thanks, Colin.
Hope you continue to have room for your kids, they might be harder to find a
home for.
Sheesh!
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"Wayne Lennon" <ea...@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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> Well cheese dick is a term used for moron like him and dick cheese is a
> term used to describe him as the disgusting putrid pile of rat fecis,
> However both terms can be used. What do you think?
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Animals are not like cars. You don't trade them in when they no longer fit
your lifestyle. You accept the responsibility and LIFELONG commitment YOU
made and don't pass on the responsibility to others.
Sometimes people make me sick.
"Wayne lennon" <per...@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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> Of course there is always one cheese dick who has to make dumb comments.
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"Cool Guy" <polite...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Cool Guy" <polite...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Cool Guy" <polite...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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His "finding" his dog a good home thereby takes away a potential home from a
humane society dog. He may not be putting his down, but he IS putting down
another dog.
"Brian B" <rj...@shaw.NOSPAM.ca> wrote in message
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FACT: he took a dog that he knew would have a lifespan of 12-20 years
FACT: he took a dog knowing that his wife may someday bear children
FACT: he bought/rented a house big enough for him, wife and dog
FACT: when things no longer were easy and required a little work to fix, he
bailed on the dog
FACT: the dog is the victim, not the owner
FACT: his finding this dog a nice home takes away a home from other homeless
animals
FACT: his dog lives, another dog dies
If he can't find the dog a good home ... what then?
Attitudes such as yours are why I no longer help out at rescue shelters. I
couldn't take the idiocy.
"Brian B" <rj...@shaw.NOSPAM.ca> wrote in message
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People like you should be locked up in a shelter until someone decides
you aren't worth the trouble and put you down. But what can you expect from
a redneck grade 6 dropout that probably feeds his dogs the cheapest grocery
brand food on the market.
"Wayne Lennon" <ifuck...@home.com> wrote in message
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> Considering that i did and still do Own dogs And very well looked after
Dogs
> might i add. Your statement for irrelevancy is astounding. I have
personally
> worked in an animal shelter and the humane society (Evan though that name
is
> a joke) I've noticed that the ratio of animals that are given to good
homes
> is insurmountable to the number of animals that have to be put down. But i
> digress the point i was trying to make was the fact that this *not* Cool
guy
> has to put is two fucking cents in about a situation he knows nothing
about.
> Why don't you go and hug your tree eat you tofu and fuck all your animals
or
> what ever it is you do at night and let the man give away his dog if he
> wants without any comments from a PETA wannabee you can bitch, moan, whine
> and cry for the wittle animals you want but remember NO ONE CARES WHAT YOU
> THINK well some do but the rest of us don't in closing FUCK OFF.
> "No Spam" <no....@shaw.ca> wrote in message
> news:86urvtsi5c8aq5fh0...@duff.ca...
> > On Fri, 23 Nov 2001 07:08:54 GMT,
> > in alt.dev.null
> > "Mike Shaver" <ad...@mikeshaver.com> spewed this bit of 'wisdom' to the
> > world:
> >
> > >I agree. If you can't handle responsibility - you should have thought
of
> > >that BEFORE you got a pet. A pet is part of your family, would you so
> > >easily get rid of your kid?
> >
> > If the kid was pissing and crapping on the floor, coughing up furballs,
> > biting me while I was sleeping, and leaving a layer of hair on every
> > piece of clothing and furniture in the house, and climbing onto the
> > counter chewing though a loaf of bread or running off with a $20 steak
> > that was marinating, I have to admit it wouldn't be easy to part with
the
> > kid, and most probably would feel a little guilty waving good-bye while
> > leaving him on your doorstep...
> >
>
>
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I mean...if you have a kid, and decide you dont want it after a year or 2
you can't just give it away. It's not right, and animals are peoples too!!!
Glenn
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Absolutely!!!
And the worst time of the year is coming where many pets are given by
parents too dumb to know that little Johnny or Jane will tire of the
animal and that the responsibilty will fall back on them.
And when that happens the dog gets a short ride to the Humane Society
or an Ad gets posted and another poor animal awaits its fate, whatever
it is.
People should be required to take classes before being able to adopt
or buy animals so they have an idea what is involved.
Also the fact they are willing to take a few classes would show a
willingness to put up with some level of aggravation, which is sure to
come at some point.
km
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> On Fri, 23 Nov 2001 18:24:21 GMT, "k®åZ¥ ©ÂñÜk" <ca...@home.com>
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And because of people like yourself another dog at the Humane Society has to
die.
Good job buddy.
"Wayne Lennon" <ifuck...@home.com> wrote in message
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The cruelest thing I think that can be done to a dog is have it live in a
home that's in the city.
"Wayne Lennon" <ifuck...@home.com> wrote in message
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> What Ever your just a fucking bleeding heart liberal ANIMALS are just that
> ANIMALS they have no rights in the constitution no rights to own land or
> vote the are animals that is it nothing more. this thing is only bad
because
> people like you make it bad because of you crying for the animals hey
guess
> what I ate a burger it was made from a cow mmmmm dead animal soo good
> (before any of you point out that he has put me on ignore I know that let
> him think he got the last word)
> <i_a...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> > I would prefer that people had to take a class before they have a
> children,
> > long before requiring them to take a class before having a pet.
> >
> > km
> >
> > "RTFM" <sour...@shaw.ca> wrote in message
> > news:3bfeb86c...@news.rdc1.ab.wave.home.com...
> > > On Fri, 23 Nov 2001 18:24:21 GMT, "kŪåZĨ ĐÂņÜk" <ca...@home.com>
"Wayne Lennon" <ifuck...@home.com> wrote in message
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> What Ever your just a fucking bleeding heart liberal ANIMALS are just that
> ANIMALS they have no rights in the constitution no rights to own land or
> vote the are animals that is it nothing more. this thing is only bad
because
> people like you make it bad because of you crying for the animals hey
guess
> what I ate a burger it was made from a cow mmmmm dead animal soo good
> (before any of you point out that he has put me on ignore I know that let
> him think he got the last word)
> <i_a...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> > I would prefer that people had to take a class before they have a
> children,
> > long before requiring them to take a class before having a pet.
> >
> > km
> >
> > "RTFM" <sour...@shaw.ca> wrote in message
> > news:3bfeb86c...@news.rdc1.ab.wave.home.com...
> > > On Fri, 23 Nov 2001 18:24:21 GMT, "kŪåZĨ ĐÂņÜk" <ca...@home.com>
Why is it that you ignorant folk think that to respect animals one must
be a liberal vegetarian? Animals actually do have rights and they are, in
fact, protected under law. Once again your ignorance shows through.
Do you understand the difference between a companion animal and
livestock? If I'm going to fast for your elementary school education to
handle just say so and I can explain in great detail for you. Do you need
pictures you can colour to make it clear? Or has your ADD suddenly kicked in
and your mind is wandering?
If you need the last word to let your ego think it got the best of me,
fine. Swear some more, show off your astounding ignorance to the world at
large and let everyone know how much more superior you are to dogs and how
you feel that they should be treated with no more respect than the tattered
pawn shop couch sitting in your living room.
Again, you are what is wrong with the current animal situation. You may
have been brought up to believe that every opinion is right simply because
you think it and that your mistakes are the responsibilities of your
troubled youth but guess what... that's wrong. Your opinions are wrong. Your
mistakes are your responsibility.
I find it funny that you think a "liberal" attitude is one where you are
forced to take responsibility for your situation. I am actually laughing out
loud at you now, Wayne.
I can't wait to tell my friends about the joke you are so they can laugh
too!
> "Wayne Lennon" <ifuck...@home.com> wrote in message
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> > What Ever your just a fucking bleeding heart liberal ANIMALS are just
that
> > ANIMALS they have no rights in the constitution no rights to own land or
> > vote the are animals that is it nothing more. this thing is only bad
> because
> > people like you make it bad because of you crying for the animals hey
> guess
> > what I ate a burger it was made from a cow mmmmm dead animal soo good
> > (before any of you point out that he has put me on ignore I know that
let
> > him think he got the last word)
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Brian B wrote:
> The cruelest thing I think that can be done to a dog is have it live in a
> home that's in the city.
Then you don't know a whole hell of alot about dogs. Dogs don't give a
shit if they're waiting for you to come home while sitting in a kennel
or on 2 acres of land. Dogs *don't* exercise themselves, their only main
goal in life is to please you. I'll give you an example of why living in
the country and having a dog can sometimes be worse for the dog. I grew
up in the city, and moved to the country when I was 23 with a large
malamute (who had lived in the city for 3 years already). When living in
the city, I would walk him 4km every day. Since moving to the country,
he hasn't even been walked *once*. Why? because I live beside a highway
(no room to walk) and it's nearly impossible to get anywhere in the
winter. My property is 5 acres, and if I let him loose he won't do a
whole hell of alot unless I'm involved. The only really good excercise
he receives is from running behind the snowmobile, or ski-jorring. He
doesn't run into other dogs anymore, or people, and it basically starts
to degrade his socializing ability.
Anyways, this comment I've heard WAYYYYY to often. It mostly comes from
people who don't really understand dogs, and think they are some wild
beast that needs it space. They have been domesticated since the dawn of
man, and they're not likely to revert back to they're wild ways by
moving to the country.
2 " I would walk him 4km every day" Well that's what you taught the dog for
3 years, Of course he will only walk with you.
3 "I live beside a highway (no room to walk)" Well with the attitude of
most of the people here, You should of had your dog in mind when you moved
"out of the city"
4 "doesn't run into other dogs anymore, or people, and it basically starts
to degrade his socializing ability." you have allot of space now, Why not
rescue a dog from the humane society? give him a friend.
5 "It mostly comes from people who don't really understand dogs" I was
raised with three dogs, Out of the City.
"Corolla Guy" <james...@excite.com> wrote in message
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Well, I'll put my two cents in here.. just because I can.
1) Not all people who abuse dogs are serial killers, but all serial
killers abused animals.
2) Child poverty is a load of dog poop. In order for a child to live
in poverty it's parents have to live in poverty ie.. regular poverty
stricken parents with
many children birthed like animals because the parents either had
nothing better to do or the women were drunk/on drugs and got knocked
up. Gee.. the men act like animals and the women their pack mates.
Generally milling about in groups searching for change to buy coffee
and cigarettes. So, please spare us the melodramatics about all those
poor kids with no money.. if they were living on thier own on the
street the CFS or some other child services organization would take
them in.
Now.. lets get onto the animal issues.. you know why they used to say
people were more "evolved" than animals? Lets see.. because they were
able to communicate with one another effectively and comprehend it,
they have a soul and their ability to use tools. It seems to me dogs
communicate, as do most animals we just can't always comprehend what
they say. If you actually want to bring religion into it though it
has no relevence anywhere because it's completely subjective, but all
living things have some form of soul. And lastly as for tools, well
dogs aren't that evolved..
Now, What should have been seen in this particular situation is..
simply that this person did not research everything involved with the
care of this living being. If you have no capacity to store any
animal above the size of a chiuaua (sp?) shouldn't buy one.. Such as
people who are too mentally scarred or damaged shouldn't breed
children. All animals who are neither physically or mentally scarred
are capable of being trained to prevent biting a childs face. And if
they're not then they need to be kept as far away from them as
possible.
As for 40 years ago.. people still kept dogs in their houses. Dogs
have been domesticated for several hundred years.
Now lastly, all animals deserve respect and the same kind of equal
treatment as do all living beings. Just because we are the top of the
food chain, doesn't mean we have to eat everybody out there. Just
because we're at the top of the evolutionary chain doesn't mean we
have to kick or abuse or mistreat the little critters below us because
we can. Animals need to be respected as does all of nature. It's
mostly avoidable so people don't need to go out and do it just because
they can, people don't need to run out and buy a pet they'll tire of
three months later just because it SEEMED like a cool idea at the
time. Learn to say no to children, learn proper methods of stopping
your need to feed their begging to shut them up from day one. If you
can't take a child into a certain store because they want everything
there.. avoid it with them if you can. Toys r' us and petland won't
be the end of the world if you don't go in..
People need to be more responsible for their own actions rather than
spew out how they thing the system is stupid because they should get
to kick a dog because it's a dog and how it makes them a big man
inside thier little 3 year old brain. 76% of all reported dog bites
happen at home, which means either people are leaving their children
unattended around dogs who aren't safe around kids or the dogs are
untrained in the obedience necessary to control them. Lastly if they
are a possible danger, there's such a device as a muzzle which isn't
mean it's a safety precaution to protect the people who don't need a
bite on the face, arm or ass.
Brian B wrote:
>
> 1 "only main goal in life is to please you" That's a women's job not a dogs
> ;), Seriously there main goal is just the same as ours to live, not to be
> pets locked up.
So they are to be roaming around free, I guess
>
> 2 " I would walk him 4km every day" Well that's what you taught the dog for
> 3 years, Of course he will only walk with you.
Who said he would only walk with me? I'm saying he got alot of more
regular excercise while we lived in the city.
>
> 3 "I live beside a highway (no room to walk)" Well with the attitude of
> most of the people here, You should of had your dog in mind when you moved
> "out of the city"
I did, but he's receiving less regular excercise where I live now.
>
> 4 "doesn't run into other dogs anymore, or people, and it basically starts
> to degrade his socializing ability." you have allot of space now, Why not
> rescue a dog from the humane society? give him a friend.
No need for that, I've already got three dogs.
>
> 5 "It mostly comes from people who don't really understand dogs" I was
> raised with three dogs, Out of the City.
That means shit, alot of people I've found who live in the country treat
their dogs like cattle.
km
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I've seen dairy barns were the Holsteins are treated better then a large
number of people in the average third world country.
km
"Corolla Guy" <james...@excite.com> wrote in message
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Perhaps a more traditional "Shepard" pie.
Or roast beef with a side of "Yorkshire" terrier.
km
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> On Wed, 28 Nov 2001 11:39:25 -0600,
> in alt.dev.null
> <i_a...@hotmail.com> spewed this bit of 'wisdom' to the world:
>
> >What's wrong with treating their dogs like cattle?
>
> Nothing. Fact is I might even be tempted to try a chihuahua burger
> as a nice light snack, but there is no way I'd go for a French Poodle
> milk shake...just in case the milker might have a slight vision problem...
>
If it's such good exercise to run them on the service road, why couldn't you
drive over to another gravel road in the country (away from the highway) and
let the dog run there... pretty easy to do... and no more than a mile
away!
or why couldn't you walk your dog around the perimeter of your property
until you got to 4 km... ??? If you could spend the time to do it in the
city, why couldn't you now?
as for the treating dogs like cattle, I highly doubt that there's much
demand in a slaughterhouse for a scottish terrier...
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> "Jadran" <it...@home.com.ca> wrote in message
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There are lots of reasons people end up on welfare. Not all of them
drink and gamble.. some are legit and on their because their mentally
disabled or physically disabled. But all in all, Child poverty is a
joke. If you want to define the title properly.. lets call it family
poverty, the parents take the money and mis-spend it.. so the kids
dont' see it. Even if they did, the kids would probably spend it on
candy or toys.. kids aren't responsible.
> Pets VS kids:
> Pets make you slave, they are lazy bastards that all they do is eat,sleep
> and walk.Take the owner for a walk:)
> They can do a few tricks and that is about it.
> Kids:Lots of fun....active, productive from early ages, take care of parents
> when these get old.
> Never mind how small is house, couple still can have at least 2 kids to
> raise.
> Hmmm....except in Roman Empire fairy tails when dog raised Romul nad Rem,
> I haven't heard of dogs raising people.
> For the end: Dogs often bite kids than oposite.
Pets are lazy.. only if raised that way. Say that to someone who owns
a sled dog.. or a horse.. or a guard dog.. or a seeing eye dog.
As for dogs raising children.. sometimes even parents shouldn't raise
some kids.