Need technical support - use this SUPPORT forum

[mackiwg]

Hi,

If you get stuck with any of the Wiki syntax or have any technical
questions - this is the place to ask. Remember - we were all Wiki
beginners at some stage - so don't be shy about asking for help.

Its now our turn to repay the favour to those who helped us in getting
started with wikis.

Look forward to meeting you online.
Cheers
Wayne

[Tippen]

Wayne,

Day Two's exercise is to open a user account on Wikieducator. I am
wrestling with what that means. I am registered on the Google Group,
WikiPasifica, but still don't know on what site the WikiEducator
account exists (I am assuming that this is where the Wikimedia
practice is). This is an ongoing question I raised last week with
Patricia.

I went to www.wikieducator.org, and found that I was apparently a
member of that forum: my self-introduction was in the membership
information.

Am I already one of the chosen? <smile>

Otherwise, help!

John

[Patricia Schlicht]

Dear John,

To be able to upload anything to WikiEducator, or to edit the pages,
should you see a need for it, you need to be a registered WE user. If
you are already a user, you are indeed "one of the chosen people". It
will allow you to create your own user page, which you will be asked
later in the tutorials to create. Hope this will help
Cheers,
Patricia

[John Harris]

Patricia,

 

My question is how do I create this account.

 

John

 

John Harris
Senior tutor, ABE English
Thompson Rivers University-Open Learning
jha...@tru.ca
250.852.6924
(For toll free long distance within Canada,
dial 1-888-828-3399, then enter 6924


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[Patricia Schlicht]

Hi John,

• Please go to www.wikieducator.org/Mainpage
• On the top right-hand corner you will find “Login/Create an account” option
• Choose “Create an Account”
• The login interface appears looking like this:

 

Log in

Don't have a login? Create an account.

You must have cookies enabled to log in to WikiEducator.

Username:
Password:
	Remember my login on this computer

 

• Choose “Create an account”
• The Create an Account interface will pop up
• As a protection against automated spam, you'll need to type in the letters that appear in the image on the screen, to register your account. If you can't identify the letters, just make your best attempt, submit the form, or try again.
• Complete the fields below the letters you have entered and select “Create an Account” below to submit
• If your creation was successful, the system will acknowledge this by opening a page saying this: “Your account has been created” You have the option to now go to the Main page (highlighted in red because it has not yet been created). Here you can now set up your own page, which you will learn later in the tutorials, how to do.
• To go back to your side later – after you have logged off and now want to log back in: At the top page on the frontpage/main page of WikiEducator (www.wikieducator.org/Mainpage it will say your name, provided you log in from the same IP address. If not, just log in by clicking on the login option to the right at the top-right hand of the page and you are there.

Hope this answers your question

Cheers,

Patricia

 

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[John Harris]

That looks very specific.

 

Thanks, Patricia.

 

John

 

John Harris
Senior tutor, ABE English
Thompson Rivers University-Open Learning
jha...@tru.ca
250.852.6924
(For toll free long distance within Canada,
dial 1-888-828-3399, then enter 6924

>>> Patricia Schlicht <PSch...@col.org> 10/10/2007 4:44 pm >>>

[Derek]

Hi guys, I'm lazy.

I'm interested in improving the look of my formatting.

Are there any pre-defined styles?

I know about <blockquote>

For example, a nice shaded background, with a border for a callout
kind of thing.

-Derek
Saturday here, domesticy is calling, but I will be back.

[Derek]

Number 2 "I'm lazy" post.

A Is there a way to upload lots of images at once?

B Is there a way to store standard code in MW, like

Header space
Maybe with a standard 2-3 font types
Two column body
Maybe with several blank spaces
Footer

So you have a quick way to start a new page, and to get some
consistency . . .

[Brent]

Derek:

MediaWiki will accept quite a bit of HTML including DIVs, backgrounds, etc... so if you're into that kind of thing ... then you're away laughing.

brent.

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[Derek Chirnside]

On 13/10/2007, Brent <pumic...@gmail.com> wrote:

Derek:

MediaWiki will accept quite a bit of HTML including DIVs, backgrounds, etc... so if you're into that kind of thing ... then you're away laughing.

brent.

I may be away laughing, but it creates a lot of cluttered pages and more typing.
PLUS: it leades to a  lot of variation n styles etc etc.

What I's like is (choose a figure) 10 nice crafter compatible styles in the stylesheet we can use.

Rather than type a whole bunch of geek stuff, just put <Div style="width:50%; background:#F6F9ED; border-left:1px solid #AAAAAA; padding-left: 1.2em;" valign="top" >

Put say <div style=redbox>

:-)

Wow, that was a quick reply.  THANKS Brent

[Brent]

You could use the template functions to do quite a bit of this; they're a bit advanced ... but if you want to take a look, here's a couple of resources :

http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Template

taking a look at all the templates currently in use in WikiEd might give you an idea of how to use them and how powerful an idea they are. Often if you look at a template page there will be instuctions on the page itself or on the Talk Page on how to use / implement them.

here's a lit of all the templates currently in use:

http://www.wikieducator.org/index.php?title=Special%3AAllpages&from=&namespace=10

There is also a pretty neat hack that is in use here:

http://www.wikieducator.org/Learning_Design/Design_Guide

you can find out more about how to implement this feature here:
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Inputbox

brent.

On 10/13/07, Derek < derek.c...@gmail.com> wrote:

[Brent]

there is a way to hack / add to the default style sheet that is in the wiki ... one really interesting and crafty aspect of mediawiki is that the main stylesheet is actually just a wiki page ! ... i haven't played with this feature too much, but it couldn't be too difficult to add styles for a unique ID or class that we needed.

brent.

[Patricia Schlicht]

Hi Derek,

Why don't you try this:
http://www.wikieducator.org/Wikieducator_tutorial/Pedagogical_Templates

Cheers,
Patricia

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Subject: [WikiPasifica] Re: Need technical support - use this SUPPORT
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[mackiwg]

Hey Derek,

I hope that they're paying you a little overtime - or is the time
you're spending over the weekend a few old geek habits?

I see Brent has jumped in with a few good pointers to some of the more
advanced technical stuff.

You're right - Mediawiki is not the average paint-by-numbers, fill-in-
the-box type of website that will you the same page in twenty
different shades or positions <smile>.

We thought long and hard before choosing Mediawiki to host
WikiEducator - at the end of the day we chose a proven technology that
will scale. Building a free curriculum for the world - we need a
technology which will scale!

What I like about Mediawiki is the tremendous power it puts in the
hands of the user - anyone with some HTML knowledge and an inclination
to innovate can do magic with Mediawiki - without the need to get
administration rights on the server etc.

I like your ideas to for a couple of standard page layouts. Already
some of this is happening from little innovations in WikiEducator
itself.

For example, Brent reworked the main page navigation and it has been
reused here:
http://www.wikieducator.org/FLOSS4Edu

and here:
http://www.wikieducator.org/WikiEducator:Evaluation_Plan_Outline

The real compliments for WikiEd are those where other wiki's start
using our layout ideas, as in the case of the One Laptop per Child,
summer of content project - see:

http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Summer_of_Content_2007

Smart folk like yourself, Brent etc could come up with a few smart
hacks for WikiEducator templates to manipulate layout in ways that are
easier for the average user.

If you have any ideas - let me know and I will see if COL can come up
with a little support to make this happen.

Cheers
Wayne

On Oct 2, 8:57 pm, mackiwg <WMackint...@col.org> wrote:

[Missan]

Dear Wayne,
I have a small clarification required:

In some pages created by us, we can see the 'edit' right there on the
right side. But, in others such as the tutorials, we do not see the
edit. For that we have to click the Edit tab on top of the page. How
is this done?

Sanjaya

[Wayne Mackintosh]

Good question!

The edit link on the right is generated when sections and subsections
are added to a page. That is when you add headings and sub headings.

The edit link on the right (which only appears if there is a subheading
on the page) will open a window to edit the subsection concerned.

The edit link on the top of the page will open a window to edit the
entire page.

In the case of a page that has no headings or sub-headings - you can
only use the edit tab on top of the page.

Hope this helps.

Wayne

[Derek Chirnside]

I've got a few ideas.
I have just got to cut down my typing.  :-)

What is needed is some simple cut and past pages.

Here are some wikipedia images I think should be standardly available:

Quotes:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Open-quotes-icon.png
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Close-quotes-icon.png

This is the kind of thing that may be appropriate in a page on poetry, but NOT in a page on physics.  :-)

Anyway, more later.  I'm gone until the weekend..  :-)

On 14/10/2007, mackiwg <WMack...@col.org> wrote:

Hey Derek,

I hope that they're paying you a little overtime - or is the time
you're spending over the weekend a few old geek habits?

Hmm.  Not really, just catching up.

I see Brent has jumped in with a few good pointers to some of the more
advanced technical stuff.

Yes.  Cool.  This I will look into.

You're right - Mediawiki is not the average paint-by-numbers, fill-in-
the-box type of website that will you the same page in twenty
different shades or positions <smile>.

Yes - but.  You are polarising my comment.  Templates is a taken word.  I like the idea of themes.

Themes for (say) overview pages, for two column pages, for sidebar magazine type pages . . .
For literature, poetry . . .

:-)

Enough for now, I'm just musing . . .
Thanks by the way Brent for your comment: the keyboard that never sleeps.  :-)

[mackiwg]

Derek -

Some cut and past pages is a good idea - we should definitely look
into this.

Would be even better it the images (like the quotations) were svg :-).

So a good place to start would be to look at the categories or
different types of content re layout and look & feel and then set up a
few layouts without content as such ....

Smart thinking.

Wayne

On Oct 18, 12:47 am, "Derek Chirnside" <derek.chirns...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> I've got a few ideas.
> I have just got to cut down my typing. :-)
>
> What is needed is some simple cut and past pages.
>
> Here are some wikipedia images I think should be standardly available:
>

> Quotes:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Open-quotes-icon.pnghttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Close-quotes-icon.png

>
> This is the kind of thing that may be appropriate in a page on poetry, but
> NOT in a page on physics. :-)
>
> Anyway, more later. I'm gone until the weekend.. :-)
>