Future of Flash

[Arsene Lupin]

I find Wink extraordinary useful in its brilliant simplicity and quality of output. It is in daily use in our course design department. However, Flash is receiving so much security criticism now and is being blocked by FireFox and other browsers. Is there any possibility of Wink rendering HTML5 output in the future? Alternatively, are there other users here that know of open-source screen recording software (such as Wink), that create HTML5 files?

Many thanks

[Satish]

Great point. I didn't realise Firefox is auto-disabling Flash now. I have a HTML5 output prototype working but never found time to clean it up and release. Will try to make some time in the near future.

- Satish

[Victor Berrones]

Nice! I dont say much, but this is worth a comment.

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[LE]

I am just concerned that Flash may be on its way out . One reads so many doom articles. Of bigger concern (of course) is that I may not be able to use Wink for the next 500 years still ;-) Nothing in my mind is simpler and faster than Wink. No bloat! On a more serious note, HTML5 is also so adaptive to different screen sizes on mobile devices.

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[Danny Verheyden]

I'm using WINK for several years, top tool!

I'm also waiting for HTML5 support...... Hope you it can be arranged soon......I don't want to switch to another tool.....

Op vrijdag 24 juli 2015 08:04:01 UTC+2 schreef Arsene Lupin:

[Bob Miller]

Hi Satish,

I just wanted to weigh in on the Flash/HTML5 output discussion.  Like so many others, I have been using Wink for years (since the 1.x days).  I just wanted to propose the idea of releasing alpha/beta versions of Wink with your experimental/new features.  Looking over threads from the past several years, I see mentioned various fixes that are in the works for 'this issue and that', but the Wink version remains unchanged for 5+ years.  In spite of it's age, Wink still has a large and faithful user base, and I know that many of us would be willing to test and offer feedback on beta versions.  Alternatively, is there any chance of releasing Wink as open source?  I seem to recall that being mentioned a long time ago - not sure if that is still a possibility.

As I see it, the ability to render output in HTML5 is critical to the future of Wink.  (At my company, we are undertaking a massive effort to do away with all things Flash - including several year's worth of my "Wink" projects.)

Thank you Satish, for taking the time to read this, and for creating Wink - which is arguably the best presentation/CBT-making tool in existence.

Sincerely,

Bob M.

[LE]

I will be willing to test. Great idea.

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[Bob Miller]

Hi Arsene,

Have you experimented with taking the .swf (compressed) output and using Google's "Swiffy" tool to convert it to HTML5?  It sort-of works, but is not a bulletproof solution:

1. SWF file has to be < 1MB

2. The generated .HTML file has to be edited to re-size the output (look about 10 lines up from bottom of file, find line:   <div id="swiffycontainer" style="width: 51px; height:...    and change width and height to match original Wink project dimensions.)

3. There is often "bleed thru" from the previous frame into the next.  I have experimented with various Wink project settings, capturing multiple identical frames, etc. but the bleed-thru problem persists in the HTML5 output.  Maybe in your projects it won't be an issue.  But for many of my presentations/CBT's, the output was simply too ugly to use.

The Swiffy size limitations and bleed thru issues are the deal-breakers for me.  But I mention it here because, for smaller projects, sometimes the output is acceptable, and you (or someone stumbling across this thread) may find it useful.

Sincerely,

Bob M.

On Wednesday, July 22, 2015 at 12:40:35 AM UTC-4, Arsene Lupin wrote:

[Satish]

Thanks Bob and Arsene. Definitely want to do betas again and release new versions of Wink. Trying hard to find the time very soon :)

- Satish

["B"]

Hi Satish... would love to see a new version of Wink. I've been using 2.0 for a long long time now and it's great!! But with Flash on it's way out, it can be greater with HTML5.

[jez lawrence]

Would like to add my own voice to the need for html5 output. If I'm ever to convince my work to switch to this from v expensive captivate for in house "quick guides", I need to be able to demonstrate a move away from flash dependency. And I really like wink so I want to be able to put it in the mix ;)

[Bill]

My company will discontinue the ability to use FLASH at the end of DEC-2019.

When that happens, all of my Wink output will become inaccessible.

Hoping for a new version of Wink with an alternative. (HTML5? Not familiar.)

Thanks

Bill

On Wednesday, July 22, 2015 at 12:40:35 AM UTC-4, Arsene Lupin wrote:

[BSA-Thib]

I am in the same situation.
We use the Wink product a lot and I have many flash files that I want to be able to continue using. I really need a version of Wink that can export my old work in HTML5 and produce new ones.

Thanks

[Banibrata Dutta]

Just curious, even though I've not used Wink in a while now, but would love to if I can -- isn't there anyway to convert from Flash to HTML5, using a converter ?

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[Satish]

Just a quick update - I'm actively working on Wink at this point and hope to release an update with an alternative to Flash soon.

- Satish

[BSA-Thib]

Great !