"

I can't skip this part.....one thing is so funny!

".......Grandfather John Owens was a very remarkable man as he lived
to be 114 years, 6 months, 2 weeks of age and I remember him well as
he died in 1877 when I was about thirteen years old. He would tell me
he was nearly twice as old as his wife when they married. He was
about thirty-five and Grandmother Rhoda was only eighteen, and yet he
outlived Grandmother and married again, * cut his third set of teeth
*, and his eyesight returned all after he was ninety years old. He is
buried in the Old Forked Oak Cemetery about half a mile from the
present Church and Cemetery on land now owned by Joe Moss in the 4th
Distict of Prentiss County, Mississippi. Grandmother Rhoda Bean Owens
died in Jackson County, Alabama before Grandfather moved here to
Mississippi in 1848.

Grandfather John Owens fought as a young man in western North Carolina
against the British and Tories as his father and family were Whigs.
After the Revolutionary War was over several years, he married Rhoda
Bean, and some of her people spelled the name Beene. Grandfather was
born in North Carolina, but Grandmother Rhoda was born in what is now
Tennessee, as her father Robert Bean had come as a young man with his
parents from Virginia and settled on the Watauga."

According to the Owens researchers, John Howard Owens b. September 21,
1758, NC; d. May 27, 1873, was the son of Nancy Howard and Elisha
Owens, whose Will was dated July 24, 1817, Edgecombe Co., NC.

I believe Lowry's grandfather, John Owens was able to tell his
grandson, Lowry about Watauga. The stories might have been a wee bit
embellished to keep the youngster's attention.

This Robert Bean is the one who has the RW tombstone in Marion Co.,
TN. He was the son of John Bean and Elizabeth Henderson.

The other Robert Bean, born in 1747-1750 Halifax Co., VA and died 1793
Hawkins Co., TN, married Rhoda Lane, daughter of Dutton Lane and
Elizabeth Oaks. He was the son of Lydia Russell and William Bean/Been
of Watauga. He and his brother, Jesse were the first settlers of
Bean's Station in Hawkins Co., TN.

William Bean and John Bean, both fathers of the Robert Beans, were
brothers, according to the Bean researchers.

Many years ago when I first became aware of the two Bean families and
the connection to Maj. Jacob and Watagua, it was thought that Robert
Bean (m. Martha Womack) was the son of William Bean and Lydia
Russell. After many hours of reading the Bean web pages and asking
what they thought were insulting questions and getting my rump chewed
out, I became acquainted with a couple of die-hard male Bean
researchers.

Jim Beene, who lives in Norman, OK, sent me his bound copy of the
research Bettye Sitton Reed used to gain admission to DAR on the RW
service of Jacob Womack. This is the research with tons of very old
Womack records and very little about Jacob. In Bettye Reed's work, I
found no documentation that Captain Robert Bean was the Robert Bean
who shot and British Maj. Frasier at Musgroves Hill in 1780.

Jim also sent me his 1997 research, "John Been (ca. 1728/40)" Jim
included some interesting records, one of which is a copy of a page
from a Bible someone obtained from the Washington archives with the
birth dates of Capt. Robert Bean and Martha Womack's children.

I have a copy of Estelee's Beene Rankin's research. She was born 1918
in Howard Co., AR. Estelee's husband, L. D. Rankin's father and my
daughter-in-law's great grandmother were siblings.

Today with DNA testing and the records available on the web and in old
court house basements as well as in our Capitol, we're continuing to
change lineages that early researchers thought to be correct. I think
Sam's finally gotten the world straight that Maj. Jake's wife wasn't
Mary. And I have yet to find where Martha is ever documented as his
wife. The one doc I have with his wife has her name as Sarah.

Now we fast forward to 1828 in Arkansas where Jacob's grandson, Larkin
Womack is living in Crawford County with Col. Robert Bean (1779-1847)
and his brother, Mark Bean (1794-1862). They were the sons Jesse Bean
and Elizabeth Mitchell and grandsons of William Bean of Watauga. I'm
sure you can understand my quest to understand the Bean lineages.

And Robert, based on what I've learned about the inter-marriages of
the Sanders and Womacks in Jackson Co., AL, I'd hate to 'cipher' their
DNA test results!

B~


On Jul 8, 2:35 pm, robert.earl.bu...@gmail.com wrote: