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BERT

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Mar 29, 2020, 3:12:39 PM3/29/20
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what does/where?

BERT

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Mar 29, 2020, 3:14:27 PM3/29/20
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last week you gave us something to click into

In a message dated 3/29/2020 3:12:40 PM Eastern Standard Time, wisdom...@googlegroups.com writes:

what does/where?

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Rhona Fiore

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Mar 29, 2020, 3:14:47 PM3/29/20
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Everyone please use zoom.com 
Join meeting

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BERT

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Mar 29, 2020, 3:15:37 PM3/29/20
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where is zoom.com

Elektra Sipars

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Mar 29, 2020, 3:21:27 PM3/29/20
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Elektra Sipars is inviting you to a scheduled Zoom meeting.

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Rhona Fiore

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Mar 29, 2020, 3:54:28 PM3/29/20
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Ladies dial in again 

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Rhona Fiore

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Mar 29, 2020, 4:36:11 PM3/29/20
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I just realized my screw up 

Elektra set these calls up for us and I thought I had 

That’s why everyone was having trouble 

Her log in number is different from mine 

We will get this flat for next week and likely use Elektra’s zoom 

Sorry for the senior moment 

Rhona 

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Elektra Sipars

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Mar 29, 2020, 4:42:15 PM3/29/20
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I will send the copy of the link out on Sunday mor if - I’ll put a reminder in my phone to do so 

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On Mar 29, 2020, at 4:36 PM, 'Rhona Fiore' via Wisdom Women <wisdom...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

I just realized my screw up 

doreen mullarney

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Mar 29, 2020, 5:05:12 PM3/29/20
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thanks Elektra Emoji


BERT

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Mar 30, 2020, 11:52:41 AM3/30/20
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Girls
Good Morning
I just got bounced off the call with David Cunningham....grrrr, me and technology.
First I want to thank Rhona, Diane  and Stacey for working with me yesterday, I appreciate your effort and really without you I wouldnt have been on any part of the call, so thank you for your generous spirit and willingness to hang in there with me.
The purpose of my writing? I was not happy with our call yesterday. To me, it started out  with what's happening around the country...a bit over exageration, a bit over blown, a bit of hysteria. And I called in to get grounded, to be with everyone to calm down and to reconnect to have transformation be present. It was not that. When I was sharing stats from doctors, when I was sharing medical links to go to I was met with some nasty interactions like 1) I knew nothing and 2)that  I didnt want to hear how you all were doing.
OF COURSE I want to hear what';s happening in your lives ...absolutely. Look although I might not go back the years most of you do, I've been a part of this group for enough years to love you all and be committed to you each. And the abrupt way 2 of you quickly interrupted me and shut me down was mean spirited and hurtful. And for me? I didnt recover myself for the rest of the call. I turned in for this call yesterday to hear what's happening/how you and your friends and family are/AND for a breathe of transformation....
I had documentated medical information to share with you all, not my opinion...DOCTORS evidence and facts.
A way for us to better hold much of the information that is being told to us, to be absolutley responsible and appropriate...cautious,  isolate,  wash our hands AND yet to not get swept up in the often inaccurate over exagerrated reporting.
My point here? You could have been  committed in hanging on to your point of view and not even  willing to HEAR what I said and even  for yourself do the paper trail...I have no issue with that.
Im communicating about how you spoke to me....how you dismissed me AND since yesterday neither of you  cleaned anything up.......AND the others on the call were silent. My choices were...fuck you all and I'm done with the wisdom women or speak up and be in communication. Thanks to Landmark I am choosing the high road and am writing. I do love you all and feel blessed to call you my friends.
My request? In the future OF COURSE I'm open to you disagreeing with whatever I say...AND in the future please interact with respect and love AND when you screw up/clean it up...
I send you hugs ( from afar lol) and now? I've let it go...
Bert

Diane Farris

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Mar 30, 2020, 12:08:14 PM3/30/20
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Sorry you took it that way, Bert. Our call is 40 minutes and it gets automatically shut off. I had no room for extraneous talk, regardless of content. I was watching the clock and yes I was aggravated because I hadn't gotten to share yet and I felt you interrupted several people.

For me, the call is a check in personally. We all have done the work. We all have our tools. I feel like it's a check in on the what's so. We may request or not request coaching, but really I just want to see our faces and connect. You have your truth of information, as do I and all of our views and sources may not be the same.

Whatever gets you through.

Love
Diane

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Elektra Sipars

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Mar 30, 2020, 1:52:36 PM3/30/20
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Ladies,
First, Diane in case you did not know our call is not 40 minute, I scheduled it for 2 hours and we are using my account because I pay for it so the call can go well over the 40 minutes if needed. We created it for an hour but no one needs to get off before 5 pm. 
Second  - Rhona I know you asked to not have this kind of communication on this thread so I am not going to honor that request at this point in hopes my share makes a difference. However I invite people to not respond here and maybe respond individually so as not to start a huge thread. I honestly don't engage that often so I hope you can work with this communication.

I was not on the call  and have spoken to no one about it but I am speaking  from the heart about what I see happening to people in their communications largely I believe because of the circumstances.  And I know this group and we all are very strong minded - and we all need to be responsible for that way of being.  If we are incomplete we should get on the phone and have a conversation - inside of being complete - which means being responsible on our end for our reaction or what did not work and then communicate without making wrong.  Remember we are all stressed we are all worried we are all dealing with a multitude of emotions and feelings and fears not to mention the massive amount of uncertainty about the future.  We likely are not at our best at this time when it comes to communicating no matter how well trained we may think we are. And maybe I am just speaking for myself but this is what I have seen and experienced and who I have been at times.  I think all there is maybe - is to be responsible for all of that stuff we are dealing with as we communicate with one another and always remember to be compassionate and bring love which was a founding principle of this group. 

Maybe we could lovingly create some ground rules for the calls like no advice or coaching unless asked or maybe time limits on sharing. Or maybe no interrupting each other just waiting till each person finishes sharing before we add anything or ask a question. As I said I will send reminders Sunday morning.

From David Cunningham - the definition of a problem is something that we say should not be that way. There are no problems in the world  - there are only problems when we say it should not be.  If we could just be with life the way that it is then life is just how it is not a problem, and what is so is all there is to deal with. 

What I got from this  - life is empty and meaningless and its empty and meaningless that its empty and meaningless and I think I forget this way too often. Being that nothing is wrong for myself takes everything at a time where I could really say with evidence and validity everything is wrong. I also find strength in the book the 4 agreements right now.  I have the cards from the book and the one I pulled today was from the agreement "Don't Make Assumptions" it said: "Communicate with Clarity: Communicate with others as clearly as you can to avoid misunderstandings, sadness, and drama. If all human beings would communicate with impeccability of the word, all of our relationships would change. There would be no wars, no violence , no misunderstandings." Definitely not who I have been being.

Personally if I were to bring meaning to this I think the universe is providing us with a great opportunity to reassess and evaluate life, or maybe God wanted us all to slow down and love each other again. If I am going to make it mean something that's what I am making it mean.  I  have been relying on the tools of Landmark Werner's teachings, yoga and meditations and things like The 4 Agreements every minute of every day just to get through and not feel like the world is coming to an end and that the suffering of others at this time will at some point do some good. 

Love you all very much and very grateful for all of you and the lessons you have all taught me over the years. 
Elektra 


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Diane Farris

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Mar 30, 2020, 2:21:49 PM3/30/20
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Thanks Elektra

Yesterday we were in Rhonas account which was 40 minutes 

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Stacey Borden

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Mar 30, 2020, 2:22:22 PM3/30/20
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Well said Elektra!  The possibility is that who I am is peace and calm for everyone!

Love you all!
Stacey

BERT

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Mar 30, 2020, 2:22:35 PM3/30/20
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Di
I lost your number...Bert

BERT

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Mar 30, 2020, 2:24:41 PM3/30/20
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The possibility I am is for truth, certainty AND friendship & love
Bert 😍

doreen mullarney

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Mar 30, 2020, 3:12:53 PM3/30/20
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well said Elektra.  Emoji

Maybe we could lovingly create some ground rules for the calls like no advice or coaching unless asked or maybe time limits on sharing. Or maybe no interrupting each other just waiting till each person finishes sharing before we add anything or ask a question. As I said I will send reminders Sunday morning.

In regards to the above paragraph, I would love to create with everyone the goals of this zoom gathering.  With the group consensus of the goals we create, then we can all chose whether or not to participate.  I love you all and would love to continue this as support for each other.

Love 
Doreen


Rhona Fiore

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Mar 30, 2020, 3:21:13 PM3/30/20
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Ditto Doreen 
Just read your reply 
I think we are getting on the “same page”

Rhona

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doreen mullarney

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Mar 30, 2020, 3:30:29 PM3/30/20
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hugs and kisses for everyone.



BERT

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Mar 30, 2020, 3:43:50 PM3/30/20
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yes I totally agree
and I love the idea of timed shares, at least for now...
Bert

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Mar 30, 2020, 3:44:17 PM3/30/20
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