Re: [witches and wiccans and pagans] idk what to do AND christmas

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spike q

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Dec 6, 2009, 9:04:16 PM12/6/09
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Hullo,

re: christmas, yup not a witchy concept per se (as some of us celebrate solstice and perhaps others of us celebrate other stuff)  yet

christmas has become so commercialized these days yet

I think we should let the christians have christmas and

actually there are a few witches who are christian witches (regardless of how we interpret some stuff in the christians' holy books)

and yeah some satanists are witches too.

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re: RavenFire dilemma,

There is nothing inherent in the pagan/witchy/wiccan/whatever ways of being that require us to help others who do not want to help themselves.

If she is wanting to return to her bad situation and SHE IS AN ADULT there is nothing you can do.  (if she is not an adult, there is even less that you can do).

If you love her and she loves you, then perhaps the two of you can develop a healthier option for
both of you.

If you do not love her and/or she does not love you, then perhaps it is time to let her go what she has to do.

if it is a domestic violence/abuse/whatever sort of thing, giving her the phone numbers of the hotlines in your area and her area for domestic violence might be a good thing.

If is just one of those omgz my relatives/roommate/etc is a blanken ahole, well there is nothing for that.

Prayer is ok yet there is also something called a brain which is encased within our heads.
USE YOURS even if others around you are not using theirs.

You are not required to become homeless or not have your name on the rental agreement for the sake of someone else.

And remember, you cannot want something for someone more than they want it for themselves.

love,
spike





Stevenmichael Collett

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Dec 8, 2009, 1:56:17 PM12/8/09
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oh why are you always right Spike? There times when I wish I had your
wisdom. Maybe I knew that all along but I just didnt want to admit it.
Or do it.

spike q

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Dec 20, 2009, 12:42:23 AM12/20/09
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Ya know there are plenty of people around willing to
"beat us up"
so we don't gotta do that to ourselves.

It is what it is.
It takes time and hard work to figure out why we
(our selves) make the choices we do and have
the attraction (to a "type" as far as personality
of others) that we do.

take care of YOU Ravenfire
because YOU are who YOU will
have left when others leave and
when you wake up at 3 a.m.

Hard times prevail.
Dad's been up for a visit and
in spite of my not being ready
for him to deteriorate (dementia)
and die, well my opinion has
not been asked about these things.

At any rate, I am glad to have him when
he does come up and I am glad that
I can ease a bit of his pain and
have a welcoming place for him where
he is wanted and loved.

He is the best dad I could have had
and I have to deal with what is.
I deal with the way things are and
that helps me.

love,
spike

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Stevenmichael Collett

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Dec 23, 2009, 2:46:46 PM12/23/09
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Sorry to hear about that Spike. Thing here are looking up not much but
a little.

spike q

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Dec 28, 2009, 6:09:04 PM12/28/09
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Going to see dad and stepmum tomorow.  Will spend some time with Dad and
then we are taking them both out to dinner.
He called Sunday to check when we are coming down (and repeated the info several
times-- I guess he remembers me telling him to "rehearse" the info that way so it
gets shoved into long-term memory when the st fails).

I called his wife today and she tried to tell me there was going to be a snowstorm there
tomorrow.
I checked the internet several weather sites and the short answer is NOPE.
So I called her back yes we are coming anyways.
Then Dad called me to see when we are coming.

Stepmum says her wknds are better for visiting but
I feel compelled to go tomorrow as I do not know how much time he has left.
He refuses all medicine for all of the conditions he has.
And has refused the brain scans in order to find out which type of dementia
it is.

Already he is at the stage where one cannot ask "what did you have for dinner?"
or "what are you having for lunch?"
Instead it is better to ask "how was dinner last night?" or "Hey I bet the lunch she is
making smells really good."

I will miss him forever when he goes.
IF he is lucky, he will die in his sleep before the real misery sets in.
spike

Stevenmichael Collett

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Dec 28, 2009, 11:16:05 PM12/28/09
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Hey I am really sorry to hear that Spike, we've been friends for a
long time you have helped me through real bad times if there is
anything i can do for you just let me know, and when i get my phone
hooked up i will give you the number so you can call mee if ya want.

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spike q

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Jan 3, 2010, 11:11:40 AM1/3/10
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Sure I'd love to give ya a call.
Wife was sick during our time down there.
Either she was faking or she was really sick.
She says doc has ordered a chest xray.
I hope her lung cancer hasn't come back.

A few years ago, she was dx with lung cancer
and "something happened."
Meaning, I've heard several versions from dad
(since his memory is going, we get various
 accounts about the same events).

At any rate she cancer-free for several years.
I sure hope she isn't going to sicken and die.

And for the folks who will ask now if she smokes
or had ever smoked cigarettes:
There are four lung cancers.
Three of them are caused by smoking.
They are not automatically assumed to be terminal.
The fourth kind-- small oat cell carcinoma-- is
always 100% fatal and
IS NOT CAUSED BY SMOKING.
(Radon may actually be a factor in that kind).

spijke
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