Wizard 2 - Coming January 2021

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Evan Miller

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Nov 18, 2020, 11:09:28 AM11/18/20
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Hello everyone!

If it's been quiet around here for a while, it's because I've been hard at work on improving Wizard. Today I'm excited to announce the fruit of those efforts – an upcoming release called Wizard 2. Wizard 2 will be sold as a separate product on the App Store, and is available for immediate pre-order here:


The key improvements to Wizard 2 include a freshened interface, a brand-new Correlate module, several new importers, and full optimization for Apple's M1 chip. Wizard 2 retains familiar workflows while improving the Wizard's look and feel, and adding dozens of productivity enhancements both small and large. The rest of this email describes the changes in detail, or you can click the link above to view high-resolution screenshots.


Fresh Colors and Controls


The Summary and Predict modules now feature larger graphics, more vibrant colors, and more accessible export options. The Raw Data interface is nearly unrecognizable: you can now search and replace, copy and paste, and make rectangular selections similar to Excel. You can build a model from anywhere in the document using the new Model Builder workflow. All modules are now available in an attractive new Dark Mode.


New Correlate Module


One of the most common feature requests I receive is to "see" a correlation matrix before exporting it. So there's a new toolbar button in Wizard 2 called Correlate, and with it you can custom-build a correlation matrix of any size with thumbnail data visualizations in every cell. Scroll and scan through hundreds of scatterplots at a time - Wizard 2 squeezes every drop of performance out of your hardware to bring you an instant overview of your entire data set.


New Importers

Wizard 2 ships with three new data importers:

* The new HTML importer scans web pages for <table> tags and stores the data in a Wizard table. This importer is directly accessible in Safari – so you can actually import data that is behind a log-in wall, or that has been dynamically generated with JavaScript.


* The new FileMaker Pro importer is the product of a long effort on my part to reverse engineer the FileMaker format. I'm happy to announce that Wizard 2 will be able to import data from FileMaker databases going all the way back to FileMaker version 7.

* Finally, the new SQL Server connector will import tables from Microsoft SQL Server, including Azure SQL database. This connector complements the existing MySQL and PostgreSQL connectors to help you pull in data wherever it may be found.


Optimized for Apple M1


Wizard 2 actually began as an effort to move the core regression routines away from OpenCL - the technology used by Wizard since 2012 to estimate models as quickly as possible. OpenCL is officially deprecated by Apple, and will not work on Apple's new M1 chip, which is the heart of the new MacBooks and Mac Mini.

I have some good news for all Wizard customers here: As of today, all Wizard products have moved away from OpenCL. That is, Wizard, Wizard Pro, and Wizard 2 will all function as expected on Apple's new M1 chip.

There will be one key difference: Wizard 2 will be delivered as a Universal Binary, specifically optimized for the M1. This means that if you buy a new Mac with an M1 chip, you can expect up to a 50% speed increase using Wizard 2 compared to the existing Wizard products.


New Pricing Model

One of the challenges of selling software is figuring out how to make a product financially accessible to as many customers as possible. While Wizard is priced extremely competitively compared to most multivariate statistics software, instructors have told me that it is just out of reach for many of their students.

In order to reach as many customers as possible, Wizard 2 is moving to subscriptions. I know many of you don't want to hear that, but the reality is that paid software is a difficult business without a dedicated marketing organization – which I don't have.

To encourage you to give Wizard 2 a try, there will be a significant first year discount for existing customers. Here is the full breakdown, in US dollars:


* Standard subscription: $19.99 / quarter or $49.99 / year

* Upgrading from Wizard: $24.99 in the first year


* Pro subscription: $129.99 / year (includes all Standard features)

* Upgrading from Wizard Pro: $59.99 in the first year


The Pro subscription, as with Wizard Pro, will include file and command support for SAS, SPSS, and Stata. In addition, a Pro subscription will be required to use the SQL connectors, as these are primarily used by commercial customers.

Non-US customers should check the App Store listing for prices specific to their country.

While all new feature development will happen on Wizard 2, Wizard and Wizard Pro will continue to be sold and supported in the App Store, including on Big Sur and Apple M1 hardware. Documents created with Wizard 2 can be opened with Wizard and Wizard Pro – and vice versa. The choice to upgrade to Wizard 2 – or stick with an existing product – is completely up to you.


Final Thoughts

There are many more new features I haven't mentioned, including autosaved documents, all-new icons, a new Column Property inspector, and gentle notifications after long-running tasks complete. There's a lot in store for you with Wizard 2, and I think you're going to love how your data looks in it.

The scheduled release date for Wizard 2 is January 5, 2021. The easiest way to be notified on launch day is to go ahead and place a pre-order here (no charge):


The product has been approved by Apple, but the pre-order window will give me time to finish up the documentation, make some videos and tutorials, and iron out any remaining bugs.

Thank you for your patience and continued support! I look forward to seeing what everyone here does next year using Wizard 2.

Evan

Malcolm Rains

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Nov 18, 2020, 11:28:08 AM11/18/20
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Am I correct in assuming that I will be able to run Wizard 1 if I also use Wizard 2 at the same time?

Malcolm Rains

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On Nov 18, 2020, at 11:09 AM, Evan Miller <emmi...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello everyone!

If it's been quiet around here for a while, it's because I've been hard at work on improving Wizard. Today I'm excited to announce the fruit of those efforts – an upcoming release called Wizard 2. Wizard 2 will be sold as a separate product on the App Store, and is available for immediate pre-order here:


The key improvements to Wizard 2 include a freshened interface, a brand-new Correlate module, several new importers, and full optimization for Apple's M1 chip. Wizard 2 retains familiar workflows while improving the Wizard's look and feel, and adding dozens of productivity enhancements both small and large. The rest of this email describes the changes in detail, or you can click the link above to view high-resolution screenshots.


Fresh Colors and Controls

<Controls.png>

The Summary and Predict modules now feature larger graphics, more vibrant colors, and more accessible export options. The Raw Data interface is nearly unrecognizable: you can now search and replace, copy and paste, and make rectangular selections similar to Excel. You can build a model from anywhere in the document using the new Model Builder workflow. All modules are now available in an attractive new Dark Mode.


New Correlate Module

<Correlate.png>

One of the most common feature requests I receive is to "see" a correlation matrix before exporting it. So there's a new toolbar button in Wizard 2 called Correlate, and with it you can custom-build a correlation matrix of any size with thumbnail data visualizations in every cell. Scroll and scan through hundreds of scatterplots at a time - Wizard 2 squeezes every drop of performance out of your hardware to bring you an instant overview of your entire data set.


New Importers

Wizard 2 ships with three new data importers:

* The new HTML importer scans web pages for <table> tags and stores the data in a Wizard table. This importer is directly accessible in Safari – so you can actually import data that is behind a log-in wall, or that has been dynamically generated with JavaScript.

<Safari.png>

* The new FileMaker Pro importer is the product of a long effort on my part to reverse engineer the FileMaker format. I'm happy to announce that Wizard 2 will be able to import data from FileMaker databases going all the way back to FileMaker version 7.

* Finally, the new SQL Server connector will import tables from Microsoft SQL Server, including Azure SQL database. This connector complements the existing MySQL and PostgreSQL connectors to help you pull in data wherever it may be found.


Optimized for Apple M1

<M1.png>

Wizard 2 actually began as an effort to move the core regression routines away from OpenCL - the technology used by Wizard since 2012 to estimate models as quickly as possible. OpenCL is officially deprecated by Apple, and will not work on Apple's new M1 chip, which is the heart of the new MacBooks and Mac Mini.

I have some good news for all Wizard customers here: As of today, all Wizard products have moved away from OpenCL. That is, Wizard, Wizard Pro, and Wizard 2 will all function as expected on Apple's new M1 chip.

There will be one key difference: Wizard 2 will be delivered as a Universal Binary, specifically optimized for the M1. This means that if you buy a new Mac with an M1 chip, you can expect up to a 50% speed increase using Wizard 2 compared to the existing Wizard products.


New Pricing Model

One of the challenges of selling software is figuring out how to make a product financially accessible to as many customers as possible. While Wizard is priced extremely competitively compared to most multivariate statistics software, instructors have told me that it is just out of reach for many of their students.

In order to reach as many customers as possible, Wizard 2 is moving to subscriptions. I know many of you don't want to hear that, but the reality is that paid software is a difficult business without a dedicated marketing organization – which I don't have.

To encourage you to give Wizard 2 a try, there will be a significant first year discount for existing customers. Here is the full breakdown, in US dollars:


* Standard subscription: $19.99 / quarter or $49.99 / year

* Upgrading from Wizard: $24.99 in the first year


* Pro subscription: $129.99 / year (includes all Standard features)

* Upgrading from Wizard Pro: $59.99 in the first year


The Pro subscription, as with Wizard Pro, will include file and command support for SAS, SPSS, and Stata. In addition, a Pro subscription will be required to use the SQL connectors, as these are primarily used by commercial customers.

Non-US customers should check the App Store listing for prices specific to their country.

While all new feature development will happen on Wizard 2, Wizard and Wizard Pro will continue to be sold and supported in the App Store, including on Big Sur and Apple M1 hardware. Documents created with Wizard 2 can be opened with Wizard and Wizard Pro – and vice versa. The choice to upgrade to Wizard 2 – or stick with an existing product – is completely up to you.


Final Thoughts

There are many more new features I haven't mentioned, including autosaved documents, all-new icons, a new Column Property inspector, and gentle notifications after long-running tasks complete. There's a lot in store for you with Wizard 2, and I think you're going to love how your data looks in it.

The scheduled release date for Wizard 2 is January 5, 2021. The easiest way to be notified on launch day is to go ahead and place a pre-order here (no charge):


The product has been approved by Apple, but the pre-order window will give me time to finish up the documentation, make some videos and tutorials, and iron out any remaining bugs.

Thank you for your patience and continued support! I look forward to seeing what everyone here does next year using Wizard 2.

Evan

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Evan Miller

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Nov 18, 2020, 11:29:38 AM11/18/20
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Yes! You will be able to run both programs side by side, if desired.

Evan

Malcolm Rains

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Nov 18, 2020, 11:34:37 AM11/18/20
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Good to hear. I really enjoy Wizard, it has been a tremendous help in “seeing” underlying relationships in my data. I will be interested in seeing what Wizard 2 will reveal. 

Malcolm Rains

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On Nov 18, 2020, at 11:29 AM, Evan Miller <emmi...@gmail.com> wrote:

Yes! You will be able to run both programs side by side, if desired.

John Abraham

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Nov 18, 2020, 11:44:02 AM11/18/20
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Hello Evan. The Wizard 2 news is exciting.  

I like paying subscriptions for software I’m using to support developers, but I need to be able to *view my previous work* afterwards without a subscription.  That is, I shouldn’t have to worry about exporting everything from the software the day before the subscription expires!  There are two common ways to allow this: 1) allow the software to open even if the subscription hasn’t been paid, so users can see their previous work (but not change it); and 2) document the file format, or use a common file format, so that it is readable without using the software.

The best solution is both 1) and 2)!.  For example, AutoCad files can be viewed by the AutoCad software even without a license, and documents stored in AutoCad format can also be opened by other software.  One needs to pay the subscription license fee to edit one's AutoCad drawings using AutoCad software. 

Could you look into these options? 

The reality is that people move on in their careers, and can’t be expected to continually pay for software they aren’t using anymore. I am emotionally, legally and professionally attached to my work from 5, 10, 20 and 30 years ago, I need to be able to view what I did in the past for many reasons.  The developers of the software I used 30 years ago are most likely dead or retired. Although I wish you a very long life, I hope I don’t have to email you when you are 80 or 90 years old asking for help to view my forecasts that I made with Wizard 2 back in 2021.  

My worst experience with subscription software was using a platform to host the registration and papers of the conference.  Six months after the conference was over, I could no longer view the information about the attendees nor the sessions that had occurred at the conference.  The author of the software seemed to think this was acceptable. Some important history was lost because I didn’t fully understand the software license. I would not have chosen that product if I’d understood.  

Anyway, I hope this helps you “fine-tune” the product before or shortly after it’s January release.  I promise I will subscribe once you can assure me that I’ll still be able to view my previous work when my subscription inevitably expires some year or decade in the future. 

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On Nov 18, 2020, at 9:09 AM, Evan Miller <emmi...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello everyone!

If it's been quiet around here for a while, it's because I've been hard at work on improving Wizard. Today I'm excited to announce the fruit of those efforts – an upcoming release called Wizard 2. Wizard 2 will be sold as a separate product on the App Store, and is available for immediate pre-order here:


The key improvements to Wizard 2 include a freshened interface, a brand-new Correlate module, several new importers, and full optimization for Apple's M1 chip. Wizard 2 retains familiar workflows while improving the Wizard's look and feel, and adding dozens of productivity enhancements both small and large. The rest of this email describes the changes in detail, or you can click the link above to view high-resolution screenshots.


Fresh Colors and Controls

<Controls.png>

The Summary and Predict modules now feature larger graphics, more vibrant colors, and more accessible export options. The Raw Data interface is nearly unrecognizable: you can now search and replace, copy and paste, and make rectangular selections similar to Excel. You can build a model from anywhere in the document using the new Model Builder workflow. All modules are now available in an attractive new Dark Mode.


New Correlate Module

<Correlate.png>

One of the most common feature requests I receive is to "see" a correlation matrix before exporting it. So there's a new toolbar button in Wizard 2 called Correlate, and with it you can custom-build a correlation matrix of any size with thumbnail data visualizations in every cell. Scroll and scan through hundreds of scatterplots at a time - Wizard 2 squeezes every drop of performance out of your hardware to bring you an instant overview of your entire data set.


New Importers

Wizard 2 ships with three new data importers:

* The new HTML importer scans web pages for <table> tags and stores the data in a Wizard table. This importer is directly accessible in Safari – so you can actually import data that is behind a log-in wall, or that has been dynamically generated with JavaScript.

<Safari.png>

* The new FileMaker Pro importer is the product of a long effort on my part to reverse engineer the FileMaker format. I'm happy to announce that Wizard 2 will be able to import data from FileMaker databases going all the way back to FileMaker version 7.

* Finally, the new SQL Server connector will import tables from Microsoft SQL Server, including Azure SQL database. This connector complements the existing MySQL and PostgreSQL connectors to help you pull in data wherever it may be found.


Optimized for Apple M1

<M1.png>

Wizard 2 actually began as an effort to move the core regression routines away from OpenCL - the technology used by Wizard since 2012 to estimate models as quickly as possible. OpenCL is officially deprecated by Apple, and will not work on Apple's new M1 chip, which is the heart of the new MacBooks and Mac Mini.

I have some good news for all Wizard customers here: As of today, all Wizard products have moved away from OpenCL. That is, Wizard, Wizard Pro, and Wizard 2 will all function as expected on Apple's new M1 chip.

There will be one key difference: Wizard 2 will be delivered as a Universal Binary, specifically optimized for the M1. This means that if you buy a new Mac with an M1 chip, you can expect up to a 50% speed increase using Wizard 2 compared to the existing Wizard products.


New Pricing Model

One of the challenges of selling software is figuring out how to make a product financially accessible to as many customers as possible. While Wizard is priced extremely competitively compared to most multivariate statistics software, instructors have told me that it is just out of reach for many of their students.

In order to reach as many customers as possible, Wizard 2 is moving to subscriptions. I know many of you don't want to hear that, but the reality is that paid software is a difficult business without a dedicated marketing organization – which I don't have.

To encourage you to give Wizard 2 a try, there will be a significant first year discount for existing customers. Here is the full breakdown, in US dollars:


* Standard subscription: $19.99 / quarter or $49.99 / year

* Upgrading from Wizard: $24.99 in the first year


* Pro subscription: $129.99 / year (includes all Standard features)

* Upgrading from Wizard Pro: $59.99 in the first year


The Pro subscription, as with Wizard Pro, will include file and command support for SAS, SPSS, and Stata. In addition, a Pro subscription will be required to use the SQL connectors, as these are primarily used by commercial customers.

Non-US customers should check the App Store listing for prices specific to their country.

While all new feature development will happen on Wizard 2, Wizard and Wizard Pro will continue to be sold and supported in the App Store, including on Big Sur and Apple M1 hardware. Documents created with Wizard 2 can be opened with Wizard and Wizard Pro – and vice versa. The choice to upgrade to Wizard 2 – or stick with an existing product – is completely up to you.


Final Thoughts

There are many more new features I haven't mentioned, including autosaved documents, all-new icons, a new Column Property inspector, and gentle notifications after long-running tasks complete. There's a lot in store for you with Wizard 2, and I think you're going to love how your data looks in it.

The scheduled release date for Wizard 2 is January 5, 2021. The easiest way to be notified on launch day is to go ahead and place a pre-order here (no charge):


The product has been approved by Apple, but the pre-order window will give me time to finish up the documentation, make some videos and tutorials, and iron out any remaining bugs.

Thank you for your patience and continued support! I look forward to seeing what everyone here does next year using Wizard 2.

Evan

Andrew Wakelin

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Nov 18, 2020, 12:09:17 PM11/18/20
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That’s great news Evan,  I’ve pre-ordered. 

Will the purchase  process know I’m an existing Wizard user and charge the $24.99 introductory rate in January?  

And does upgrading mean “losing“ the $75 version, or can I both upgrade at $24.99 and retain the existing version too? 

Cheers,

Andrew

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On 18 Nov 2020, at 16:09, Evan Miller <emmi...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello everyone!

If it's been quiet around here for a while, it's because I've been hard at work on improving Wizard. Today I'm excited to announce the fruit of those efforts – an upcoming release called Wizard 2. Wizard 2 will be sold as a separate product on the App Store, and is available for immediate pre-order here:


The key improvements to Wizard 2 include a freshened interface, a brand-new Correlate module, several new importers, and full optimization for Apple's M1 chip. Wizard 2 retains familiar workflows while improving the Wizard's look and feel, and adding dozens of productivity enhancements both small and large. The rest of this email describes the changes in detail, or you can click the link above to view high-resolution screenshots.


Fresh Colors and Controls

<Controls.png>

The Summary and Predict modules now feature larger graphics, more vibrant colors, and more accessible export options. The Raw Data interface is nearly unrecognizable: you can now search and replace, copy and paste, and make rectangular selections similar to Excel. You can build a model from anywhere in the document using the new Model Builder workflow. All modules are now available in an attractive new Dark Mode.


New Correlate Module

<Correlate.png>

One of the most common feature requests I receive is to "see" a correlation matrix before exporting it. So there's a new toolbar button in Wizard 2 called Correlate, and with it you can custom-build a correlation matrix of any size with thumbnail data visualizations in every cell. Scroll and scan through hundreds of scatterplots at a time - Wizard 2 squeezes every drop of performance out of your hardware to bring you an instant overview of your entire data set.


New Importers

Wizard 2 ships with three new data importers:

* The new HTML importer scans web pages for <table> tags and stores the data in a Wizard table. This importer is directly accessible in Safari – so you can actually import data that is behind a log-in wall, or that has been dynamically generated with JavaScript.

<Safari.png>

* The new FileMaker Pro importer is the product of a long effort on my part to reverse engineer the FileMaker format. I'm happy to announce that Wizard 2 will be able to import data from FileMaker databases going all the way back to FileMaker version 7.

* Finally, the new SQL Server connector will import tables from Microsoft SQL Server, including Azure SQL database. This connector complements the existing MySQL and PostgreSQL connectors to help you pull in data wherever it may be found.


Optimized for Apple M1

<M1.png>

Wizard 2 actually began as an effort to move the core regression routines away from OpenCL - the technology used by Wizard since 2012 to estimate models as quickly as possible. OpenCL is officially deprecated by Apple, and will not work on Apple's new M1 chip, which is the heart of the new MacBooks and Mac Mini.

I have some good news for all Wizard customers here: As of today, all Wizard products have moved away from OpenCL. That is, Wizard, Wizard Pro, and Wizard 2 will all function as expected on Apple's new M1 chip.

There will be one key difference: Wizard 2 will be delivered as a Universal Binary, specifically optimized for the M1. This means that if you buy a new Mac with an M1 chip, you can expect up to a 50% speed increase using Wizard 2 compared to the existing Wizard products.


New Pricing Model

One of the challenges of selling software is figuring out how to make a product financially accessible to as many customers as possible. While Wizard is priced extremely competitively compared to most multivariate statistics software, instructors have told me that it is just out of reach for many of their students.

In order to reach as many customers as possible, Wizard 2 is moving to subscriptions. I know many of you don't want to hear that, but the reality is that paid software is a difficult business without a dedicated marketing organization – which I don't have.

To encourage you to give Wizard 2 a try, there will be a significant first year discount for existing customers. Here is the full breakdown, in US dollars:


* Standard subscription: $19.99 / quarter or $49.99 / year

* Upgrading from Wizard: $24.99 in the first year


* Pro subscription: $129.99 / year (includes all Standard features)

* Upgrading from Wizard Pro: $59.99 in the first year


The Pro subscription, as with Wizard Pro, will include file and command support for SAS, SPSS, and Stata. In addition, a Pro subscription will be required to use the SQL connectors, as these are primarily used by commercial customers.

Non-US customers should check the App Store listing for prices specific to their country.

While all new feature development will happen on Wizard 2, Wizard and Wizard Pro will continue to be sold and supported in the App Store, including on Big Sur and Apple M1 hardware. Documents created with Wizard 2 can be opened with Wizard and Wizard Pro – and vice versa. The choice to upgrade to Wizard 2 – or stick with an existing product – is completely up to you.


Final Thoughts

There are many more new features I haven't mentioned, including autosaved documents, all-new icons, a new Column Property inspector, and gentle notifications after long-running tasks complete. There's a lot in store for you with Wizard 2, and I think you're going to love how your data looks in it.

The scheduled release date for Wizard 2 is January 5, 2021. The easiest way to be notified on launch day is to go ahead and place a pre-order here (no charge):


The product has been approved by Apple, but the pre-order window will give me time to finish up the documentation, make some videos and tutorials, and iron out any remaining bugs.

Thank you for your patience and continued support! I look forward to seeing what everyone here does next year using Wizard 2.

Evan

Evan Miller

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Nov 18, 2020, 12:21:16 PM11/18/20
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Hi Andrew

There will be on-screen instructions for unlocking the $24.99 introductory rate. You will also get to keep your existing $75 purchase, so there's no risk in upgrading.

Evan


Evan Miller

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Nov 18, 2020, 12:23:19 PM11/18/20
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Thanks for the thoughtful email John. The Wizard 2 document format is 100% compatible with Wizard / Wizard Pro, so you can use the original products as "viewers", if you'd like.

If the compatibility situation changes, I will look into other options, including some kind of long-term Trial / Viewer mode.

Evan

John Abraham

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Thanks Evan.  That's great!  I pre-ordered.  I'll also explore ways to export my work into PDF files and R files, so that decades from now my work can still be inspected even without using any version of Wizard. 

Out of curiosity, what did you use instead of OpenCL?  Are you still able to use the processing power of the graphics card?  I have a spatial economic simulation and have yet to find a good way to use graphics card processing. 

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Evan Miller

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Nov 22, 2020, 9:06:12 PM11/22/20
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Hi John,

The OpenCL engine has always stayed on the CPU – I originally wanted to run regressions on the GPU, but the memory limits and limited support for double precision left me in the cold. But I was able to take advantage of OpenCL's on-the-fly CPU vectorization, which (in theory) can take advantage of AVX2, and AVX-512 on the Mac Pro, for greater speed.

Since that's all going away, I now pre-compile for SSE2, and for NEON on the M1, using Apple's SIMD library. This ends up being pretty much as fast as the AVX instructions, if not faster, from my testing. Intel's chips actually slow down the core's clock speed when AVX instructions are encountered, so they're much less beneficial in reality than the marketing materials indicate. Another reason I'm excited that Apple is developing their own silicon!

There are a couple of places in the new Wizard 2 code that use assembler intrinsics to squeeze out a few more drops of performance. This was needed to support interactivity in the new Correlate module with millions of rows per table. I think you'll be impressed with the result!

Incidentally, OpenCL on the GPU remains supported by Apple, for now. In my other app (Magic Maps 2), I decided to port the single-precision code from OpenCL to Metal, and the results were highly satisfactory. Metal can be used for traditional shading as well as general computation.

Thanks for pre-ordering! The preliminary numbers are looking very good.

Evan

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