Scanned Galen Govier decoding books??
Plot Division
Someone who got Galen Goviers decoding books scanned??
I'm looking for the 1966-68 type.
Regards
Eugene
GLIPSS
Eugene
Why dont you just buy one. Will 10 bucks
kill you.
Greg Songer
anybody else's book online is just like walking into the store and not
paying.
GS
97 Ram
John Hamm
>
> >Hi,
> >Someone who got Galen Goviers decoding books scanned??
> >I'm looking for the 1966-68 type.
> >Regards
> >Eugene
>
> Why dont you just buy one. Will 10 bucks
> kill you.
Kent G. Olsen
>
> >Hi,
> >Someone who got Galen Goviers decoding books scanned??
> >I'm looking for the 1966-68 type.
> >Regards
> >Eugene
>
> Eugene
> Why dont you just buy one. Will 10 bucks
> kill you.
Most of the Mopar mags have them advertised. They are $15 each now!
--
Kent G. Olsen - Minnesota
"MoPar Spoken Here"
http://www.pclink.com/sublime
'70 Challenger R/T Super Trak Pak
'64 Valiant 200, 4 door, /6
Justa Writer
>
> Sorry guys,
> I do everything thru the net (not rallying my Mopars), so the question arose
> when I needed some quick help for some codes.
Plot,
Your intentions notwithstanding, what you requested was illegal. In
spite of the fact that it's a common practice. One page or a hundred, if
it's copyrighted you shouldn't copy it for someone else to use.
I won't bore you with the reasons why literary work holds just as much
value to the author as the hours spent developing and implementing good
engine building practices do to a good mechanic. As a freelance writer,
engine builder and electronics circuits designer, I'm perplexed by the
growing attitude, fostered greatly by the Internet, I feel, that all
information should be free and readily available. This spoken by somone
who just recently spent six months gathering information and assembling
it into a technical reference book. I'm as generous as most, more than
some. But I can't invest that sort of time and work into a charity
project. If my publisher couldn't sell the book, they couldn't have paid
me to write it. Right?
Sermon finished :-)
JAW
MOPOWER2YA
Route 1 Box 322K, DEPT. HPM
Prairie du Chien, WI 53821
(608) 326-6346 / 9 - 5
(608) 326-8061 Fax
gvgo...@mhtc.net
Books are $15.00 each
or
8 for $80.00
includes priority Mail Delivery
Sjkk143
you can help your other friend find out what he needs to know.
Now I do think this guy should buy his own book instead of asking someone to
scan it for him. But he's not ripping anyone off.
Stoney
>What you are asking is illegal. INMO, ripping off a free copy of his or
>anybody else's book online is just like walking into the store and not
>paying.
>
>GS
>97 Ram
>
Travis and Cathy
the cops! <grin> ;)
Travis..
Plot Division
I do everything thru the net (not rallying my Mopars), so the question arose
when I needed some quick help for some codes.
web?
The codes are there allright, but not the actual decoding. So has this
fella Galen some kind of copyright from chrysler to decode this stuff
forever and ever??
Eugene
rose...@pilot.msu.edu
Justa Writer <Ju...@Here.com> wrote:
> Plot,
> Your intentions notwithstanding, what you requested was illegal. In
> spite of the fact that it's a common practice. One page or a hundred, if
> it's copyrighted you shouldn't copy it for someone else to use.
<snip>
I agree with what you are saying 100%. However, I'd like to add to this.
1) Plot should tell us what he needs, and someone with the source or knowledge
can help him.
2) While Galen's books are copyrighted, the information is not. Galen did not
create the information and does not own it. The info came from Chrysler. He
is just making a living off of it. I know a guy who has all the old paperwork
that Galen has since his father worked at Lynch Road. Scanning Galen's book
would be wrong, but putting codes over the Net is not.
D. Rosenberg
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Sjkk143
Greg Songer
at all with that. Have seen postings from others asking what motor does
this casting number head fit, or what does that code on a fender tag
mean - that is one of the joys of newsgroups like this, picking brains
from all over the world. To ask for a scanned copy of the entire thing,
though, is a different matter. The dude who wrote it does not have
exclusive rights to the info in the book, but he took the time and money
to put it all in a nice convenient format, pay somebody to publish it,
pay for ads to sell it, etc.
I'll shut up now.
GS
Sjkk143 wrote:
>
> Get real GS. It's like asking your friend down the road to use his book so
> you can help your other friend find out what he needs to know.
> Now I do think this guy should buy his own book instead of asking someone to
> scan it for him. But he's not ripping anyone off.
>
> Stoney
>
> >What you are asking is illegal. INMO, ripping off a free copy of his or
> >anybody else's book online is just like walking into the store and not
> >paying.
> >
Plot Division
O.K to some extent I agree with you. But according to this rule Aristotele
should still be in arabic. (brought to western civilisation from spies in
arabic libraries during the medieval)You see, violation of things like
copyrights could in fact benefit everyone. Netscape lost millions of surfers
to Microsoft just because of the fact that Explorer is free and Netscape
wasn't.
You start a website letting Mopar people decoding their vehicles on line, free
and you're soon a millionaire from the ads. (At least you'll do more money
than selling the books).
It has to do with accessibility. I actually tried to buy this decoding book
from amazon or even by searching the whole web for it and alas, it was not at
all to be found. Let the codes be free!
/Eugene
>Plot,
>Your intentions notwithstanding, what you requested was illegal. In
>spite of the fact that it's a common practice. One page or a hundred, if
>it's copyrighted you shouldn't copy it for someone else to use.
>
Justa Writer
>
> It has to do with accessibility. I actually tried to buy this decoding book
> from amazon or even by searching the whole web for it and alas, it was not at
> all to be found. Let the codes be free!
> /Eugene
No problem with that argument. If someone wants to put up a page with
every speck of Mopar info known to mankind, I'll be first to cheer them
on :-)
As long as they don't copy and paste from someone else's work. I know,
it's a thin line, and most people cross it innocently.
To give you an example, a fellow stated on a mailing list that he'd
discovered a good article on how to build an auto-related electronic
project and named the publication. He then invited readers to check his
web site for more info. I did, and found the entire article scanned and
posted!
I sent him an email asking (tongue-in-cheek) how he so easily obtained
permission to reproduce a one-month-old mag article. He never replied
:-)
Mopar to ya,
JAW
John Hamm
>
> In article <369B8F...@Here.com>, Justa Writer <Ju...@Here.com> wrote:
>
>
> O.K to some extent I agree with you. But according to this rule Aristotele
> should still be in arabic. (brought to western civilisation from spies in
> arabic libraries during the medieval)You see, violation of things like
> copyrights could in fact benefit everyone. Netscape lost millions of surfers
> to Microsoft just because of the fact that Explorer is free and Netscape
> wasn't.
> You start a website letting Mopar people decoding their vehicles on line, free
> and you're soon a millionaire from the ads. (At least you'll do more money
> than selling the books).
> from amazon or even by searching the whole web for it and alas, it was not at
> all to be found. Let the codes be free!
> /Eugene
>
> >Your intentions notwithstanding, what you requested was illegal. In
> >spite of the fact that it's a common practice. One page or a hundred, if
> >it's copyrighted you shouldn't copy it for someone else to use.
> >
> >I won't bore you with the reasons why literary work holds just as much
> >value to the author as the hours spent developing and implementing good
> >engine building practices do to a good mechanic. As a freelance writer,
> >engine builder and electronics circuits designer, I'm perplexed by the
> >growing attitude, fostered greatly by the Internet, I feel, that all
> >information should be free and readily available. This spoken by somone
> >who just recently spent six months gathering information and assembling
> >it into a technical reference book. I'm as generous as most, more than
> >some. But I can't invest that sort of time and work into a charity
> >project. If my publisher couldn't sell the book, they couldn't have paid
> >me to write it. Right?
> >
> >Sermon finished :-)
> >
> >JAW
> >
Actually the codes are for free from numerous web sources. If you do
the research you can sell or give your research data away. That's your
option. BUT scaning and posting of copyrighted material is not legal.
Plot Division
>
>Actually the codes are for free from numerous web sources. If you do
>the research you can sell or give your research data away. That's your
>option. BUT scaning and posting of copyrighted material is not legal.
I would love to put an end to this infected issue, but I just wanted to say
that the codes are there and for free, but no such thing as a decoder.
Tell me where I could find them please!
Show me where you translate the code on the fender tag say "a" with a
matching #"9", to be a specific three digit code?
I tell you, nowhere!
Thanks
/Eugene
(And don't worry, I'll order a copy from Govier anyway)
John Hamm
There's one.
Enter your code and it spits out what the code covers.
There's more.
Plot Division
>Plot Division wrote:
>> I would love to put an end to this infected issue, but I just wanted to say
>> that the codes are there and for free, but no such thing as a decoder.
>> Tell me where I could find them please!
>> Show me where you translate the code on the fender tag say "a" with a
>> matching #"9", to be a specific three digit code?
>> I tell you, nowhere!
>> Thanks
>> /Eugene
>>
>> (And don't worry, I'll order a copy from Govier anyway)
>http://www.fortunecity.com/silverstone/silver/85/charger/decoder2.html
>There's one.
>Enter your code and it spits out what the code covers.
>There's more.
This address you proposed was one among thousands of decoding devices
for ´69 and up Mopars. These codes doesn't need any "decoding"
whatsoever, they're pretty strait and easy to read as they are.
But try to find something for a 68 mop and I would be happy.
/Eugene