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Stanley

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Jun 15, 2007, 6:26:31 AM6/15/07
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Hola,

I just sent a comment to the FCC about something really important: it's called Net Neutrality. That's the idea that we should be able to reach any websites, content, and services we want, without interference from the companies that provide our Internet access.

For a long time, there were Net Neutrality rules in place at the FCC. But last summer those rules expired, and now major telecom companies are lobbying to stop their renewal. These companies want to create a "two-lane" information highway, where their own content (and that of businesses that pay steep fees) would reach people quickly via a "fast lane," and other content (like blogs and nonprofit or small business websites) would be stuck in a "slow lane."

Before the FCC decides whether or not to renew Net Neutrality rules, it has to take public comments -- but the comment period closes on June 15th! Can you take a moment to join me in speaking up?

Urge the FCC to protect the freedom of the Internet by clicking the link below.
http://www.commoncause.org/KeeptheInternetOpen

Some of America's wealthiest corporations are investing millions of dollars in their efforts to block Net Neutrality. People like you and I need to take this chance to tell the FCC that the Internet must be a democratic, open medium. That's what it was always meant to be.

If the telecom companies get their way, it could spell the end of free expression and innovation on the Internet.

Click the link below to send a message to the FCC before the June 15th deadline.
http://www.commoncause.org/KeeptheInternetOpen

Thanks for taking action to keep the Internet open to all!

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Julius Francis

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Jun 15, 2007, 7:53:05 AM6/15/07
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This is so hysterically funny that I had to check it out on Snopes.com, and sure enough, there it was – classified as True.

 

My 2c? If you block, or slow down traffic based on content, then you become responsible for content and timeous delivery of “premium content”. Yet this is already being done by ISPs worldwide, based on their individual customers’ preferences. It seems to me that this could be an attempt to wrestle the power that the ISPs currently wield, based on free market enterprise, and to put it in the hands of a single government. ( Like their proposals on Key escrow J)  That would be dangerous, because the very existence of the Internet depends on its indiscriminate nature. I think of other networks who tried this, like CompuServe and MSN, the latter having to be bailed out of bankruptcy twice by Bill Gates and then eventually discarded. So if it were implemented, then I have mixed feelings, even from an InfoSec point of view.

 

One thing we can be sure of: the Internet as we know it will die a slow death and cease to exist.  

 

 


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Karel Rode

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Jun 17, 2007, 2:56:59 AM6/17/07
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Hello, Is that Joe's Pitza?
Opperator "no, Joe's are not available right now, we can connect you
to one of our premium content proders Dominos, who have taken this
kind of subscription..."

So in the real world we will see this more and more. Go Google "the
four horsemen of the internet apocalypse" and see what you fins. More
on this also on the www.eff.org

PS I hate Pitza!

K

Hendrik Visage

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Jun 17, 2007, 4:44:28 PM6/17/07
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I recall Xsinet and Absa FreeInternet with the idea of "forced" ads
but free internet.

How about (ab)using that method and put your opposition's pages inside
frames etc.??

Just a thought, you haven't bought IP services, you've bought web
access (actually you're given it for free, we wil just give you some
ads and frames to go with it!!)

/me shall go and remove the blood drenched tongue from the cheek...

But back to the issue(s): People usually don't see the business
aspects of the internet w.r.t.
the packets that flow, but they see the web access etc.

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Hendrik Visage

Frans Sauermann

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Jun 18, 2007, 3:47:14 AM6/18/07
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Net neutrality ceased to exist once people went from dial-up to
broadband.
Dial-up enabled ISP's to make profit from the oversell ratio's of the
telecoms operators(Erlang http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erlang_distribution
).
With broadband, that gap is much narrower, and class of service is
already differentiated thanks to mechanisms such as Frame Relay, ATM
and MPLS.
Besides, the FCC is a US department, and hence only relevant to US
Citizens. Rather lobby ICASA to open up the competition a bit more and
visit http://mybroadband.co.za a bit more.

John Ward

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Jun 26, 2007, 8:55:49 AM6/26/07
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I think the days of a clean internet pipe are over!

As it is, the idiots from Telkom force ZA subscribers to spend more on the local connect to international than they can afford to spend. Bear it in mind now that you will have to find an upstream provider with the required services for the little amount of cash you have left. Then, you can still look forward to the bad service, your fiber going down for no good reason other than .. er.. we dont guarantee your service for short of 500% of the cost ;)

Oops .. i got side tracked... again but this is almost the same thing... is it not ?

The optimal place for people to insert forced bandwidth compliance and more..... your telkom interconnect / peering links
Local stipulations of internet interception may well provide the mechanism for people to insert the branding etc on your carrier pipe.

Let me guess, they'd want to outsource it to Haliburton or some other back handed oil revenue driven crowd
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Regards
John

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