Re: High Maintenance Charges

[Vibes]

<merging and updated subject>  Re: Windsor Current Rates

Hi all,

  We've had a long debate with Windsor properties on the inflated maintenance charges a few years ago. We bought a 40x60 sire at Windsor properties in Aug 2007 and even at that point the maintenance charges were Rs.48,000 for 3 years(20 psqft). At the time of agreement they refused to reduce it or even explain how they arrived at that magic number for empty plots and we had no choice but to accept it. Fast forward 3 years and in 2010 we received a letter stating that they need another Rs.48,000 for the next three years. This time as there was no agreement we asked them to give us the maintenance details for the still vacant sites before asking for any payment and after a few rounds of discussions they finally told us this- "At least 9 laborers’ work in the site every month, and one of the site supervisor reside in the township. On an average our Maintenance bill will be Rs.45,000/- to Rs.60,000/- per month".

Based on the above and we did a detailed calculation and came up with the value of Rs.4 psqft. Here is our response to which we never got any reply till date.

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Dear Mr. Prasad,

    Thank you for the details. We have gone through your mail and here is our calculation - 

 

Phase I

30x40: 26 sites = 31,200sq ft

40x60: 27 sites = 64,800 sq ft

odd ~30x40: 18 sites = 21,600 sq ft

 

Phase II

30x40: 93 sites = 1,11,600 sq ft

40x60: 83 sites = 1,99,200 sq ft

odd ~30x40: 20 sites = 24,000 sq ft

 

Total area in Phase I + Phase II = 31,200 + 64,800 + 21,600 + 1,11,600 + 1,99,200 + 24,000 = 4,52,400 sq ft

Monthly expenses of 50,000 with 10 workers.  For 3 years total expense is 50,000 * 12 * 3 = 18,00,000

Cost per sq. ft = 18,00,000 / 4,52,400 = ~ Rs. 4 per sq ft

 

Based on the above calculation the reasonable charge should be Rs. 4 per sq ft. Your quote of Rs. 20 per sq ft is 5 times the amount and is too high. At the rate of Rs. 20 per sq ft the charges collected will be Rs. 90,48,000 (~90.5 Lakhs) which is a huge amount and is very unrealistic to maintain an empty layout.

 

Regards,

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Thanks,

Vibes

On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 8:02 PM, Mahesh B <mahesh.b...@gmail.com> wrote:

Even I have received the letter. Don't know how many sites are still left unsold. I think we would need an agreement to pay this amount. Else there is no guarantee of what will be maintained and for how long.

On May 14, 2015 5:36 PM, "Santosh Gmath" <santos...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Friends,

Does anyone received this email?

What is your point of view with respect to this- 24000/-?

Thanks and Regards,
Santosh

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From: Windsor Township <town...@windsordevelopers.com>
Date: Thu, May 14, 2015 at 10:59 AM
Subject: Windsor Township
To: Santosh Gmath <santos...@gmail.com>


Hi

KIndly send  your residence address if changed. 

To.,                                                                                                                             14.05.2015

 

Mr. SANTOSH KUMAR GUDDAPURMATH

C/o. M.Anand Rao, # 8,1^st Floor, Opp to Shrusti Homes,

Balaji Layout, 29^th Cross, Kaggadaspura,

CV Raman Nagar, Bangalore -560 093.

M: 9945391491

 

Dear Sir/Madam,

 Sub: Second Term Maintenance charges for Windsor Township

We would like to inform you that we have successfully completed First Term of Maintenance started from 01^stAugust 2011 to 30^th August 2014.

Now we have started collecting maintenance charges for Second Term for your Plot No. H-07 measuring 1200 sq at “Windsor Township” Phase - 2 (Formerly known as Coral Country) situated at Jadeganahalli Village, Bangalore Malur State Highway, Hoskote Taluk, Bangalore Rural District. We request you pay Rs.24,000/- (Rupees Twenty Four Thousand Only), at the earliest. We need your kind co-operation in this regard

Second Term Starts From: 01 - September - 2014 to 30 - September - 2017 

(Rs.20/- per sq ft 3 Years).

 

Note:  Cheque/Demand Draft shall be drawn in favour of - "Windsor Gardens Private Limited" OR By online transfer -Account No: 034602000001645, Indian Overseas Bank Ltd, Jayanagar 5^th Block Branch, IFSC Code: IOBA0000346, (Please send the online transaction detail Amount/Transaction reference number/transaction Date/Block/Plot no etc.) Kindly update your contact details if changed.

 

Thanking You,

For Windsor Gardens Private Limited

 

 

R N Murthy

99456 66900

On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 1:23 PM, Saravana Kumar <skumar...@gmail.com> wrote:

Still, I did not get this Notification from Windsor.

Any others got the email. Seems to be not everyone got the email.

Thanks

Saravana Kumar

On Thursday, 7 May 2015 13:33:29 UTC+5:30, Bhushan Gupta wrote:

Yes , I got notice regarding this.

Charges are not flat 51000/-, its 20/sqft for 3 years (for example 30x40 plot - 1200x20 = 24000/- for 3 years)

Charges were same for last 3 years.

Thanks,

Bhushan Gupta

On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 1:23 PM, Abhimanyu Divakar <abhimany...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello All,

This mail is to verify if you all received a mail from Windsor group to pay Annual charges of INR 51,000 /-

If so reckon this is a lot for maintaining a plot. Can someone going there in near future enquire the rationale behind this amount.

Any comments??

Regds

Abhi

[Mahesh B]

Hi vibes, thanks for sharing this info. Pls let us know as of now how times you have paid the maintainance charges.

Thanks
Mahesh

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[Vibes]

Hi Mahesh,

   We have paid only once during the initial sale. Still waiting for the response from Windsor properties on why the maintenance charges are so high for an empty locality. We are ok paying for the basic maintenance at ~Rs.4 psqft, not 20. In fact we requested them to call all the Phase I and Phase II owners for a meeting to decide the Maintenance charges and they conveniently ignored our request.

Thanks,

Vibes

[Bhushan Gupta]

That's good idea. We all together should meet once to prasad/murthi.Let's plan

[Piyush Dadoo]

Hi All,
 
Good job vibes. The maintanence charges levied on us are certainly huge based on the information shared to us.

-Piyush

 

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From: vibes...@gmail.com
Date: Sat, 16 May 2015 18:09:13 +0530
Subject: Re: High Maintenance Charges
To: skumar...@gmail.com
CC: windsor-town...@googlegroups.com; abhimany...@gmail.com

[Abhimanyu Divakar]

Hello All,

Can we all plan to meet at the site on 24th May 2015 (Sunday), say at about 10AM?

Regds

Abhi

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[Vibes]

Hi all,

   Here is a request to all folks who have received the mail/letter for the maintenance charge: could you please mail back Mr. Murthy/Prasad and ask them how the amount has been decided? What are the monthly expenses that they are currently incurring? This would help us better decide on what the actual maintenance charges are.

Thanks,

Vibes

[Vibes]

Hi Abhi,

  I am planning to go there on 23rd or 30th to pay the property tax based on the bill collector's availability. Sorry, have another appointment on the 24th. We could also meet in the city if people are close by. I live near Bellandur, ORR.

Thanks,
Vibes

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[Piyush Dadoo]

Hi All,

Legally, Maintanence should be decided by the owner's commitee together with the agency in charge which is windsor gardens itself in our case. Since the commitee is not formed, windsor management is dictating terms. I know, it is early days to form a commitee, but still there should be rationale behind every levied on us.
 
I live abroad, so can't be a part of the meeting. but will want to extend any help possible from offshore.
 
-Piyush
(+971-55-691-6340)


 

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From: vibes...@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 21 May 2015 01:02:11 +0530

Subject: Re: High Maintenance Charges

To: piyus...@hotmail.com
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[Bhushan Gupta]

Hi All,

Any update on maintainance charges? Anyone paid? Any discussion with Windsor like its high as we discussed?

Thanks,

Bhushan Gupta

On 21-May-2015 11:01 AM, "Piyush Dadoo" <piyus...@hotmail.com> wrote:

Hi All,

Legally, Maintanence should be decided by the owner's commitee together with the agency in charge which is windsor gardens itself in our case. Since the commitee is not formed, windsor management is dictating terms. I know, it is early days to form a commitee, but still there should be rationale behind every levied on us.
 
I live abroad, so can't be a part of the meeting. but will want to extend any help possible from offshore.
 
-Piyush
(+971-55-691-6340)


 

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From: vibes...@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 21 May 2015 01:02:11 +0530
Subject: Re: High Maintenance Charges
To: piyus...@hotmail.com

CC: windsor-township-hosakote@googlegroups.com

Hi all,

   Here is a request to all folks who have received the mail/letter for the maintenance charge: could you please mail back Mr. Murthy/Prasad and ask them how the amount has been decided? What are the monthly expenses that they are currently incurring? This would help us better decide on what the actual maintenance charges are.

Thanks,

Vibes

On Sun, May 17, 2015 at 10:06 AM, Piyush Dadoo <piyus...@hotmail.com> wrote:

Hi All,
 
Good job vibes. The maintanence charges levied on us are certainly huge based on the information shared to us.

-Piyush

 

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Date: Sat, 16 May 2015 18:09:13 +0530
Subject: Re: High Maintenance Charges
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