[Wikitech-l] GSoC -- TranslateSvg: Bringing the translation revolution to Wikimedia Commons

[Harry Burt]

Hey all,

Now I have more of the details sorted out, I'd like to invite feedback on
my Google Summer of Code proposed project, entitled *TranslateSvg: Bringing
the translation revolution to Wikimedia Commons *.[1]. Obviously the
deadline for submissions is rapidly closing in, but comments would still be
very welcome, either before or after that deadline.

To quote from my proposal:

> TranslateSvg has the potential to revolutionise the ability of Wikimedia's
> diverse groups of image maintainers to work together creating and improving
> the same communal set of SVG (vector) images. At the moment, providing
> alternative translations of SVG files typically requires "forking" the
> image. This drastically increases the image's maintenance burden and
> thereby discourages image improvement. Where such improvement does take
> place, it is seldom shared between different language versions.
> TranslateSvg would completely change this suboptimal workflow by removing
> the need for the image to be forked; instead, translations (provided using
> a streamlined special page) would be saved inside the image itself, in
> accordance with the SVG 1.1 specification. The file, complete with these
> embedded translations, could then be displayed in either the language of a
> wiki, the user's preferred interface language, or any given arbitrary
> language. If the SVG file were to be served directly, it would helpfully
> display in the user's system language where such a translation was
> available, aiding reuse possibilities. When I originally raised this idea
> it received the support of several Wikimedia Commons users as well as WMF
> developers.
>
Thanks!

Harry (User:Jarry1250)

[1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Jarry1250/GSoC_2012_application
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[Strainu]

În data de 1 aprilie 2012, 12:39, Harry Burt <jarr...@gmail.com> a scris:
> Hey all,

Hi Harry,

>
> Now I have more of the details sorted out, I'd like to invite feedback on
> my Google Summer of Code proposed project, entitled *TranslateSvg: Bringing
> the translation revolution to Wikimedia Commons *.[1]. Obviously the
> deadline for submissions is rapidly closing in, but comments would still be
> very welcome, either before or after that deadline.

This would be great if implemented. However, I do have a small
observation on your project. You seem to want to target your extension
for deployment on Wikimedia Commons. I think a better approach is to
use it on Translatewiki, as the community there has much more
experience with l10n.

An ideal situation (but hardly appropriate for a summer project) is to
have some kind of suggestion box on Commons that would appear on
Translatewiki when that particular SVG is translated.

Regards,
Strainu

[Siebrand Mazeland]

It woud be pretty cool if you could add it as a feature to the translate extension. It's pretty modular, and what it would require is an "on the fly" message group creation, as well as an integration into the image pages, I presume similar to the page translation feature.

Add Niklas on Cc in case he can provide some input.

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[Gerard Meijssen]

Hoi,
You did create a prototype extension for this before. Was it ever reviewed ?
Thanks,
Gerard

http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.com/2012/01/translations-in-svg.html

[Niklas Laxström]

On 3 April 2012 16:44, Siebrand Mazeland <s.maz...@xs4all.nl> wrote:
> It woud be pretty cool if you could add it as a feature to the translate extension. It's pretty modular, and what it would require is an "on the fly" message group creation, as well as an integration into the image pages, I presume similar to the page translation feature.
>
> Add Niklas on Cc in case he can provide some input.

It's relative easy to register new message group dynamically to
Translate extension:
* Use TranslatePostInitGroups hook to register the group
* Subclass one of the message group classes
* Either make sure MessageGroups::clearCache is called or correct
dependencies for the cache are added with the above hook.
* Probably also need to call statistic purging hooks at places.

Talk to me if you want to have more details how to do the above.
-Niklas

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