Asbestos review

[anais.b...@gmail.com]

Dear all,

I thought I would drop an email following the survey done I live in one of the top floor flat and have access to the roof.

I can nearly hundred percent confirm that the roof is not made of tiles containing asbestos as they are made of stone I believe it is called slate and the top covering the top top roof is asphalt or something like this.

The company wants to come every year to check but I don't see why all of us will have to keep on paying them for an assumption they made that the tiles contain asbestos. As they look from the street.

I would suggest I call hamilton king and get them to come over and rectify their report and so they don't have to come every year or ask the company to send a swab so I can resend it back to have it tested.

Guys let me know what you think because I think this is ridiculous and if you are ever planning on selling your flat this survey should be attached and might impact buyers.

Regards,
Anais
Flat 10
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[phil miller]

Hi Anais,

We agree completely, I was at home when the surveyor visited and I had to let him in to the building because nobody from Hamilton King was present! I believe that they have been negligent in their duty to take reasonable steps to discover the presence of asbestos and saddle the leaseholder with this unnecessary charge, and also the stigma that the building contains asbestos which won't look good when people try to sell their flat.

As you say the roof tiles do not contain asbestos, this is clear just from looking on google earth. Unfortunately if no access is available to inspect the surveyor has to assume asbestos is present. This is entirely Hamilton King's fault and I believe they should cover the cost of a new survey making sure they arrange for proper access.

We have written to Hamilton king regarding this, but I think it would be good if as many of the leaseholders as possible do the same as they have a habit of ignoring us!

Kind Regards

Phil Miller

Flat 7

[Nick Brett]

Do you have a copy of the letter you sent? I'll fire one off in the similar vein if you do!

Thanks,

Nick (Flat 7)

M: 07932 722 068
A: 3rd Floor, 106 Leonard Street, London, EC2A 4RH.

[anais.b...@gmail.com]

Yes could you share your letter with us? I think it is stupid that they didn't ask to anyone to be in that day....or the cusodian...shouldn't thgat be is role? Also I have noticed that a beige cupboard has appeared in the courtyard infront of 23 it is dead ugly to see and apparently it is the custofian ... I will ask to have it removed because it ruins the whole image of the courtyard.

Will keep you posted and I think we should monitor better our expenses next time we receive them and ask for a detiled version so we can double check what they charge us for.

Regards.
Anais

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From: Nick Brett <loop...@gmail.com>

Sender: whel...@googlegroups.com

Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 12:44:50 +0100

To: <whel...@googlegroups.com>

ReplyTo: whel...@googlegroups.com

Subject: Re: Asbestos review

[Nick Brett]

I'll ask John next time I see him if it's his. He's a really nice guy, and will move it if its his and causing an issue. I'm sure if H King had asked him to be there to let the asbestos people in he would of been - I presume they didn't bother though. He's helped me out a few times and been more than happy to.

Also, the buzzer for 22 was broken and John fixed it simply by changing the fuse. I'll let him know 23's is having problems.

Nick (Flat 7). 

M: 07932 722 068

A: 3rd Floor, 106 Leonard Street, London, EC2A 4RH.

[phil miller]

I've pasted the text from my letter below.

I know John was aware of the faulty keypad when it last started playing up, I think he or somebody tried to fix it but it doesn't seem to of worked. My feeling is that it needs to be replaced. We are also still experiencing problems with the intercom, very loud buzzing/not releasing the front door, even after it was replaced last year.  

The filing cabinet does irritate me as well, I didn't realise it was John's I just thought it had been dumped. I emailed Hamilton King a few weeks ago about it but have had no response.

Kind Regards

Phil

Dear Sir/madam,

 

Thank you for your correspondence regarding the recent asbestos survey at 22-23 Wheler St. 

 

I am fully aware of the serious implications of the legislation concerning asbestos, which is why I am so concerned that an inconclusive inspection report (owing to a lack of access to the roof) has led to the building being saddled with the expense of a compulsory annual inspection, and also the stigma of “maybe” containing asbestos and all of the obligations that it lays on the dutyholder.

 

I know that adequate access to undertake the survey was not given to the inspector at the time of his visit, as I was the person who let him into the building owing to nobody from Hamilton King being present, and no roof access had been arranged. The presumption of asbestos being present should only be made after all reasonable steps have been taken to discover if asbestos is present. I don’t believe in this case that Hamilton King have fulfilled their duty to manage (as the freeholders' representative), and as a result they have incurred the leaseholders with unreasonable expense which they expect to be paid without question.

I believe that another inspection should be carried out, this time with all necessary access being arranged, so that a complete inspection of the building can be undertaken.

I look forward to your response on this matter.

Yours faithfully

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[David Snowdon]

Dear All,
 
I'm currently away and have just picked upthe emails regarding H King and the asbestos report.
Thank you for all you're doing and I entirely agree that the asbestos stigma must be removed completely.
I may have missed out on an earlier email so I'm not sure how this problem originated, but i'll also contact HK when i get back.
Regards,
David (Flat 3 No. 22)
 

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Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 14:46:20 +0100
Subject: Re: Asbestos review
From: pbrm...@gmail.com
To: whel...@googlegroups.com

[David Snowdon]

Hi Guys,

I've just received a reply from Hamilton King to say that one of the leaseholders let the surveyors into the roof space and that as a result of there visit they have determined that there is no asbestos in the building.

 

Many thanks to those who wrote to HK and to the person who gave the surveyors access as this is a great result. 

Best regards,

David Snowdon

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Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 12:41:39 +0100

Subject: Re: Asbestos review
From: pbrm...@gmail.com
To: whel...@googlegroups.com

[Anais Brunner]

Hi all,

it was me who gave the access to the roof chap was really nice and did the whole thing really quickly.

Just a quick reminder for everyone who lives in number 23 I have noticed that really often the door entrance to the block is open can everyone make sure when they enter or leave that the door is properly closed.

This summer I had my bike stolen in the courtyard would not fancy anyone coming into our flats.

Have a great evening

Anais flat 10

[Phil Miller]

Good news about the asbestos.

The door at number 23 has been a problem for years. It seems to take new tenants a while to figure out that it doesn't close behind them. We tried to get the freeholder to install a door closer, but have had no luck.

Phil  

[Nick Brett]

The door at 22 had the same problem - I just asked John the caretaker and he managed to fix it in 15 minutes. 

Turns out he worked in a car factory in Chile for years. Pretty hand with a tool kit!

Nick

M: 07932 722 068

A: 3rd Floor, 106 Leonard Street, London, EC2A 4RH.