Lets all go windsurfing!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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ted basler

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Dec 8, 2009, 7:08:33 PM12/8/09
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Come on everybody lets go windsurfing!!!!!!!!!   Hell bound in the winter.   I was at a business meeting and this guy got up and addressed us and said he just turned 50 years old and that it was all down hill from there.  I spoke up and asked him if he windsurfs.  He said no.  I said I'm 54 now and I started living when I turned 50 because that's when I windsurfed for the first time.  Thank you Dan and Tammy!  Thank you Chris!  Thank you George!  Thank you Michael Pew! Thank you Ralph! Thank you Rich! Thank you Larry! Thank you Bob!  Thank you farmer Ed!  Thank you windfunstlouis!   Lets all get crazy and have a Christmas rigatta. Ted. 
 

Larry Stemle

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Dec 8, 2009, 9:39:20 PM12/8/09
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Ted, you are blurring the line between insanity and genius, and I like
it! We'll call this genius, since it's inspired by your contagious
enthusiasm for the sport. A Christmas regatta has to be newsworthy
and I can't think of a better way to get my picture in the paper and
draw attention to the sport at the same time. You risked ridicule
among your peers to give witness to the life-changing potential of
Windsurfing, so this is the least I can do. COUNT ME IN!.

I'll go any day Christmas week or weekend, EXCEPT Christmas Day. And
although I have sent ice crystals flying while popping my sail, I
don't care to tempt fate again so my minimum temperature is 40. Chris
if we get 10 sailers will you bring the Jack Daniels?

Larry

Anna McClellan Christy

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I'll bring scotch, bourbon and tequila and my fire pit!  oh yeah and my camera!   and if you're nice i might even let someone use my sub zero sleeping bag to warm up in....  Don't think my surgeon would be crazy about me windsurfing in my knee brace in cold temps....just yet anyway.... besides I don't own a drysuit yet!
 
Tim, I haven't forgot about you and the socks, will get back to you with details this week.
 
Anna

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Hossfeld, Tim W

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Dec 9, 2009, 8:49:25 AM12/9/09
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Go Ted!

Great attitude!

You are making me wanna give windsurfing a go.

Tim

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Richard Hunter

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Dec 9, 2009, 10:47:25 AM12/9/09
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This enthusiasm is contageous. However, I won't be joining you unless it is windy enough to drive my largest funtioning rig,  a 4.8 m2. I have no mast for my 5.1, 5.6, 6.1, and 7.0 1994 Sailworks four cambered race sails. The mast broke about 2 years ago a Dam East.
 
Ice skaters may be obstacles this Christmas season. :-)

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Chris Mihill

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Dec 9, 2009, 11:59:19 AM12/9/09
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Sure I'll bring the Jack.  12/26 works better for me as well.  Let's see how cold the weather will be until I fully commit to this venture.
 
But it does sound intriguing.  Plus I'll have a few longboards people can use.  And yes that include Mr. Iron Man.
 
CM

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Hossfeld, Tim W

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hey if someone has a rig I can borrow and the wind is uber-light, I am game.
 
Tim
 


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wes

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Dec 9, 2009, 5:09:58 PM12/9/09
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You are all CRAZY...and I LOVE it! Can't wait to become ambulatory
and join in the madness. I'll offer up weather forecasts as we get
closer to Christmas.

Wes

On Dec 9, 11:50 am, "Hossfeld, Tim W" <tim.w.hossf...@boeing.com>
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> hey if someone has a rig I can borrow and the wind is uber-light, I am game.
>
> Tim
>
>   _____
>
> From: windf...@googlegroups.com [mailto:windf...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Mihill
> Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 10:59 AM
> To: windf...@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Lets all go windsurfing!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> Sure I'll bring the Jack.  12/26 works better for me as well.  Let's see how cold the weather will be until I fully commit to this venture.
>
> But it does sound intriguing.  Plus I'll have a few longboards people can use.  And yes that include Mr. Iron Man.
>
> CM
>
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>
> From: Larry Stemle <larry.ste...@paulflumideas.com>
> Subject: Re: Lets all go windsurfing!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> To: "Wind Fun St. Louis" <windf...@googlegroups.com>
> Date: Tuesday, December 8, 2009, 8:39 PM
>
> Ted, you are blurring the line between insanity and genius, and I like
> it!  We'll call this genius, since it's inspired by your contagious
> enthusiasm for the sport.  A Christmas regatta has to be newsworthy
> and I can't think of a better way to get my picture in the paper and
> draw attention to the sport at the same time.  You risked ridicule
> among your peers to give witness to the life-changing potential of
> Windsurfing, so this is the least I can do.  COUNT ME IN!.
>
> I'll go any day Christmas week or weekend, EXCEPT Christmas Day.   And
> although I have sent ice crystals flying while popping my sail, I
> don't care to tempt fate again so my minimum temperature is 40.  Chris
> if we get 10 sailers will you bring the Jack Daniels?
>
> Larry
>
> On Dec 8, 7:08 pm, ted basler <ted.bas...@gmail.com<http://us.mc821.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ted.bas...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> > Come on everybody lets go windsurfing!!!!!!!!!   Hell bound in the
> > winter.   I was at a business meeting and this guy got up and addressed us
> > and said he just turned 50 years old and that it was all down hill from
> > there.  I spoke up and asked him if he windsurfs.  He said no.  I said I'm
> > 54 now and I started living when I turned 50 because that's when I
> > windsurfed for the first time.  Thank you Dan and Tammy!  Thank you Chris!
> > Thank you George!  Thank you Michael Pew! Thank you Ralph! Thank you Rich!
> > Thank you Larry! Thank you Bob!  Thank you farmer Ed!  Thank you
> > windfunstlouis!   Lets all get crazy and have a Christmas rigatta. Ted.
>
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kees dejong

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Dec 10, 2009, 8:18:03 AM12/10/09
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If the wind is ok and the lake isnt frozen over I am sure we can make it back and forth a few times with out falling in. Go buy some waterproof socks duck hunters wear at Cabelas or Bass pro and you will keep your feet dry.
 
If the lake is frozen over though I will show you how to make a ice surfer with a piece of plywood, some sharpened angle iron and a old door knob.
We used to do that when I lived in Holland. It is alot of fun and you can get going really fast. Oh yeah wear alot of clothes and a helmet.
Although most of us are hard headed to start with and lack brains  but it does keep your head warm
Kees


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hey if someone has a rig I can borrow and the wind is uber-light, I am game.
 
Tim
 


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Sure I'll bring the Jack.  12/26 works better for me as well.  Let's see how cold the weather will be until I fully commit to this venture.
 
But it does sound intriguing.  Plus I'll have a few longboards people can use.  And yes that include Mr. Iron Man.
 
CM

Anna McClellan Christy

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Dec 10, 2009, 9:53:31 AM12/10/09
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ok guys, i am totally in, i'll be there but not going to get on a board (i would be really pissed if i messed up my new ACL or my rotator cuff repair) But I will bring equipment!   I have an entire quiver of sails from 3.5 to 10 i believe, several masts, several booms, and lots of boards and i will even bring several motorcycle helmets if necessary LOL!  I also have paddles and lifejackets LOL!  Maybe I will bring my kayaks and join you all on the water that way!  (They are flatbottomed so they WONT roll!)  Just let me know what you need....  Are we allowed to have a fire at Creve Coeur?  I have a portable fire pit.  Shall I give the local radio and television stations a heads up??
 
Anna

Richard Hunter

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I'm in, but we'll have to anticipate more possibilites. What if there is 4" of snow on the ice? Or, what if the ice is less than 4" thick. :-) Or, the temperature is less than zero degrees.
 
Bavarian Surf in 1987 (probably no longer in business) in Minneapolis had an ice windsurfing device that had a set of three ice blades riding inside skiis. If the snow was any deeper than about 1/2", the skiis would support the icesurfer board.
 
Often a lake is a mix of ice and ice covered with snow in winter. It can occur about Thanksgiving and thaws mid March. <grin> I note this in case any St Louis readers have never seen this. :-) In order to see it there has to be sustained cold along with snow, plus one has to go outside to see it before any fresh snow melts the next day. <double grin>.
 
The owner of Bavarian Surf, Engel, purportedly held the iceboard speed record then at something over 100 mph, set somewhere in Germany from what I remember. I tested it in very light winds in '87 but considered it too dangerous. It was still my first year at windsurfing, and I was still experiencing body slams that could knock the wind out of me while water windsurfing when catapulted into the water while still attached to the harness lines.
 
Rich
 

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I'm in if it's not 5.0 or below. All I have is a 3/2 wet suit. Sounds
like a lot of fun. I have an exra rig if anyone needs to use it.
Tony

On Dec 10, 9:54 am, Richard Hunter <richshun...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> I'm in, but we'll have to anticipate more possibilites. What if there is 4" of snow on the ice? Or, what if the ice is less than 4" thick. :-) Or, the temperature is less than zero degrees.
>  
> Bavarian Surf in 1987 (probably no longer in business) in Minneapolis had an ice windsurfing device that had a set of three ice blades riding inside skiis. If the snow was any deeper than about 1/2", the skiis would support the icesurfer board.
>  
> Often a lake is a mix of ice and ice covered with snow in winter. It can occur about Thanksgiving and thaws mid March. <grin> I note this in case any St Louis readers have never seen this. :-) In order to see it there has to be sustained cold along with snow, plus one has to go outside to see it before any fresh snow melts the next day. <double grin>.
>  
> The owner of Bavarian Surf, Engel, purportedly held the iceboard speed record then at something over 100 mph, set somewhere in Germany from what I remember. I tested it in very light winds in '87 but considered it too dangerous. It was still my first year at windsurfing, and I was still experiencing body slams that could knock the wind out of me while water windsurfing when catapulted into the water while still attached to the harness lines.
>  
> Rich
>  
>
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>
> From: kees dejong <keesdejon...@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: Lets all go windsurfing!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> To: windf...@googlegroups.com
> Date: Thursday, December 10, 2009, 7:18 AM
>
> If the wind is ok and the lake isnt frozen over I am sure we can make it back and forth a few times with out falling in. Go buy some waterproof socks duck hunters wear at Cabelas or Bass pro and you will keep your feet dry.
>  
> If the lake is frozen over though I will show you how to make a ice surfer with a piece of plywood, some sharpened angle iron and a old door knob.
> We used to do that when I lived in Holland. It is alot of fun and you can get going really fast. Oh yeah wear alot of clothes and a helmet.
> Although most of us are hard headed to start with and lack brains  but it does keep your head warm
>
> Kees
>
> From: "Hossfeld, Tim W" <tim.w.hossf...@boeing.com>
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>
> hey if someone has a rig I can borrow and the wind is uber-light, I am game.
>  
> Tim
>  
>
> From: windf...@googlegroups.com [mailto:windf...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Mihill
> Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 10:59 AM
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> Subject: Re: Lets all go windsurfing!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> Sure I'll bring the Jack.  12/26 works better for me as well.  Let's see how cold the weather will be until I fully commit to this venture.
>  
> But it does sound intriguing.  Plus I'll have a few longboards people can use.  And yes that include Mr. Iron Man.
>  
> CM
>
> --- On Tue, 12/8/09, Larry Stemle <larry.stemle@paulflumideas..com> wrote:
>

kees dejong

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When I was a youngster living in the Netherlands ( Holland) and it froze sufficiently we would take a piece of plywood about 3-1/2 ft long and about 2ft wide, borrow dads saw and cut the front into a point, dull the blade and not tell dad...
 
We would take the angle iron file one side into a sharp edge. (Ice skates do not work because they are "sharpend" flat or in a concave.
We would mount the door knob up front and the 2 angle iron pieces in the back. On top we would screw our mast plate.
 
We used an old 4m sale and if it was windy we would cut it smaller. "I said old sail".
 
We reached speeds of fast as hell and ahww shit I am scared. It was alot of fun as long as you were not catapulted so no harness was used, no matter what.
 
As far as steering concerned. We stood in line with the 2 angle iron pieces in the back and could steer the board by moving the mast fore and aft just like windsurfing.
 
If you got going faster than awe shit you could slow down by letting the sail out or let go, fall on your rear and slide a ways.
 
Yeah snow on ice is no good as it insulates the ice and when the sun shines it will actually melt the top layer of ice, or the bottom part of the snow, iam not sure, but it ruins the ice.
 
I dont know why but it seems to take much longer here in MO than it did in Holland for lakes to freeze over. I have wondered why in the past. Higher arch of the sun here???? Any expertise on that weather guy??
 
By the way if it is too cold we can always tell our other halves we are having a club swap meet... in a bar.
 
Kees
 
 

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Chris Mihill

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The below site is for the foks at Fond du Lac, WI.  They have all sorts of winter "sailing" activities/lessons/etc.  Check it out, might be worth the 6 hour drive.
 
BTW, it might be fun to get a bunch of STL folks to head to Corpus or OBX in the spring.  Rent a big house/condo and spend a few days chasing wind.
 
CM
 

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Richard Hunter

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Door knob and angle irons! How innovative. I imagine only gradual wide turns allowed by the round surface of the door knob, regardless of the speed. Would cheap door knobs colapse? Did higher end constucted devices use trailer hitches instead of door knobs, or was the flattened roundness of a door knob important?
 
The device I described could be steered by pivoting the front single blade/ski with a lever farther back that was moved with one of the feet.
 
Rich

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kees dejong

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Rich,
 
Yeah all you need is something smooth up front as you do the steering with your sail. You could put anything upfront.
But you know about how thrifty us Dutch people are, so I had an old doorknob which was one of those "L" shaped one.
A trailer hitch would work I guess. But when we were done after the season we just took off our mast plate and pitched the rest.
 
Like I said you could steer by tilting the mast fore and aft. We would go in straight lines and at the end of a run slow down, jump off and turn the rig around to go back the same way.
 
It was lot's of fun. We were on ice that was at least 4 inches thick or more. I wonder if CC ever does that???
 
Kees


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Door knob and angle irons! How innovative. I imagine only gradual wide turns allowed by the round surface of the door knob, regardless of the speed. Would cheap door knobs colapse? Did higher end constucted devices use trailer hitches instead of door knobs, or was the flattened roundness of a door knob important?
 
The device I described could be steered by pivoting the front single blade/ski with a lever farther back that was moved with one of the feet.
 
Rich

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Date: Thursday, December 10, 2009, 7:50 PM

When I was a youngster living in the Netherlands ( Holland) and it froze sufficiently we would take a piece of plywood about 3-1/2 ft long and about 2ft wide, borrow dads saw and cut the front into a point, dull the blade and not tell dad...
 
We would take the angle iron file one side into a sharp edge. (Ice skates do not work because they are "sharpend" flat or in a concave.
We would mount the door knob up front and the 2 angle iron pieces in the back. On top we would screw our mast plate.
 
We used an old 4m sale and if it was windy we would cut it smaller. "I said old sail"..
> --- On Tue, 12/8/09, Larry Stemle <larry.stemle@paulflumideas...com> wrote:
>
> From: Larry Stemle <larry.ste...@paulflumideas.com>
> Subject: Re: Lets all go windsurfing!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> To: "Wind Fun St.. Louis" <windf...@googlegroups.com>
> Date: Tuesday, December 8, 2009, 8:39 PM
>
> Ted, you are blurring the line between insanity and genius, and I like
> it!  We'll call this genius, since it's inspired by your contagious
> enthusiasm for the sport.  A Christmas regatta has to be newsworthy
> and I can't think of a better way to get my picture in the paper and
> draw attention to the sport at the same time.  You risked ridicule
> among your peers to give witness to the life-changing potential of
> Windsurfing, so this is the least I can do.  COUNT ME IN!.
>
> I'll go any day Christmas week or weekend, EXCEPT Christmas Day.   And
> although I have sent ice crystals flying while popping my sail, I
> don't care to tempt fate again so my minimum temperature is 40.  Chris
> if we get 10 sailers will you bring the Jack Daniels?
>
> Larry
>
> On Dec 8, 7:08 pm, ted basler <ted.bas....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Come on everybody lets go windsurfing!!!!!!!!!   Hell bound in the
> > winter.   I was at a business meeting and this guy got up and addressed us
> > and said he just turned 50 years old and that it was all down hill from
> > there.  I spoke up and asked him if he windsurfs.  He said no.  I said I'm
> > 54 now and I started living when I turned 50 because that's when I
> > windsurfed for the first time..  Thank you Dan and Tammy!  Thank you Chris!

Chris Mihill

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CC lake does freeze over, but the county keeps a pretty strick handle on people walking/skating on it.  It really has to be frozen before they allow anyone on it.
 
CM

Richard Hunter

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I think it was 4 or 5 years ago that I X-country skied on CC. That year there was a newspaper article about a woman who skied something like 17 of 21 days of snow in St. Louis. The snow lasted another 3 or 4 days on the lake for skiing. I felt a lot safer on the lake with my weight distributed on top of skis, than I did walking on it. I wrote about it on windfunstl.
 
Sometime about 1995 and then again about 2000 there was enough snow that lasted perhaps a week for some decent X-country skiing, so there may have been enough ice on CC then also. About 2000 was the best snow year since I moved to St Louis in 1991. I X-county skied on Monsanto HQ property many times without being asked to leave, even on workdays. I had created a nicely packed hilly ski path which required about 15 minutes to cycle around and it was good skiing for about two weeks.
 
Forest Park is also good skiing, and Art Hill is great after a fresh snowfall and before the snow was overly packed by sledders. Since I thought it was extremely impressive when I first saw someone X-country uphill skating style, I fantasized the sledders and parents thinking the same thing as I passed them uphill numerous times and then performed long traversing downhill runs with an occassional stright downhill run just to show them I could go faster, all while very lightly dressed compared to them. What an ego trip that was then, and again writing about it now. :-)
 
Rich


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Chris Mihill

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I have two nice pairs of xc skis sitting in my garage (Found curbside years ago) and have never used them because I've never wanted to spend the money on boots for an activity I don't see much of around here.  Perhaps this will be the year.
 
CM

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You'll only need polls ($70), boots ($300), probably new mounted bindings ($100), light weight wicking clothing ($200). Make sure to purchase polypropolene briefs with a wind shield if you use tights. It is quite unpleasant and frightening as it warms back up.

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Hossfeld, Tim W

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I'd do craigslist or ebay, why spend $$$ when it only snows here a couple times a year?  I'd love to get into cross country skiing, as it is a great workout.  Only problem is a lack of snow in STL !!!!
 
All my snowboard equipment is used, and works great.  As an examply, my snowboard is $500 new, I got it for $100.  My bindings are $200, I got them for $40.  Similar for boots, etc.  I only go a few times a year, so can't justify new.
 
You can always find someone who bought all-new good equipment, then barely used it and now just wants to get rid of it.
 
But go for new with the briefs !
 
As for tights, these are the best I have found (tried many types for winter biking):
 
 
The Col d'Lizard are just perfect for biking, and also running.  I've worn them in below-freezing (and wet) conditions and they did great.  Very light, very stretchy, very warm, and they block wind.  Perfection.
 
I also just saw at Costco last night they have base layer clothing now.  Did not recognize the brand, but inspection seemed to be decent stuff.   Price is great at under $20 for a piece.  they had tops and bottoms, men and womens.  
 
Tim
 


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Gross, Matthew

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My dad says if you don’t mind driving 4 hours, Chicago is a great place to go cross country skiing because they get a ton of snow usually and it is flat. All last week I was aching to get back out there and do it, then I was thinking of ways to create roller-skis that way I, we could do it all year round, the only problem I had was trying to figure out how to get, make the friction stronger and weaker from wheel to wheel… if anyone can come up with method of doing this without creating a serious amount of bulk, please let me know.

 

I love the Nordic Track, but I want to do it around CC Lake and Forest park, Lake Springfield in IL, and cruise up and down Wydown in Clayton, and many more places!!

 

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Matthew

 

 

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I'd do craigslist or ebay, why spend $$$ when it only snows here a couple times a year?  I'd love to get into cross country skiing, as it is a great workout.  Only problem is a lack of snow in STL !!!!

kees dejong

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Dec 15, 2009, 12:47:09 PM12/15/09
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Matthew
 
You need to look further online, as I believe there is such a thing as roller x-country ski's. I could swear I used to see people with them.
I think they had one wheel upfront and 2 in the back. But that was in Europe 20 plus years ago, while I used to run through the dunes on bike paths. Good luck, sounds like a good excersise.


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Subject: Cross Country Skiing

Richard Hunter

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Dec 16, 2009, 10:35:30 AM12/16/09
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Check this link for roller skis:
 
 
I mail ordered a pair of roller skies from a bike shop in Minneopolis in 1991, after moving to St. Louis from Minneapolis, and still use them. Check this link:
 
The ones I own look most like the yellow Classic Start, thought they were black in '91. Interesting that the yellow Solomon boots in the photo to the right look just like mine that I mail ordered somewhere around 1995 after wearing out the pair I bought in Minneapolis in 1988 or '89.
 
I either ski at Creve Couer or Cliff Cave on mostly flat asphalt. You can use your regular skate type ski poles.
 
I just leave the regular basketed tips on the poles that I use in snow, though you can purchase non basketed tips. The tips won't dig in to solid concrete but work very well on asphalt. You'll have to purchase and mount bindings to match your boots. You can use everything you would use on snow except the skis.
 
The wheels are replacable, and I replaced mine just last year. I use the wide 2" size wheels which I presume more duplicates the skis, but they gradually wear into a cone shape. You can get wheels with ratchets to duplicate diagonal style skiing. Only one of the two wheels on each ski is ratcheted. The ratchet does not affect skating style and is good for going uphill if you get too tired to skate up.
 
The wheels can be purchased with 3 levels of friction. I've always had medium, which is most similar to skiing on packed snow, actually a bit slower. Most of the work is done with the poles. Poling really works the triceps and the abs. I takes a while to learn how to use the abs to generate significantly more thrust.
 
The tips break occassionally, so I recommend keeping a backup pair of basketed tips.
 
When it is over 80 degrees, roller skiing is very hot and my feet tend to blister from all the moisture that collects in the boots. Even in summer you will want to wear gloves.
 
Poling is most effective if the polls are strapped to your wrists. Consequently, any fall is painfull as both your feet and hands are bound to something.
 
I skied four years on snow and thus acquired the ability to break falls on softer surfaces. It would be much more painful to learn X-country skiing on roller skis. The biggest problem with my roller skis, is the is no way to stop quickly.
 
Rich
 


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Gross, Matthew

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Dec 17, 2009, 8:46:22 AM12/17/09
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That site looks awesome!!! I am going to have look more into that site!! Thank you so much for helping me with this awesome finding!!!

 

And I would like to take this time to wish everyone a safe and happy holiday season!

 

Live like a lion, live for the Adventure!

Matthew

 

 

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Business Development

 

Gross Mechanical Contractors, Inc.

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