sheprobably is lola's mum but i reckon its possible it could be a title like how the whitebeard pirates call whitebeard dad and that lola is just an ally of the big mum pirates Jimmy recard 09:10, April 15, 2010 (UTC)
Considering the name, I think that she must be the sillouette with the blushed cheeks in the 4 sillouetes picture where the yonkou are metnioned by garp (the top sillouette on the current pic on the kaidou page)
First , we cannot be sure of the gender even from the name/nickname . What if the person is an okama or just flamboyant or people just asume they are female ? There are a lot of possibilities so it's best not to speculate .
For now we should probably just go with "Mom". The only sub up so far is Mangastream; and while it's good for getting the gist of the chapter, then exact translations are usually a bit different from what it has. So until we have a few more subs up, let's use the more common "Mom" instead of "Mum". If worst comes to worst, is it really all that hard to change?Gerokeymaster 20:53, April 14, 2010 (UTC)
It's almost certainly a nickname. Kaidou may not have a nickname, and Kidd uses Shanks's, Whitebeard's, and Blackbeard's nicknames in the same conversation. Anyway, like everyone is saying, let's just wait, and not jump to any conclusions. They'll be formally introduced soon enough...Gerokeymaster 20:53, April 14, 2010 (UTC)
Between these two, we know that one is a man and one is a woman. All speculation aside, it just takes a bit of common bloody sense to tell which is which. While the top could be a man, considering Kaidou is an okama (but considering Ivankov is their king, and they wouldn't introduce one more powerful than him, that's unlikely), it is absolutely impossible for the bottom one to be a female. Whether you want to use your common sense or not on that one, you just have to look at Oda's art style to realize that women don't look like that.
I still think that it's pretty obvious which is which. Women are drawn to be more round, while men are more angular. Women never have that kind of grin that Kaidou has. Like I said, while it's debatable the gender of the poofy-haired one, it's pretty clear that the other is male. The Pope 18:27, April 15, 2010 (UTC)
Well theres a edit war and we've just got two or three bits of info... Can we have the two person image restored to the page and then with all things checked out to be alright, lock the page to stop further wars until more info is out? Kaidou's page might also need this. One-Winged Hawk 15:13, April 15, 2010 (UTC)
Kaidou didnt take part either he only tried to stop whitebeard but he was intercepted by Shanks.Also Shanks didnt exactly take part he just went to stop the war(and he did so without using force).UsoppSpell 17:10, April 16, 2010 (UTC)
Okay , someone has once again changed most of the references to "hers" and "herselves" . I had the efrontery , being one of the seniors here , to put this into the page to dissuade people from continuing .
How do we know that there wasn't another 'a' behind Pappug's head when it wrote "Big Mam"? It makes more sense with "Mama" rather than "Mam" anyway. I'm not saying to switch to "Mama", but don't rule it out. Ryuzakiforever 22:31, January 12, 2011 (UTC)
The Romanization makes it look like it's mam, and not mama, though I thought the same thing. It's like the problem we had with Eustass Kid. We all thought there was a second D that was cut off ( like the real pirate spelled it) when really it wasn't there at all. There would have been at least a hint of an A if the jolly roger was blocking it.DancePowderer 05:55, January 13, 2011 (UTC)
Look at how Basil Hawkins's name is written in chapte 498. Part of the H and N are cut off but you can still tell what they are. Or X. Drake in the same chapter, only the tips of the E are visible, but the translation makes it apparent.DancePowderer 06:03, January 13, 2011 (UTC)
I know this could be speculation, but given the tree on Big Mam's flag, could she have an earth devil fruit? I mean Ace's crew flag had fire, and he was actually using fire logia fruit. Is it possible she could have earth logia or something? And given how big she looks ,which is pretty obvious in the silhoutte, It could fit. What do you guys think?
Can one of you members, add that she seemed to be somewhat different in the past, as i garps picture of the yonkou she not only had fewer and more square teeth but also had a straighter nose?195.1.67.181 17:51, December 26, 2011 (UTC)
Hey guys i thought you might wanna have a look on Big mom coloured, i got a hole new immage of her when i saw it. Looking at the black and white photo it looks like her head is bigger than her body, but after seing the coloured one it seems like she just have huge boobs, and is bending forward, while sitting in a chair. Please note that this is a fan made colouring and it's not official.
Was just wondering if anyone knew the date of Miyazaki's official retirement (or possibly an impending pervasive rumor of such) vs the dates of Big Mom's first on screen appearance (or accurate silhouette). What what they showed in the Fishman arc she does look like a generic Miyazaki witch. Bigger than everyone else, huge head, huge nose, bulbous, saliva, etc.192.152.24.115 09:18, August 28, 2015 (UTC)MFBK
Can we consider her a giant at this point? If you calculate it you can see Big Mom is about 11-13 meters, while sitting! We have seen large humans but this is way too large for a normal human (think that Dorry and Broggy are about 10-12 meters). Kaido and Moriah are 6 meters so they aren't giants, but 13 meters cannot be considered a normal heigh human.
And don't say "well it's speculation to say this" because we haven't seen any normal human reach the height of 10 meters. Saying that one piece humans can reach up to 10 meters is speculation in itself.
Yes but the statement that normal people higher than 10 meters are not giants it's speculation. With giants we have seen consistency, as anybody taller than 10 meters is a giant (there are giants small as humans but not humans tall as giant), but we've never seen any normal human reach that height. It's speculation to say humans can be over 10 meters tall.
Hmmm... so I guess that at this point we're coming at the conclusion that being tall is not the characteristic that makes a giant but they are giants for a completely different genetic reason. In that case we need to change the article of Giant.
No we don't need to change the article. I don't think you're getting the point. We don't know what classifies someone as a giant, whether it's for a different genetic reason or not. We don't know anything, therefore we're not putting anything in the articles, since anything would be speculation. Getting the point? Aurora[1] Yes? 13:55, August 30, 2015 (UTC)
It's exactly what me and Aurora came to say before. A giant is determined by appartaining to the species and not for being large. Also for the aproximated (that's why you quoted me wrongly, I said "about 11-13 meters) size I used Bobbin, a normal sized human, for reference. It's basic geometry in the end. We do need to put in her article she's very tall but not a part of the giant series. Let's say she's an incredibly tall human, even if we've never seen that before.
The difference here is, is that Corazon appeared in that chapter as a black silhouette with no introduction whatsoever. You simply can't compare the two situations. Big Mom was formally introduced and you can see her, whether you can see her full appearance or not (see Crocodile for a case similair to this). Adding the shadowed part is absolutely unnecessary. Aurora[1] Yes? 15:35, August 31, 2015 (UTC)
Big Mom wasn't formally introduced as we only know ever so slightly about her face and dress. We do not even have a good idea of her shape, heigh, face, hair, hair color and several other things which weren't clearly revealed. Maybe not under "shadowed" but we can't call this a full presentation. This is just a teaser for what will have to come.
Where do I start? Lucky Tim and I kissed our very understanding ladies on the cheek late Sunday night on route to the Montebello islands some 60 nautical miles off the Dampier coast. We had originally planned to head out a few days later however a fine weather window and some more favorable tides were too good of an opportunity to pass up.
We launched at fortescue on the high and were greeted with less than favorable conditions. The wind had come up and we only managed to make it to shoal island at 6 knots some 12 miles from the launch. We decided to pull in for the night and hope for a nicer morning, neither of us complained about the wet swags we had to sleep in that night.
Well we woke to some pretty awesome weather and were on our way pretty early on route this time to the montes. We made it within a couple of hours, the old rig was loaded with a lot of gear, probably over her limit but she handled it well enough, after all we had to be self sufficient for 5 days in total. On top of the camp gear we had 10 jerries of fuel , 2 large eskies full of block ice and all of our fishing gear.
The rest of the afternoon we spent flicking lures around some of the many bommies and points in the area, we caught heaps of fish on plastics and hard bodies it was heaps of fun. We had an awesome session on plastics and whiptail jigs with almost a fish per cast in a school of goldens. Was a blast!
Anyway after a relatviley fine transit through to shoal wherre we spent the night, we came home friday morning. Overall a bloody good trip. 4 days of good food, good company and a bloody awesome location. I realise now how much more time I need to uncover a lot of the secrets of this place, starting to get a few things sussed now. Cant wait until the next time
Great work with the story telling, nice photos too! Sounds like an awesome trip. There will be a lot of jealous metro fisho's reading this who are stuck on shore with this bad weather wishing we were all up there too!
How many hours of travel did it take yous to get to the montes all up?
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