how to handle embedded videos ?

[chr.pfeiffer]

Hi there,

in which way should embedded videos be handled?

In the wiki syntax I have for example:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GJeLW7Bh7E

( In pmwiki (pmwiki-2.2.25) I have swf-sites enabled )

The html output is for example:

<p>

<object type='application/x-shockwave-flash' width='425' height='344' data='http://www.youtube-nocookie.com/v/8GJeLW7Bh7E?fs=1&hd=1'>

  <param name='movie' value='http://www.youtube-nocookie.com/v/8GJeLW7Bh7E?fs=1&hd=1' />

  <param name='wmode' value='transparent' />

  <param name='allowFullScreen' value='true' />

  <param name='allowscriptaccess' value='always' />

</object>

</p>

In the conversion process I get nothing in xml, just the <p></p>, hence nothing in the generated pdf.

I think a nice way would be

a) showing a still of the embedded video with the link to the video

or

b) just the link to the video

Sadly I can only use server version 2.2.19 at the moment in production, so if there is already this feature in newer versions I'm sorry for bothering.

keep up the good work!

[JR]

The Flash recipe generates HTML tags for embedding the movie, and
because these are not wikibook xml, wikipublisher removes them.

In local/config.php, try

if($format != 'pdf') include_once('cookbook/swf-sites.php');

and make sure this line is *after* you load the wikipublisher
extensions.

This should make pmwiki treat youtube links as regular external links.

> I think a nice way would be
> a) showing a still of the embedded video with the link to the video

This will require some more work. Do you know if it is possible to
request a still from youtube as a png image? If so, do you know the
form of the url that does this? If it is possible to ask youtube for a
still image in the form of a png file, we can insert this in the pdf,
with a link to the video. Alternatively, if you have suitable still
images, and can upload them using Attach:8GJeLW7Bh7E.png (using the id
in the example), we could get wikipublisher to use this image to link
to the video.

> or
> b) just the link to the video
>

It should be possible to add support for [[http://www.youtube.com/
watch?v=8GJeLW7Bh7E | some link text]] and use the link text in the
pdf. I think we could do this with a new html markup rule that removes
the link text before swf-sites processes the link. For the pdf, we can
either let wikipublisher put the link in a footnote as normal, or try
to get it to treat these as a special case.

Hope this helps
JR

On Dec 2, 10:46 pm, "chr.pfeiffer"

[chr.pfeiffer]

thanks JR,

before i can try your changes, here's answer for youtubes still picture handling:

from thumbnail preview image ( http://www.longtailvideo.com/support/forums/jw-player/feature-suggestions/8193/youtube-thumbnail-preview-image )

image as jpg, didn't find png generation

video source

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcKkKsUH4SA

320x240 image

http://img.youtube.com/vi/HcKkKsUH4SA/0.jpg

pattern

http://img.youtube.com/vi/***/0.jpg

Thank you so much for your great work!

[JR]

Try this:

if ($format == 'pdf')
Markup('youtube', '>inline',
'/(http:\/\/)www(\.youtube\.com\/)watch\?v=([^&\s]+)(&[^\s]+)?/',
'[[$0 | $1img$2vi/$3/0.jpg"$3"]]');
else
include_once('cookbook/swf-sites.php');

This uses the id of the video as the figure caption in the pdf, and
makes it a link to the video. I have tested this and it works for me.
Use of other link effects will take a bit more effort, because we have
to stop wikipublisher putting links into footnotes, which does not
play nicely with floats.

On Dec 5, 10:32 am, "chr.pfeiffer"

<chr.pfeiffer.arc...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> thanks JR,
>
> before i can try your changes, here's answer for youtubes still picture
> handling:
>

> from thumbnail preview image (http://www.longtailvideo.com/support/forums/jw-player/feature-suggest...

>  )
> image as jpg, didn't find png generation
>
> video sourcehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcKkKsUH4SA
>
> 320x240 imagehttp://img.youtube.com/vi/HcKkKsUH4SA/0.jpg
>

> patternhttp://img.youtube.com/vi/***/0.jpg<http://img.youtube.com/vi/HcKkKsUH4SA/0.jpg>