Towards WinPython 2021-03

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stonebig

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May 10, 2021, 2:29:53 PM5/10/21
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The WinPython 2021-03 build1 is out for a release  end june 2021.

This cycle aims to:
- introduce a PyPy3 branch, with PyPy (a JIT Python) instead of  cPython inside,
- publish a big Python-3.10 beta branch,
- continue on Jupyterlab journey with Jupyterlab-3.1,
- Push on Data Engineering, Web technology, Integrated ML
- Explore Qt-6 options.


Changes from WinPython 2021-02:
- Infrastructure: 
  - Python-7.3.10 on PyPy3-7.3.5**rc2** 
  - Python-3.8.10, Python-3.9.5, 
  - Python-3.10.0b1, 
  - pip-21.1.1
- New Packages: 
  - matplotlib_inline-0.1.2   
- Upgraded Packages: 
  - VSCode-1.56.0.0
  - Matplotlib-3.4.2, scikit_learn-0.24.2, scipy-1.6.3, xarray-0.18.0
- variation per version:
  - no Qt nor ML nor Jupyter package in PyPy3 versions yet,
  - Pytorch in standard branch only,
  - portable VSCode in "cod" branch only. (but you can copy the "\t\cod" directory from one to the other)
 
Areas of particular interest for testers:
- Winpython version pypy3  (in there, type pypy3 instead of python to call the interpreter)
- python-3.10.0b1

Remark:
- a big PyPy3 distro was build, but without the "Jupyter" nor "Qt" nor "cython" packages yet it was felt too much incomplete ... so it will wait next round, as "you never have a second chance to make a first impression".

Thanks to the <detail> markdown tag, you can see a full detail of Build1 packages  in https://github.com/winpython/winpython/issues/953#issuecomment-830821713

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stonebig

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May 23, 2021, 1:46:49 PM5/23/21
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Hello,

The WinPython 2021-03 build2 is out  ! 

Effort was on PyPy3 and Flask-2.0

Changes from WinPython 2021-03 build1:
- Infrastructure: 
  - Python-7.3.10 on PyPy3-7.3.5 final
  - pip-21.1.2
  - a big (Work-In-Progress) PyPy3 version, still full of compatibility bugs to iron out: 
     - 408 packages included (out of 520 in a Cpython version) 
     - is ok: Numpy, Scipy, Matplotlib, Pandas, seaborn, sympy, holoviews
     - is not yet ok:
           - jupyter_core because of pywin32 dependancy on [three functions to re-write using ctypes ](https://github.com/jupyter/jupyter_core/issues/226#issuecomment-846453917) instead, and a [PyPy3 old miss](https://foss.heptapod.net/pypy/pypy/-/issues/3469)
           - statsmodels has apparently an uncompatible practice with [its "docstring" ](https://github.com/statsmodels/statsmodels/issues/7460)
     - is missing: Qt Stack (but [under investigation per Qt Company](https://gitter.im/PySide/pyside2?at=60a62a3477c281623c689b81) )
- New Packages: 
  - csvs_to_sqlite , datasette_graphql, sqlite_utils
  - python_picard
- Upgraded Packages: 
  - jupyterlab-3.0.15, spyder-5.0.3, bokeh-2.3.2
  - Flask-2.0
  - xlwings-0.23.3, dask-2021.5.0
- variation per version:
  - no Qt nor ML package in PyPy3 versions yet,
  - Pytorch in standard branch only,
  - portable VSCode in "cod" branch only. (but you can copy the "\t\cod" directory from one to the other)
 
 
Areas of particular interest for testers:
- finding and narrowing  down issues in  PyPy3 version (some are PyPy3 issues, some are packages issues, but issues shall be identified to be nailed down).
- PyPy3 issues or non-understood issues are to report there: https://foss.heptapod.net/pypy/pypy/-/issues?sort=updated_desc
- packages issues with PyPy3 are to check also on their issue list are sometimes already created, like [here for Matplotlib 

Next build effort:
- pushing on PyPy3 pain points :
  - statsmodels incompatible practice
  - jupyter_core pywin32 replacement
  - pyside6-6.1 for PyPy3 investigation
  - slow parts of PyPy3 vs PyPy2
  - slow parts of PyPy3 vs standard cPython
  - lag vs cPython-3.9


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stonebig

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May 30, 2021, 6:48:31 AM5/30/21
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Hi all,

The WinPython 2021-03 build3 is out  !

Effort continues on PyPy3, with two milestone successes:
- it's working on Jupyter !
- only 100 packages missing to reach parity with cPython (420 vs 520 packages, less than 20%)
 
Changes from WinPython 2021-03 build2:
- Infrastructure: 
  - PyPy3 progress:
    - 420 packages are ok, especially : Jupyterlab + Jupyter Notebook, statsmodels, plotnine 
    - hint of some core dev interest on [writing performant Python code for PyPy](https://twitter.com/cfbolz/status/1398352941849907203)  

Interest for users:
 - helping iron out next issues (discovered or to discover) at this new stage : 

Next builds effort:
- pushing further on PyPy3 pain points :
    - PyPy-7.3.6 will suppress some slow behaviours on pure Python Code: import of modules, close of files, list mutation ...
    - Qt Stack ([pyside6-6.1 for PyPy3 under investigation per Qt Company](https://gitter.im/PySide/pyside2?at=60a62a3477c281623c689b81) )
   - pushing PyPy to reduce its lag of being on 3.7:
      - 3.8 will provide typed-ast
      - lag reduction will increase core Developer interest and "big money" from the general Python "speed-up" effort.

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stonebig

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Jun 6, 2021, 4:27:12 PM6/6/21
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Hi All,
The WinPython 2021-03 build 4 is out !



Changes from WinPython 2021-03 build3:
- Infrastructure: 
  - PyPy3 (python-3.7) progressing as [hoped](https://github.com/winpython/winpython/issues/966#issue-861977495) :
    - 440 packages are ok, notable newcomers:
       - ceODBC, pypyodbc,
       - rasterio, fiona , pyproj, python_snappy, pywinusb, astropy, cytoolz, fast_histogram, llvmlite, mpl_scatter_density,
       - wordcloud, astroml, h5py, GitPython, cached-property, gitdb, jupyterlab-git, nbdime
    - PyPy3 with 'natural' VsCode detection currently requires to copy pypy3.exe as python.exe, a temporary hack    
- New Packages:
  - maturin is now inside all big versions
- Upgrade Packages:
  - jupyterlab-3.0.16, notebook-6.4.0
  - pygit2-1.6.0, GDAL-3.3.0, datasette-0.57

Interest for users:
 - the goal for WinPython 2021-03 PyPy3 is achieved https://github.com/winpython/winpython/issues/966#issue-861977495 ...
 - ... please help iron out next issues (discovered or to discover) at this new PyPy3 stage : 
    - solving  "Shapely" ,  "orjson" and "reportlab" problems would be [helpfull ](https://github.com/winpython/winpython/issues/966#issuecomment-855238265)
    - the PyPy3 team needs support and help in any form to speed-up further and get more momentum
 
Next build effort:
- pushing on PyPy3 next pain points :
    - missing: "Shapely" ,  "orjson" and "reportlab"  packages (or a replacement, like for PyODBC), 
    - coming: 
      - PyPy-7.3.6 to suppress some slow behaviour vs cPython Code: import of modules, close of files, list mutation ...
      - Qt Stack ([pyside6-6.1 for PyPy3 under investigation per Qt Company](https://gitter.im/PySide/pyside2?at=60a62a3477c281623c689b81) )
       - some PyPy3 progress [towards 3.8 compatibility](https://twitter.com/cfbolz/status/1401199542700236814) ), that will bring typed_ast

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stonebig

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Jun 13, 2021, 2:39:50 PM6/13/21
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Hi Al,,

The Winpython 2021-03 build 5 is out !

Changes from WinPython 2021-03 build4:
- Infrastructure: 
  - PyPy3 (python-3.7) progressing:
    - 12 more packages are included:
       - shapely, ipyleaflet, geopandas,
       - reportlab, nbconvert_reportlab, scs, sounddevice,
       - wasmer, wasmer_compiler_singlepass, wasmer_compiler_cranelift
    - ... [work ongoing on PyPy for 'hpy' in Cython, Python-3.8 compatibility (may take the summer)](https://mail.python.org/pipermail/pypy-dev/2021-April/016146.html)
- New Packages:
  - maturin is now inside all big versions
- Upgrade Packages:
  - mypy-0.902 (will be friendly to next PyPy Python-3.8)
  - numpy-1.21.0rc2 and Cython-3.0a7 for Python-3.10 

Interest for users:
 - check new packaged and resolved problems for PyPy3:
     - shapely, reportlab, ipyleaflet, ...  
 -   help iron out next issues (discovered or to discover) at this new PyPy3 stage : 
    - solving  "orjson" or "cartopy" or "pyproj" problems on WinPythonChecker would be [helpfull ](https://github.com/winpython/winpython/issues/966#issuecomment-860021143)
    - the PyPy3 team needs support and help in any form to speed-up further and get more momentum
 
Next build effort: (should be rc)
- pushing on PyPy3 next pain points :
    - missing:  "orjson" and "cartopy"   packages (or a replacement, like for PyODBC), 
    - following progress on : 
      - PyPy-7.3.6 to suppress some slow behaviour, 
      - hpy integration in cython3
- wait or not: numpy-1.21, Jupyterlab-3.1

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stonebig

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Jun 27, 2021, 9:36:19 AM6/27/21
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Hi all,

WinPython 2021-03 rc is out !  

If no major problem is detected, these binaries will be re-tagged as final in a few days.

Main Outcome of this cycle is a PyPy branch, featuring a JIT Python-3.7 on Windows 10 64 bit:
- It has IDLE and Jupyter / VScode compatibility,
- it has not yet Qt ecosystem compatibility, nor Deep Learning modules,
- it can be slower when using some c-extensions, while in pure Python mode it can be 3x Quicker  (see  https://foss.heptapod.net/pypy/pypy/-/issues/3473)
- ...but it's assumed that solving the "cPython" slowness handicap:
  .  is equal to solve  "cPython"  non-JIT-ability problems in the future, (after today low-hanging fruits)
  . and so is equivalent to solve the PyPy compatibility and slowness problems now. 

Changes from WinPython 2021-03 build5:
- Infrastructure: 
  - PyPy3 (python-3.7) progressing:
    - ipycanvas , pymc,, sklearn_contrib_lightning, cartopy, pyproj, reportlab
    - removed the fake 'python.exe', in hope VSCode will detect 'pypy3.exe' more automatically in the future
    - now we roughly have all that was possible, in wait of : pyside6-6.1 compatibility, python-3.8 compatibility, hpy, packagers making some effort.
- New Packages:
  - fastai
- Upgrade Packages:
  - numpy-1.21.0, scipy-1.7.0, mypy-0.910
  - spyder-5.0.5, plotly-5.0.0


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---------------------------------|------------------------------------------|------------------------------------------------------------------|-----------------------------------|--------------------|------------------------------------------------------------------
fa2715d98015019192ebf728f253ae9c | ba4f263ef533df404f7c8cc0b47a6eb78f429bfa | 489ab15c35336cdac32b88a5282d7b5631af74afba34ac6cee3ac475ffd7c7dd | Winpython64-3.7.10.0dotPyPyrc.exe |   25 763 221 Bytes | 8758c48b8c74ba3621989b9abf2ddcfcd38049de21512ffcc9ae2688156508c9
819d5da22c5b2f025eba789ea3edf725 | 4e67187e3bf949ee7ab85d7fbc873f2ac7691c5a | 959d3f7a29134ec758a048217c3bee1010dd1322c98f2452b853796360b748fd | Winpython64-3.7.10.0PyPyrc.exe    |  486 605 762 Bytes | a686ffa27b8cfe96aa227cec7ca1ace5da744ea969dfbdbc76c96f2c9c63d514
2f730858920f12c65991b7f7490bbdd2 | f26b443eaad4727c3e765af85e08081772e48bed | 7e95875b3217429b54939d45d69f87b6f2013a6cbd2e08b52429b466785bdba2 | Winpython64-3.8.10.0dotrc.exe     |   25 375 720 Bytes | 96ef274f4691a66386d173d873e187259729773cb8e3ef6dc224b82493ca6759
6033a8688e3e10c7f2000b1529683abe | 289f45be877469c8237f373b62eaa280f739ed10 | f63295ee104790e80ca1a7e67274d57f1a22aa33dce5850bd9f3464b709739d6 | Winpython32-3.8.10.0dotrc.exe     |   24 217 953 Bytes | a1946929a4d5c3d58e4413aa43131eefd14db6bb0291c9cd29a161940adabe21
dc35b0436535d39166fbc97d0915d22a | a62f1ce23f4569a995368b31599f67a9ab308a69 | 01f2a00265110a51f1fc91a058f1698aef1ef9a1b70f4e6d09f2c9fdccf6edf8 | Winpython64-3.9.5.0dotrc.exe      |   25 839 482 Bytes | 020906ab69e829447cfaa8058863636e4af22e35288ad94081c2416db676d71a
5fd4f594ce5219db3c1269cc79d5f0b6 | bcba1b841afeb476a171af4342703ec962ef247e | 5dc6715618e58944668c28525b2dc7aeacc1a38d9a7df75070ee639e10429b05 | Winpython32-3.9.5.0dotrc.exe      |   24 682 542 Bytes | 87638c83b59a952a71fcaa90aa834634b39c08cea4130342be04635e5cb368ba
dc35b0436535d39166fbc97d0915d22a | a62f1ce23f4569a995368b31599f67a9ab308a69 | 01f2a00265110a51f1fc91a058f1698aef1ef9a1b70f4e6d09f2c9fdccf6edf8 | Winpython64-3.9.5.0dotrc.exe      |   25 839 482 Bytes | 020906ab69e829447cfaa8058863636e4af22e35288ad94081c2416db676d71a
5fd4f594ce5219db3c1269cc79d5f0b6 | bcba1b841afeb476a171af4342703ec962ef247e | 5dc6715618e58944668c28525b2dc7aeacc1a38d9a7df75070ee639e10429b05 | Winpython32-3.9.5.0dotrc.exe      |   24 682 542 Bytes | 87638c83b59a952a71fcaa90aa834634b39c08cea4130342be04635e5cb368ba
1783b1eb3e7d124e481898db5c94aeff | ed1476a8122ab2b65cc5b31e5de6691c39da6f15 | 9a2f25ee58a35656a06bafeddba87c47de28cf11931cdbafe0ebd5b5a4eac2d5 | Winpython64-3.9.5.0rc.exe         |  790 159 865 Bytes | dd5d79c6e306597d51b57f87aabb725028eecf5f3018d2ef6644327bca8604cf

stonebig

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Jul 4, 2021, 4:25:22 AM7/4/21
to WinPython
Hi all,

As no complaints were received since rc, WinPython 2021-03 is equal to the rc version.

Binaries have been renamed  on Sourceforge, and will be uploaded to Github later this week.

 MD5                             | SHA-1                                    | SHA-256                                                          | Binary                            | Size               | SHA3-256                                                         
---------------------------------|------------------------------------------|------------------------------------------------------------------|-----------------------------------|--------------------|------------------------------------------------------------------
fa2715d98015019192ebf728f253ae9c | ba4f263ef533df404f7c8cc0b47a6eb78f429bfa | 489ab15c35336cdac32b88a5282d7b5631af74afba34ac6cee3ac475ffd7c7dd | Winpython64-3.7.10.0dotPyPy.exe   |   25 763 221 Bytes | 8758c48b8c74ba3621989b9abf2ddcfcd38049de21512ffcc9ae2688156508c9
819d5da22c5b2f025eba789ea3edf725 | 4e67187e3bf949ee7ab85d7fbc873f2ac7691c5a | 959d3f7a29134ec758a048217c3bee1010dd1322c98f2452b853796360b748fd | Winpython64-3.7.10.0PyPy.exe      |  486 605 762 Bytes | a686ffa27b8cfe96aa227cec7ca1ace5da744ea969dfbdbc76c96f2c9c63d514
2f730858920f12c65991b7f7490bbdd2 | f26b443eaad4727c3e765af85e08081772e48bed | 7e95875b3217429b54939d45d69f87b6f2013a6cbd2e08b52429b466785bdba2 | Winpython64-3.8.10.0dot.exe       |   25 375 720 Bytes | 96ef274f4691a66386d173d873e187259729773cb8e3ef6dc224b82493ca6759
6033a8688e3e10c7f2000b1529683abe | 289f45be877469c8237f373b62eaa280f739ed10 | f63295ee104790e80ca1a7e67274d57f1a22aa33dce5850bd9f3464b709739d6 | Winpython32-3.8.10.0dot.exe       |   24 217 953 Bytes | a1946929a4d5c3d58e4413aa43131eefd14db6bb0291c9cd29a161940adabe21
dc35b0436535d39166fbc97d0915d22a | a62f1ce23f4569a995368b31599f67a9ab308a69 | 01f2a00265110a51f1fc91a058f1698aef1ef9a1b70f4e6d09f2c9fdccf6edf8 | Winpython64-3.9.5.0dot.exe        |   25 839 482 Bytes | 020906ab69e829447cfaa8058863636e4af22e35288ad94081c2416db676d71a
5fd4f594ce5219db3c1269cc79d5f0b6 | bcba1b841afeb476a171af4342703ec962ef247e | 5dc6715618e58944668c28525b2dc7aeacc1a38d9a7df75070ee639e10429b05 | Winpython32-3.9.5.0dot.exe        |   24 682 542 Bytes | 87638c83b59a952a71fcaa90aa834634b39c08cea4130342be04635e5cb368ba
dc35b0436535d39166fbc97d0915d22a | a62f1ce23f4569a995368b31599f67a9ab308a69 | 01f2a00265110a51f1fc91a058f1698aef1ef9a1b70f4e6d09f2c9fdccf6edf8 | Winpython64-3.9.5.0dot.exe        |   25 839 482 Bytes | 020906ab69e829447cfaa8058863636e4af22e35288ad94081c2416db676d71a
5fd4f594ce5219db3c1269cc79d5f0b6 | bcba1b841afeb476a171af4342703ec962ef247e | 5dc6715618e58944668c28525b2dc7aeacc1a38d9a7df75070ee639e10429b05 | Winpython32-3.9.5.0dot.exe        |   24 682 542 Bytes | 87638c83b59a952a71fcaa90aa834634b39c08cea4130342be04635e5cb368ba
1783b1eb3e7d124e481898db5c94aeff | ed1476a8122ab2b65cc5b31e5de6691c39da6f15 | 9a2f25ee58a35656a06bafeddba87c47de28cf11931cdbafe0ebd5b5a4eac2d5 | Winpython64-3.9.5.0.exe           |  790 159 865 Bytes | dd5d79c6e306597d51b57f87aabb725028eecf5f3018d2ef6644327bca8604cf


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