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This enthusiasm is contageous. However, I won't be joining you unless it is windy enough to drive my largest funtioning rig, a 4.8 m2. I have no mast for my 5.1, 5.6, 6.1, and 7.0 1994 Sailworks four cambered race sails. The mast broke about 2 years ago a Dam East.
Ice skaters may be obstacles this Christmas season. :-)
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Sure I'll bring the Jack. 12/26 works better for me as well. Let's see how cold the weather will be until I fully commit to this venture.
But it does sound intriguing. Plus I'll have a few longboards people can use. And yes that include Mr. Iron Man.
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Sure I'll bring the Jack. 12/26 works better for me as well. Let's see how cold the weather will be until I fully commit to this venture.
But it does sound intriguing. Plus I'll have a few longboards people can use. And yes that include Mr. Iron Man.
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I'm in, but we'll have to anticipate more possibilites. What if there is 4" of snow on the ice? Or, what if the ice is less than 4" thick. :-) Or, the temperature is less than zero degrees.
Bavarian Surf in 1987 (probably no longer in business) in Minneapolis had an ice windsurfing device that had a set of three ice blades riding inside skiis. If the snow was any deeper than about 1/2", the skiis would support the icesurfer board.
Often a lake is a mix of ice and ice covered with snow in winter. It can occur about Thanksgiving and thaws mid March. <grin> I note this in case any St Louis readers have never seen this. :-) In order to see it there has to be sustained cold along with snow, plus one has to go outside to see it before any fresh snow melts the next day. <double grin>.
The owner of Bavarian Surf, Engel, purportedly held the iceboard speed record then at something over 100 mph, set somewhere in Germany from what I remember. I tested it in very light winds in '87 but considered it too dangerous. It was still my first year at windsurfing, and I was still experiencing body slams that could knock the wind out of me while water windsurfing when catapulted into the water while still attached to the harness lines.
Rich
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The below site is for the foks at Fond du Lac, WI. They have all sorts of winter "sailing" activities/lessons/etc. Check it out, might be worth the 6 hour drive.
BTW, it might be fun to get a bunch of STL folks to head to Corpus or OBX in the spring. Rent a big house/condo and spend a few days chasing wind.
CM
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Door knob and angle irons! How innovative. I imagine only gradual wide turns allowed by the round surface of the door knob, regardless of the speed. Would cheap door knobs colapse? Did higher end constucted devices use trailer hitches instead of door knobs, or was the flattened roundness of a door knob important?
The device I described could be steered by pivoting the front single blade/ski with a lever farther back that was moved with one of the feet.
Rich
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--- On Thu, 12/10/09, kees dejong <keesde...@yahoo.com> wrote: |
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Door knob and angle irons! How innovative. I imagine only gradual wide turns allowed by the round surface of the door knob, regardless of the speed. Would cheap door knobs colapse? Did higher end constucted devices use trailer hitches instead of door knobs, or was the flattened roundness of a door knob important?
The device I described could be steered by pivoting the front single blade/ski with a lever farther back that was moved with one of the feet.
Rich
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CC lake does freeze over, but the county keeps a pretty strick handle on people walking/skating on it. It really has to be frozen before they allow anyone on it.
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I think it was 4 or 5 years ago that I X-country skied on CC. That year there was a newspaper article about a woman who skied something like 17 of 21 days of snow in St. Louis. The snow lasted another 3 or 4 days on the lake for skiing. I felt a lot safer on the lake with my weight distributed on top of skis, than I did walking on it. I wrote about it on windfunstl.
Sometime about 1995 and then again about 2000 there was enough snow that lasted perhaps a week for some decent X-country skiing, so there may have been enough ice on CC then also. About 2000 was the best snow year since I moved to St Louis in 1991. I X-county skied on Monsanto HQ property many times without being asked to leave, even on workdays. I had created a nicely packed hilly ski path which required about 15 minutes to cycle around and it was good skiing for about two weeks.
Forest Park is also good skiing, and Art Hill is great after a fresh snowfall and before the snow was overly packed by sledders. Since I thought it was extremely impressive when I first saw someone X-country uphill skating style, I fantasized the sledders and parents thinking the same thing as I passed them uphill numerous times and then performed long traversing downhill runs with an occassional stright downhill run just to show them I could go faster, all while very lightly dressed compared to them. What an ego trip that was then, and again writing about it now. :-)
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--- On Mon, 12/14/09, kees dejong <keesde...@yahoo.com> wrote: |
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I have two nice pairs of xc skis sitting in my garage (Found curbside years ago) and have never used them because I've never wanted to spend the money on boots for an activity I don't see much of around here. Perhaps this will be the year.
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| You'll only need polls ($70), boots ($300), probably new mounted bindings ($100), light weight wicking clothing ($200). Make sure to purchase polypropolene briefs with a wind shield if you use tights. It is quite unpleasant and frightening as it warms back up. --- On Mon, 12/14/09, Chris Mihill <cmi...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: |
My dad says if you don’t mind driving 4 hours, Chicago is a great place to go cross country skiing because they get a ton of snow usually and it is flat. All last week I was aching to get back out there and do it, then I was thinking of ways to create roller-skis that way I, we could do it all year round, the only problem I had was trying to figure out how to get, make the friction stronger and weaker from wheel to wheel… if anyone can come up with method of doing this without creating a serious amount of bulk, please let me know.
I love the Nordic Track, but I want to do it around CC Lake and Forest park, Lake Springfield in IL, and cruise up and down Wydown in Clayton, and many more places!!
Live like a lion, live for the Adventure!
Matthew
Matthew E. Gross
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Subject: RE: Lets all go windsurfing!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'd do craigslist or ebay, why spend $$$ when it only snows here a couple times a year? I'd love to get into cross country skiing, as it is a great workout. Only problem is a lack of snow in STL !!!!
Check this link for roller skis:
I mail ordered a pair of roller skies from a bike shop in Minneopolis in 1991, after moving to St. Louis from Minneapolis, and still use them. Check this link:
The ones I own look most like the yellow Classic Start, thought they were black in '91. Interesting that the yellow Solomon boots in the photo to the right look just like mine that I mail ordered somewhere around 1995 after wearing out the pair I bought in Minneapolis in 1988 or '89.
I either ski at Creve Couer or Cliff Cave on mostly flat asphalt. You can use your regular skate type ski poles.
I just leave the regular basketed tips on the poles that I use in snow, though you can purchase non basketed tips. The tips won't dig in to solid concrete but work very well on asphalt. You'll have to purchase and mount bindings to match your boots. You can use everything you would use on snow except the skis.
The wheels are replacable, and I replaced mine just last year. I use the wide 2" size wheels which I presume more duplicates the skis, but they gradually wear into a cone shape. You can get wheels with ratchets to duplicate diagonal style skiing. Only one of the two wheels on each ski is ratcheted. The ratchet does not affect skating style and is good for going uphill if you get too tired to skate up.
The wheels can be purchased with 3 levels of friction. I've always had medium, which is most similar to skiing on packed snow, actually a bit slower. Most of the work is done with the poles. Poling really works the triceps and the abs. I takes a while to learn how to use the abs to generate significantly more thrust.
The tips break occassionally, so I recommend keeping a backup pair of basketed tips.
When it is over 80 degrees, roller skiing is very hot and my feet tend to blister from all the moisture that collects in the boots. Even in summer you will want to wear gloves.
Poling is most effective if the polls are strapped to your wrists. Consequently, any fall is painfull as both your feet and hands are bound to something.
I skied four years on snow and thus acquired the ability to break falls on softer surfaces. It would be much more painful to learn X-country skiing on roller skis. The biggest problem with my roller skis, is the is no way to stop quickly.
Rich
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That site looks awesome!!! I am going to have look more into that site!! Thank you so much for helping me with this awesome finding!!!
And I would like to take this time to wish everyone a safe and happy holiday season!
Live like a lion, live for the Adventure!
Matthew
Matthew E. Gross
Business Development
Gross Mechanical Contractors, Inc.
3622 Greenwood Blvd.
Maplewood, MO 63143
314.645.0077 Ext: 3037 (office)
314.753.0755 Cell
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