I agree, the wiki discussions can get confusing when dealing with motions containing multiple facets, especially when conducted over multiple time zones over a short period of time. The technology is not ideal for complex and multi-faced debates -- but has the advantage of recording every edit with a date and time stamp which makes facilitates procedural rulings.
Yip, you're right the discussions can be confusing in the wiki and your point is well made given that you are a very experienced wiki user. I find the history tab very useful and adding the meeting pages to your watchlist helps me keep up to date with whats going on. (For members who are not sure about these features, you can find out more with our tutorials -- http://tinyurl.com/2bh3m3m
From the Chair, speaking procedurally I shall deal with your email and references to hidden agendas plus a request for an indication of the vote as a point of information.
As you know, I cannot direct what "I" want (in a personal capacity) from the Chair and therefore I must refrain from responding to your request. Regarding meeting procedure, speaking from the Chair, I would like the meeting to consider all the possible amendments to the current motion on the table (by listing these on the same page) and to achieve reasonable consensus on the wording of the motion the meeting would like to vote on. Further details and clarifications below.
For purposes of clarity (with apology for the long post):
- The agenda is the one approved by majority vote of Council linked from the home paqe of our meeting (http://wikieducator.org/Community_Council/Meetings/Third/Approval_of_agenda).
- Meeting procedure requires that the assembly debates the motion on the table to achieve the best consensus possible before calling the vote. As Chair my role is to ensure that the meeting focuses the debate on the issue tabled in one place in the wiki. I recommend that our Council should should work together in deciding the best way forward by formulating / agreeing an amendment which may be tabled -- the detail of the amendment is determined by the meeting. There are any number motions the meeting can consider, eg amending the motion, withdrawing the motion, deferring the motion etc. Currently the motion is on hold -- and the meeting can consider any of these alternatives on the page for Straw Dog 3 ( http://tinyurl.com/25ea8kl). The purpose of Straw Dog 3 is for the meeting to list any and all of the motions it thinks appropriate (including Leigh's out-of-order proposal). Then to debate and achieve consensus on the best way forward. Once the meeting has achieved some form of consensus on the item they wish to table, I will remove the hold on the current motion. Speaking personally -- I would like the meeting to assume a healthy dose of good faith.
- Point of clarity: Free cultural works licensing is a policy of WikiEducator. Freedom is a core value of the WIkiEducator project and the foundation on which this OER project is built. In the interests of transparency: freedom and our commitment to free cultural works licensing is a defining feature of our project and we will NOT be voting on these core values. I accept that there are many educators and members of our community who choose to use non-free systems and we respect that. We are not here to mess people around -- the Internet is a big place and every user is free to host their OER projects on any site of their choice. (Try blogger, wikispaces, or IT4ALL etc - - to the best of my knowledge, these projects don't have issues with closed file formats). Projects are also free to install their own Mediawiki sites and are free to install any extensions that will accept closed file formats - - forking is not unusual in the open source world.)
- Users are free to make a copy of WikiEducator's content resources (its freely available in open file formats) and this is our gift to society. -- They are free to copy our content, adapt and modify it for their own purposes, and if they like, they can convert the content to proprietary closed file formats. Everyone is free to do this as long as they attribute the creators. (Incidentally there is no requirement to ask WikiEducator's permission or any legal requirement to attribute WE in this regard). This is also a very transparent agenda since the project was founded -- to be clear, free cultural works licensing is not negotiable.
In terms of moving the meeting forward there are a few options for the meeting to consider (and I'm sure there are others I may not have thought about):
- Consider a motion of confidence with regard to the Chair - - this will gauge opinion among Council on whether or not I'm conducting the meeting fairly in accordance with meeting procedure. This should address any concerns you or others may have about hidden agendas. At any point the meeting may request a point of information or a point of order as has been done during the course of the meeting.
- Agree the amendment to the current motion on the table during this session.
- Other options may include a deferral to the next meeting or referral to a Workgroup to consider the formulation of a motion to be considered by special resolution at any specified time or the next meeting. (Note that every member of Council, including WikiEducators are free to participate in a Workgroup.)
Where the meeting goes is the decision of the meeting.
I'll post copies of these emails in the wiki.
Wayne Mackintosh, Ph.D.
International Centre for Open Education,
Otago Polytechnic, New Zealand.
Board of Directors, OER Foundation.
Founder and Community Council Member, Wikieducator, www.wikieducator.org
Mobile +64 21 2436 380
User Page: http://wikieducator.org/User:Mackiwg
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