just a little chat (warning may include "Sam Chien")

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jo

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Dec 31, 2005, 5:36:56 AM12/31/05
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Hi Helen, how are you? What is all this "FLOWEXPO CHINA 2006
International Exhibition on Valve,pipline,Fluid Engineering ang Process
Industry" stuff all about are you an engineer or is it just spam?

I've recently have been reading Five Ancestor Fist Kung Fu: The Way
of Ngo Cho Kun By Alexander L. Co. This book suggests that Chua Giok
Beng the founder of Ngo Cho Kun created the Sam Chien Form. "At that
time, there was no master in Fukien Province that could defeat Chua
Giok Beng in hand-to-hand combat. As to a result, many of the
established masters came to study under him and were thus influenced by
Ngo Cho Kun." .... "In Chuan Chiu, and other nearby places, many
adopted his sam chien form to the beginners curriculum." Perhaps this
is the answer to where the Sam Chien comes from, more digging required.

Happy New year Jo.

Helen Shen

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Jan 3, 2006, 3:20:50 PM1/3/06
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Happy New Year, Jo.

Those commercial were spam.

Thanks for the info, and it is interested to know the possible history
a bit. Forms may be created/evolved by gapping the learning, like some
SanShou forms for free sparring, or one-two-three steps sparring in
Karate/Taekwondo.

How's your Gongfu practice? I am at my 50s, this year my knees suddenly
changed on me, I still do whatever needs to be done but the knees don't
like to go up and down much for the heavy work. It was a shocking
experience for me. People rarely talk about this, but I won't feel what
was said even though I might have heard before.

A kid in my high school occasionally drops by to show me his WenChun
form, he said that he practices 2-4 hours a day and wants to go to
China later. I felt his enthusiasm and excitement. Were we there
before?

To me, martial art is about the life experience, to
grow/learn/recognize/know about our mental state and physical body and
our world. The thrill of understanding and feeling is worth of the
journey.

Best wishes,
Helen

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jo

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Jan 17, 2006, 11:33:51 AM1/17/06
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Hi Helen, my Gongfu training is sporadic to say the least, I do bits
and pieces when I can, family life comes first. It must be great to be
carefree like the kid you told me about to be able to train like that.
However I don't thing my body could cope with 2-4 hours a day of
training but I am upping my exercise as I over did the eating at
Christmas. I put on weight a lot easier nowadays. Can you tell me more
about his Wen Chun? I'm sorry to hear about you knees to what exactly
is the problem and what do you it down to? I have heard about Martial
artists in the West, developing problems with their knees. I mostly
practice Martial arts for enjoyment and because I believe it provides
all round fitness for mind, body and soul.

"The end matters most in the journey,
But it's the journey that matters most in the end" Old proverb

Oh I nearly forgot the is one thing that I wanted to ask you about. I
work with people with special needs and have recently been asked if I
would start a martial arts class, I am not a trained instructor and I
am wondering if you have any experience in this field and if you could
please give me some advice on teaching and syllabus. I am thinking of
teaching the Sam Chien (three wars) form and some San Shou (from White
Crane and Wing Chun). To balance this hard stuff, I thought about
incorporating some Qigong (possibly Taichi Shibashi or 8 pieces
brocade) but I have only learned Qigong from video and books, could I
do any harm with teaching these movements? Any advice would be greatly
appreciated. Jo

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