Coleman 241's

[Andrew Potgieter]

Hi
I have three different versions of the 241 lantern justifying having more than one of a certain model.
As follows.

6    61
Brass pump cap
pump cap retainer screws
Steel pump knob
Steel collar
Nickled brass burner casting
Old style bail
Nickle brass filler cap and air release screw
Long bail lugs on burner casting.
Steel frame rest
The picture on the instruction sheet shows the clocking.


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Steel pump cap
Pump cap retainer screws
Steel pump knob
Aluminium collar
Nickle brass burner casting
Old style bail
Nickle brass filler cap and air release screw
Short bail lug on one side of the burner casting
Steel frame rest


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Steel pump cap
Pump cap retainer clip
Brass pump knob
Aluminium collar
Too well used to be sure but looks like un-nickled brass burner casting
New style bail
Painted nickle brass fiiler cap
Painted plain brass air release screw
Short bail lug on one side of the burner casting
Steel frame rest

[Andrew Potgieter]

Forgot to mention they are all 241G,s and can't edit from my phone

[Pharos]

Interesting that the 241A came first, followed almost a decade later by the 241G and then shortly afterwards the 241 no-letter.

[NeilM]

This is not so. 241 and 241A were introduced at the same time in 1948. 241 has a green painted fount and 241A is nickel plated both sold 1948-1951. Then there are models B, G and K. There is a later 241A with a green tank 1952-1957. 241B green painted tank chrome plated brass vent 1958-1965. 241G metalic green tank and aluminium vent  1957-1965. 241K same as G 1965-1968. ::Neil::

[Andrew Potgieter]

To throw a spanner in the works I have seen a 3 59 241 no letter.

[Pharos]

Very interesting document, Neil, and I am certainly open to correction.

The 4 seafoam green painted 241A models I have range from 5/52-6/56 while the two 241G's are 1/64 and 12/66, although I have heard of 241G's from as early as 1958. I am aware of only 4 or 5 241 no-letter lanterns (one is dated  8/58), all seafoam green, found by local members and at least one 241K

[NeilM]

Ah all I was really saying is that 241 came first concurrently with 241A. These later 241 I can't comment on with any certainty. Typical Coleman to have me guessing. I just wondered if these later examples were in fact 241K but the fact that there exists some maked as K kinda shoots that theory down. I think what we really need is local paper. Nearly all my Coleman info is from the US and that does not mean it is accurate for exports where there may well be differences and I suspect this is yet another case where Coleman Canada made a country specific lantern. ::Neil::

[MARTIN EYBERS]

I have perused the discussions posted during May 2017. The info supplied by NeilM is very informative.
I have three 241A's with nickle-plated founts, 1/50, 9/52 and 8/55 which has a brass nickle-plated ventilator. Two have original ceramic burner caps and TK66 generators.

I also have two 241A's, 1/50 and 8/55. The founts are painted blue and not seafoam green.

Lastly, I have other 241A's from 51 to 55. The painted on the founts has been stripped off exposing the brass. Should I paint them original colours- blue and seafoam green.

Any advice would be most welcome.

Regards
Martin

[NeilM]

Martin. A nickel plated 241 with a brass plated hood is 241B and a pretty rare lantern as it is the only one I know of with a collector. You have some interesting lanterns and it would be helpful if you could contact Terry Marsh tgm...@noctrl.edu. He has created a spreadsheet of 241s and I am sure he would like to include yours. ::Neil::

[Andrew Potgieter]

The brass vent lantern has a 241A collar and the threaded pump cap characteristic of a 241 A . I have seen a picture of a 241B with an aluminium vent as well.

[Andrew Potgieter]

I had a look at the picture of the 241 B and it also has a threaded pump cap.

[NeilM]

I am only going by what the paper gives me here. I have never seen a 241B but the flyer clearly states a brass vent and the image also shows it should have the model nuber on the collar. ::Neil::

[MARTIN EYBERS]

Hello Neil. Thank you for your response. I acquired the lamp at a flea-market. The collar indicates that it is a 241A. There was nothing to indicate that the lamp was anything but a 241A manufactured 8/55. However I cannot vouch for this as a fact. I will e-mail Terry Marsh and let you know what he says. 

Martin

[NeilM]

Can't argue with that so you have a 241A with a brass vent. Hoods been swapped at some time or maybe the factory fitted the "Wrong" hood. Either way that vent hood is special. I will note in the PLC that a mid '50s 241 has been found with a plated brass vent. ::Neil::