Is anyone aware of a precedent for converting a historic windmill to electricity generation?
Herbert Eppel
converting it to electricity generation has been floated.
For picture of the remains of Woodhouse Eaves windmill and associated
items see section 2 at <http://www.HerbEppel.de/Beacon>.
Is anyone aware of any precedents for such a project?
My gut feeling is that it would be difficult and expensive, but that
doesn't mean it shouldn't be attempted, if technically and
architecturally feasible in principle.
Any thoughts?
Herbert Eppel
www.HETranslation.co.uk
A FAWCETT
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phill....@bt.com
Have a look at http://www.heritage-windpower.co.uk/
This windmill was rebuilt in about 2004 with the idea of having a 20Kw generator, but it never happened. One wonders if it was a ruse to ease the planning process.
Nice house, amazing views!
Lots of links in the web page for people who might be able to help and advise
Phill
Herbert Eppel
technical barriers?
Herbert Eppel
www.HETranslation.co.uk
On 08.02.2012 08:44 UK Time, A FAWCETT wrote:
> waste of money....
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If I recall correctly, the problem you may encounter is that historic windmills were designed to generate the maximum amount of torque possible for grinding corn, rather than RPM like modern wind turbines. You may have to do clever things with gearing/capacitors, but a proper engineer would be able to provide a fuller answer.
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Herbert Eppel
Thanks for your reply.
In the case of Woodhouse Eaves there is very little left of the original mill � see Plate 2 at <http://www.HerbEppel.de/Beacon>, so I suppose it comes down to how much deviation from the design of a traditional windmill the locals would be prepared to tolerate.
I dare say a visionary architect/engineer could probably up with an exciting design that would incorporate elements of traditional windmills as well as modern turbines.
Herbert
On 08.02.2012 14:49 UK Time, Adam Bell wrote:
If I recall correctly, the problem you may encounter is that historic windmills were designed to generate the maximum amount of torque possible for grinding corn, rather than RPM like modern wind turbines. You may have to do clever things with gearing/capacitors, but a proper engineer would be able to provide a fuller answer.
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Phil
Thanks for your reply and the interesting link.
Herbert Eppel
www.HETranslation.co.uk
On 08.02.2012 09:01 UK Time, phill....@bt.com wrote:Have a look at http://www.heritage-windpower.co.uk/
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Nice house, amazing views!
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Lots of links in the web page for people who might be able to help and advise
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From: Herbert Eppel <He...@HETranslation.co.uk>
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The interesting idea of restoring Woodhouse Eaves windmill and converting it to electricity generation has been floated.
For picture of the remains of Woodhouse Eaves windmill and associated items see section 2 at <http://www.HerbEppel.de/Beacon>.
Is anyone aware of any precedents for such a project?
My gut feeling is that it would be difficult and expensive, but that doesn't mean it shouldn't be attempted, if technically and architecturally feasible in principle.
Any thoughts?
Herbert Eppel
www.HETranslation.co.uk
phill....@bt.com
The external appearance could remain the same, it’s all about the gearing and internal workings. It would not be ideal for electric generation, and would not use many “off the shelf parts”, but would be an interesting project.
I’m sure you would be able to sell the design once you perfected it, the Dutch would be mad for it!
Phill
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Sent: 08 February 2012 15:01
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Hi Adam
Thanks for your reply.
In the case of Woodhouse Eaves there is very little left of the original mill – see Plate 2 at <http://www.HerbEppel.de/Beacon>, so I suppose it comes down to how much deviation from the design of a traditional windmill the locals would be prepared to tolerate.
I dare say a visionary architect/engineer could probably up with an exciting design that would incorporate elements of traditional windmills as well as modern turbines.
Herbert
On 08.02.2012 14:49 UK Time, Adam Bell wrote:
If I recall correctly, the problem you may encounter is that historic windmills were designed to generate the maximum amount of torque possible for grinding corn, rather than RPM like modern wind turbines. You may have to do clever things with gearing/capacitors, but a proper engineer would be able to provide a fuller answer.
From: wind-energ...@googlegroups.com [mailto:wind-energ...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Herbert Eppel
Sent: 08 February 2012 14:42
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Subject: Re: Is anyone aware of a precedent for converting a historic windmill to electricity generation?
Phil
Thanks for your reply and the interesting link.
Herbert Eppel
www.HETranslation.co.uk
On 08.02.2012 09:01 UK Time, phill....@bt.com wrote:
Have a look at http://www.heritage-windpower.co.uk/
This windmill was rebuilt in about 2004 with the idea of having a 20Kw generator, but it never happened. One wonders if it was a ruse to ease the planning process.
Nice house, amazing views!
Lots of links in the web page for people who might be able to help and advise
Phill
From: Herbert Eppel <He...@HETranslation.co.uk>
To: Claverton Discussion <energy-disc...@googlegroups.com>; Claverton Wind <wind-energ...@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, 8 February 2012, 8:25
Subject: Is anyone aware of a precedent for converting a historic windmill to electricity generation?
The interesting idea of restoring Woodhouse Eaves windmill and converting it to electricity generation has been floated.
For picture of the remains of Woodhouse Eaves windmill and associated items see section 2 at <http://www.HerbEppel.de/Beacon>.
Is anyone aware of any precedents for such a project?
My gut feeling is that it would be difficult and expensive, but that doesn't mean it shouldn't be attempted, if technically and architecturally feasible in principle.
Any thoughts?
Herbert Eppel
www.HETranslation.co.uk
Herbert Eppel
Thanks for your reply.
Yes, I'm sure there are many fine examples of windmill restorations, but
I'm particularly interested in the 'electrical makeover' aspect (I like
the term! :-) )
Best wishes
Herbert Eppel
www.HETranslation.co.uk
On 08.02.2012 18:03 UK Time, ca...@f2s.com wrote:
> Holgate windmill (near us in York) has been restored to its former glory as a fully working windmill
> (as in grinding grain) which may, in the longer run, be more useful :) Its location helped: lots of
> retired railway engineers seemed to live nearby, happy to give their time to that kind of chunky
> engineering. It has a "friends of" which raised the money and got the grants and the like.
>
> I don't know of any electrical makeovers, sorry.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Candy
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