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[janmariewv]

I am returning to this after many years. My original search was
from the days of letters and informal family histories and charts. I
believe I sent one of our Womack family charts, reportedly passed down
from a great uncle in Texas, to researcher Carlos Womack back in the
early 1980’s. If it is not out there now, I would be glad to share
it. It is quite extensive, but handwritten and old.

My Womack family lived in Trinity County Texas, so I am very
interested in the line of my great great grandparents- Abraham James
Womack and Rebecca Jane Franklin. I have recently been focusing on the
migration to Texas of the Franklin family (with Womacks, in many
cases, AJ among them) from Rankin County, Mississippi.

Back in 1980, I contacted my alma mater, Bethany College in WV, as the
chart mentioned above showed marriages between Womacks, Franklins, and
Campbells. I was told that the Campbell connection was false. Just
recently, I found more leads on this relationship via the internet,
and found that there is indeed a repeated pattern of marriages between
the Womacks, Franklins, and Campbells (in both Rankin County and
Louisiana) and a repeated connection to the Campbells of Bethany.
Since I just retired (well, semi-retired) from the college, I now have
the time to pursue this. Since Alexander Campbell was both founder of
the College and Disciples of Christ Church, there are rich artifacts
regarding these relatives preserved at the college library. So- if
your Womack line includes Franklins or Campbells, please feel free to
contact me.

Organizing and sharing information is one of my biggest questions
right now. I have been organizing documents, pictures, and family
stories in files on my computer. I need to find a good program, either
software or online, to organize , store , and share this data. I
would very much appreciate advice from anyone who has found a good
solution that works well for them.

I look forward to sharing with you all- just really need some time to
digitally organize what I have so I can do so reliably! Robert, I have
enjoyed reading your posts through the last few years! I believe you
may remember me as the "Indian Abe" connection~my grandmother, Mattie
Womack's, sharing with me about her grandfather, Abraham James Womack.

[Robert Burke]

Good to hear from you!

For those who don't know, Abraham J Womack was the son Richard Womack
(born circa 1785) and unknown first wife, and Richard was the son of
Lt Jesse Womack and Phoebe LNU.

I was just looking at this line yesterday.

By his first wife, name unknown, Richard had:
Jesse (c1813) who married Rebecca Wilson
Richard who married Lucinda LNU
Abram/Abraham J (born circa 1814) who married Rebecca Jane Franklin

Next, Richard married Sarah Walker Dent, widow of Uriah Dent on 17 Nov
1816 in Clarke Co, AL (then part of Mississippi Territory)
They had:
Mary (c1822) who married Green Walker
Vashti (c1826)
Mansel (c1828)

I also think Richard Womack and Sarah Walker were the parents of
Phoebe Womack who married Joseph Riddle of the Choctaw nation.

Sarah Walker had children by Uriah Dent, including:
Ferdinand Dent (c1809)
Elizabeh Dent (c1808) married David Kennedy

Richard Womack was in Lawrence Co, MS on 10 Mar 1824 when he consented
for his daughter (actually step-daughter) Elizabeth Kent to marry
David "Canady" with Francis Warmack (Richard's brother) bondsman.

Richard Womack was on the 1830 Census of Simpson Co, MS next to David
Kennedy, By 1840, Richard had died. I believe his widow Sarah and
younger kids are in the household of Green Walker in Lauderdale co, MS
in the 1840 Census. By 1850, Sarah Walker Dent Womack, Ferdinand
Dent, Green Walker, and Abram J Womack were all in Rankin Co, MS.

[janmariewv]

Thanks for the welcome, Robert! I am so enjoying getting back to this.

Perhaps you can help me- I have always come to a dead stop with AJ
Womack as far as any kind of documentation connecting him to Richard.
I know you and others have worked a long time on this, so anything you
have on this would be very much appreciated. I have census records
showing AJ's family, but I can never find him in anyone elses family
group.

I do have some interesting information on the Dent group you mentioned
marrying in and out of the Womacks, Frankins, and through the Franklin
line, Campbells, if anyone is interested in that-

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[Robert Burke]

In one of the Womack Genealogy newsletters (http://www.womacknet.com/
sources/wgv4n2.html), Mrs. Alma Hill Robertson presented here research
on the Richard Womack (son of Lt Jesse) family. See also my post a
couple days ago on Lt Jesse Womack and Phoebe LNU.

Alma stated that Richard had three sons by his first marriage,
Richard, Jesse, and Abram J. I have seen other references to Abram J
as Abraham James or "Indian Abe".

Richard Jr may have been the eldest. Patricia Harlan contributed
this to the old WGN site:
Saturday, July 16, 2005 at 22:18:57 (PDT)
patricia harlan
PLan...@aol.com Can anyone identify the Richard Womack who was
divorced in Simpson County, MS
in 1834. His wife was Lucinda. In the Superior Court records it states
she
went to Alabama for a short time and then moved to Smith County, MS.
The records also mentions a child. Who is Richard's father? There are
several
Richard Womack in Simpson County, MS in 1830.

If you look at the 1830 Census of Simpson Co, MS, you will Richard
Womack (Sr) right before David Kennedy, who was married to Richard's
step-daughter, Elizabeth Dent. I know that the Richard Womack next to
David Kennedy is Richard Sr, son of Lt Jesse, because a) he is next to
David Kennedy, and b) Richard Sr is in his 40s, thus born in the
1780s, and that does not fit with any of the David Womack/Mildred
Pryor family in the same area. David Womack (brother of Lt Jesse) and
Mildred Pryor also had a son Richard, but he had died by 1830, and his
widow Martha was in Copiah Co, MS in the 1830 census.

A few pages from Richard Womack (Sr) in the 1830 census of Simpson Co,
MS, there is Francis Warmack, Richard Warmack, and Samuel Stone in a
row. (Also on the same page is Robert Warmack, son of David Womack/
Mildred Pryor.) Francis Womack was Richard's (son of Lt Jesse)
brother. I think the Richard Womack listed right after Francis Womack
was Richard Sr's son, and the one who married Lucinda and then
divorced here in 1834 in Simpson Co, MS. Samuel Stone, right after
Richard Womack (Jr) apparently followed Francis Womack to Smith Co,
MS, where he (Samuel Stone) is listed in the 1840 Census 3 lines after
Francis Womack. In the 1850 Census of Smith Co, MS, Samuel Stone is
listed right after Francis Womack, and Lucinda Womack (35) and
Elizabeth Womack (18) are living in Samuel Stone's household. Francis
Womack had a daughter Lucinda living with him who was 20 in the 1850
census, so the Lucinda Womack living with Samuel Stone was not
Francis' daughter. Rather, I think she was the ex-wife of Richard
Womack Jr, especially since Pat Harlan's research says the court
records state that Lucinda (ex-wife of Richard) moved to Smith Co,
MS. The girl Elizabeth was the child who was mentioned in the divorce
case. No idea how Samuel Stone fits in.

I do not know what became of Richard Womack Jr after he divorced.
Note that I do not think Richard who married Lucinda was Francis' son,
because it does not appear Francis' first marriage was until circa
1812/1813, and the Richard Womack who married Lucinda was in his 20s
in 1830. See this link on Francis Womack:
http://boards.ancestry.com/localities.northam.usa.states.mississippi.counties.smith/1253/mb.ashx
Note that I have not personally verified the info, so I do not their
proof that Francis' middle name was Marion (though lots of boys were
named Francis Marion after the Rev War hero), or that Francis' first
wife was Malinda Kennedy.

Richard Womack Jr may be the Richard Womack who married Martha J
McNeil on 1 May 1855 in Amite Co, MS (there is a 15 year old Martha J
McNeal living with Daniel McNeal in Amite Co, MS on the 1850 Census),
but if so, they had no children and Richard apparently died by 23 Nov
1859 when Martha J Womack married Thomas Shropshire in Wilkinson Co,
MS (adjacent to Amite), and they are on the 1860 Census of Wilkinson;
Martha is 24.

After the 1830 Census of Simpson Co, MS, Richard Womack (son of Lt
Jesse) moved to Lauderdale Co, MS (formed in 1833). Richard Wormack
"of Lauderdale County" got a land patent there on 5 Jan 1841.
However, 5 Jan 1841 was when the patent process completed. It usually
took a couple years, and Richard was dead by the time the patent was
issued. The patent was in Township 7 N, Range 15 E. On the same day
that Richard's patent was issued, two patents for Jesse Womack were
issued in the same Township/Range. If you plot out where the land
patents were located, Richard's patent was adjacent to one of Jesse's
patents. In the 1840 Census of Lauderdale Co, MS, Jesse Womack is
listed. He was later missed in the 1850 Census, but was in Lauderdale
Co, MS in 1860; then to Kemper Co, MS in 1870 and 1880. Pat Harlan is
a descendant. Maybe there are some more records of Richard Womack in
Lauderdale Co, MS.

Green Walker was also in Lauderdale Co, MS in 1840. I have not seen
the evidence, but I have seen claims his wife was Mary Womack, dau of
Richard Womack and Sarah Walker. It appears that the widow Sarah
Walker Dent Womack and her family was living with Green Walker in
1840. If we break down the 1830 Simpson Co, MS census numbers for
Richard:
176 1 Wammack Richard 1002 001 1110 01 31 12
M 0-4 Mansel
M 15-19 Abram
M 15-19 Jesse
M 40-49 Richard
F 0-4 Vashti
F 5-9 Mary
F 10-14 Phoebe?
F 30-39 Sarah
plus 4 female slaves

In 1840 Lauderdale Co, MS, the household of Green Walker has numbers
10101 - 00111001 - 1 female slave
M 0-4 Richard Walker
M 14-19 Mansel Womack
M 20-29 Green Walker
F 10-14 Vashti Womack
F 15-19 Mary Womack Walker
F 20-29 Phoebe Womack?
F 50-59 Sarah Walker Dent Womack

By 1850, Sarah Walker Dent Womack had moved to Rankin Co, MS and was
in the census between her son Ferdinand Dent and her son-in-law Green
Walker.

Abram Womack married Rebecca Franklin in 1837 in Rankin Co, MS, and he
was likely there in 1840, but missed in the census. He is shown as A
J Womack, 36, born in AL in the 1850 Census. Being born in AL is
important. The David Womack/Mildred Pryor extended family was all in
Louisiana or Mississippi by 1814. Since Abram was born in AL in 1814,
he could not have been from the David Womack/Mildred Pryor bunch.