Re: Wind farms are receiving millions of pounds to shut down when the weather is too windy, The Times has learnt.

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dave andrews

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Jan 24, 2012, 4:11:07 AM1/24/12
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Fred, I think in the past you have expressed the view that we build wind farms and worry about interconnections in the future.  Well, this is what happens if you do that.
 
Since grid lines take up to 15 years to permit and build, and wind farms only 3, clearly you start to build the inter connectors now.
 
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Dave

On 24 January 2012 09:43, Herbert Eppel <He...@hetranslation.co.uk> wrote:
On 21.01.2012 23:43 UK Time, Chris Hodrien wrote:

National Grid argues that it is usually cheaper to pay off wind farms on
the occasions when they would be operating at full capacity than
spending billions of pounds to strengthen these isolated parts of the grid.

Just because it may be cheaper at present doesn't mean it's sensible, does it?

Surely the conclusion has to be that the grid needs upgrading as a matter of urgency, and it is indeed happening - see <http://www.businessgreen.com/bg/news/2140691/ofgem-speeds-gbp7bn-plan-rewire-low-carbon-scotland>, for example.

Herbert Eppel
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dave andrews

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Jan 24, 2012, 7:25:43 AM1/24/12
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Jerome....thanks for your correction....Dave

2012/1/24 Jérôme Guillet <jerome...@yahoo.fr>
This is not "what happens" - this is the Daily Telegraph and the Times making a normal operation of the grid appear as scandalous. Peakers and other "on demand" power plants are being paid all the time to not produce, but this is not presented as something extravagant. Once in a while, it becomes more economic to also switch off some wind farms (because it's cheaper at this point that to switch on a more expensive peaker, or to cut off someone else) and they get paid to do that.

There's no reason to invest in more infrastructure just because of these events (there may be good reasons to do it for future expansion, but the 'facts" used by the anti-wind crowd here are just malicious and voluntarily ignorant of the way markets work)

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