My Computer Fps Test
Melanie Council
The problem is that once i try to run RealBench stress test it makes my CPU usage go up as expected but once it hits really high numbers my PC just freezes for a second or two (unable to move the mouse or anything like that). Plus while i was running those tests and CPU was trying to overclock itself with Intel Boost It got to 4.5Ghz and stayed there pretty solidly , although running RealBench 2.43 made some crashes and applications stopped responding in addition to the occasional freezes.
I checked temperatures and they also seem to be a bit odd , even when just starting up games , before even getting to serious processing power needs it already jumps up to 75C from 40C and the moment i close the game It'd drop back down to 40C in a few seconds??
Also it's worth noting that I have tried running Intel CPU Diagnostics test and my CPU seemed to pass but the same issue happened where it would freeze as i was running the test very often (Multiple freezes throughout the test) Just about the same as it happened running Realbench.
As to the temps. Anything under 100C has been deemed OK by intel. As to the rapid temp increase/decrease : the sensors on these chips have been upgraded to receive a reading every 1/4 seconds and on top of that they are located on the DIE which will shift in temperature almost instantly due to increase/decreases in voltage. Also remember the DIE on these chips is very small so there is not much surface area to heat up or to transfer heat to your block.
All that being said I would try to put your voltage on AUTO and see what results you get from those same tests. If on auto you are still seeing issues I would report back. A Bios update wouldn't hurt either.
Hey TGrable , when i said adaptive mode i meant Auto mode , it's the default setting for voltage on my cpu. and i doubt it's not getting enough voltage since it usually drives it between 1.2-1.34 according to HWmonitor. though whats weird to me is that the CPUTIN sensor (which is apparently the CPU temp sensor from the motherboard shows slow increments every time it refreshes as i start running a benchmark and it locks around 70C after a while without moving , whereas on the very MILLISECOND I press to start a benchmark or a stress test , the CPU package sensor goes INSTANTLY to 90C (90C is an example of prime95 test)
Watch in the video the CPUTIN Sensor that is the sensor of the CPU provided by the motherboard how it changes temperature in a much more logical way whereas the CPU package sensor goes 40 degress + and then 40 degrees - In 0 time.
I should also mention that because my fans are being controller by the CPU package sensor that means that they go extremely high on RPM when the benchmark is running but as soon as i stop it , it would go to a low RPM which doesn't make sense to me.
Now lets assume that the CPUTIN sensor is a good indicator and the CPU package one is faulty , that means that when my cpu temp rises slowly according to CPUTIN and settles around 70C , it stays there a long time after i finish the stress test just because the fans have already went back to low rpms and barely help cooling it down since the CPU package sensor is lying (at least that's what i think) and claims that the cpu is already cool.
The situation with the fan speed while running the benchmark is completely fine, remember that you are running a stress test which is going to stress the processor, and the processor will need the fan to cool down; therefore, the RPM will increase.
There is no point in lowering those tests to minimal since what I'm trying to achieve is loading my CPU to stress test it and see how it reacts (Apparently looking at the occasional freezes it isn't very stable)
I know the CPU temp makes my fans increase their RPM i set the fan curve to my liking though i'll be honest with you , It seems as if having my fans spinning really fast doesn't change anything about the CPU temp. I still feel like the reading is just false which is making the fans speed up for nothing.
Also during the test of IPDT I noticed that no parts of the test made my Pc Freeze for a few seconds except for the CPU Load part , which makes sense considering the fact that many other CPU Stress tests made my computer freeze as well.
The statement you linked me to basically told me to not overclock , alright i got that and i didn't , everything's at its default settings but it did not mention anything about my problem , I'm saying my CPU temps change from 40C to 90C in less than a millisecond.. The moment i start Prime95 for example to load my CPU intentionally it would climb to 90C in NO TIME , You can watch the video i linked above to see what i mean.. This does not make sense to me.. Are you sure it's supposed to behave this way? as soon as i stop a process it just makes all the heat that was there a moment ago disappear right away? it's like my fans and cooling system's doing nothing at all cause on a click of a button all the heat disappears according to the sensor.
At this point you can either wait for the Intel Rep to follow up with you and hopefully provide additional information. If you are wanting to just replace the CPU and give that a try you can also contact Intel about an RMA.
/thread/114547 SleVeran, I would like to know if there is a chance to test different RAM? You can try a different brand that complies with the following DDR4-2133/2400, DDR3L-1333/1600 @ 1.35V. This for testing purposes because at this stage it seems like the replacement should be the next step.
Next i figured that those freezes show instability of the processor so i figured maybe the voltage my processor is getting from AUTO mode on my motherboard is not good enough to run the intel boost clock of 4.5Ghz , So what i did is try to set my clock at 4.5Ghz by changing the multiplier to 45 and then run realbench , as long as I got freezes i would go back to the bios and feed it with a bit more voltage , i found out that 1.28 wasn't really stable so i bumped the voltage to 1.3V and i noticed that there were no more freezes ( i didn't test for a very long time though the freezes usually come in after a few seconds into the test and i waited a few minutes with no freezes in the horizon seen i felt quite good ). i changed the voltage back to adaptive mode and i assume that no longer is my chip unstable , I'm assuming for now it's just a problem with the motherboard Automatic voltage mode working with Intel Boost clock.
/thread/114547 SleVeran, this information definitely changes this situation. On the default settings there should not be a freezing behavior, so based on this I agree with your conclusion. What are the chances of getting in touch with MSI and share this? It would be helpful if their support can comment on this voltage matter.
I do not want to say my conclusion is absolute for now , I'll find a time in the next couple of days to run a long stress test since a few minutes of a stress test can't guarantee the problem has been solved though it does look better for now.
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That would be a safe assumption, but I would start by having the PSU plugged into the motherboard and unplug everything like hard drives, remove the GPU and just leave the memory and CPU installed. If it fires up that way assume that one of the unplugged devices is keeping it from powering on. Plug each one in and power on until you find the device.
From further reading this was a previously working computer. Strip it down to the bare essentials i.e. 1 stick of ram, no video card, no hard drives. nothing plugged into usb ports except keyboard. Test.
I would make sure there are no static charges being generated by you when you open up that board. I have seen that affect some boards before. If you can, since it has been two years, spray the board with a dust spray and then leave to sit, then connect parts and leave to sit again then try powering on (leave to sit = 1hr)
I dug the ole Thermaltake Dr. Power II out of the box. No Warnings and I appear to be getting full power. This is with only the motherboard plug being unplugged and plugged into the tester. All other plugs running from the powersupply were left plugged in. Fan comes on Tester shows everything is peachy.
most motherboards have onboard power led that comes on when the power supply is connected. If this light comes on then there is power to the motherboard and if it does not come on then the motherboard maybe bad.
I just remembered a bit of info. Last Tuesday the alarm went off on the APC UPS 600 and the computer shutdown. I simply unplugged it (assuming it was the battery going bad) and plugged the PC directly into a surge protector. That alarm will go off if the draw on power exceeds the unit and not necessarily when the battery goes dead.
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