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[Satabdi Das]

Hi,

Since wfsindia.in is taken, we need to quickly decide on a name. Both wfs-india.org and wfsindia.org are available. Does any of them sound good with you? And which one?

And we need a logo for our group. There are 2 ways we can go about it - 

1. make it ourselves - Mani, if I remember it correctly, did you volunteer for this?

2. hold a competition for it.

Please share your views,

Satabdi

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[Debamitro Chakraborti]

wfs-india.org booked for one year.

Let's get going on the site now.

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[Sumana Harihareswara]

On 05/22/2013 12:40 PM, Satabdi Das wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Since wfsindia.in is taken, we need to quickly decide on a name. Both
> wfs-india.org and wfsindia.org are available. Does any of them sound good
> with you? And which one?
>
> And we need a logo for our group. There are 2 ways we can go about it -
>
> 1. make it ourselves - Mani, if I remember it correctly, did you volunteer
> for this?
> 2. hold a competition for it.
>
> Please share your views,
>
> Satabdi
>

I think wfs-india.org is better because it doesn't have "sin" in it :-)
and I think it's fine for Mani to make a logo. Logo competitions are
usually more trouble than they are worth.

My two paisas. :-)

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[Debamitro Chakraborti]

now we need to find hosting. kaustavdm has suggested linode but that is expensive ($20/month).

should we go for shared hosting somewhere? 

net4.in is giving basic shared hosting with 500MB space at 30rupees/month. 

bigrock.in is giving unlimited space at 149rupees/month.

learned people please decide well and we'll go for something in the next few days.

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[Kaustav Das Modak]

On Wednesday 22 May 2013 10:38 PM, Debamitro Chakraborti wrote:
> now we need to find hosting. kaustavdm has suggested linode but that is
> expensive ($20/month).
> should we go for shared hosting somewhere?

> net4.in <http://net4.in> is giving basic shared hosting with 500MB space
> at 30rupees/month.
> bigrock.in <http://bigrock.in> is giving unlimited space at 149rupees/month.

> learned people please decide well and we'll go for something in the next
> few days.
>
>

Clarification. I had initially suggested a shared hosting provider, but
had seconded Tarashish's suggestion of linode, provided wfs-india has
enough funds. I had suggested Bigrock's plan as well, but if we want to
build the new site in Drupal7, it is better to have a chat with Bigrock
and see if what are the limits they impose on the shared hosting in
terms of:

a. MySQL usage: number of queries/minute OR number of simultaneous queries

b. Maximum allowed PHP memory limit

c. Availability of PHP extensions: PDO_MYSQL, php-mcrypt are required

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[A. Mani]

On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 10:27 PM, Sumana Harihareswara
<sum...@wikimedia.org> wrote:

> and I think it's fine for Mani to make a logo. Logo competitions are
> usually more trouble than they are worth.

OK, I will make the logo in GIMP + FX-Foundry.



Best

A. Mani


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[A. Mani]

On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 10:42 PM, Kaustav Das Modak
<kau...@codebinders.com> wrote:
> Clarification. I had initially suggested a shared hosting provider, but had
> seconded Tarashish's suggestion of linode, provided wfs-india has enough
> funds. I had suggested Bigrock's plan as well, but if we want to build the
> new site in Drupal7, it is better to have a chat with Bigrock and see if
> what are the limits they impose on the shared hosting in terms of:
>
> a. MySQL usage: number of queries/minute OR number of simultaneous queries
>
> b. Maximum allowed PHP memory limit
>
> c. Availability of PHP extensions: PDO_MYSQL, php-mcrypt are required

Awardspace is at $35/year

Unlimited Disk Space
Unlimited Traffic
2 Domains Hosting
2 MySQL(v.5) Databases
2 PostgreSQL Databases
PHP 5
Perl/CGI-BIN, Ruby, Python
Web Site Builder
Zacky 1-Click Installer (50+ Software)


hostgator is $40/year but without ssl

[Tarashish]

Digital Ocean provides VPS for $5/month. Features are:

512MB Memory
1 Core
20GB SSD Disk
1TB Transfer

Hostgator has a 20% discount and Bigrock has 40% discount now on their hosting plans.

[Kaustav Das Modak]

On Thursday 23 May 2013 01:14 PM, Tarashish wrote:
> Digital Ocean <https://www.digitalocean.com/> provides VPS for $5/month.

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Bigrock seems to be the cheapest as of now. Can you get in touch with
them and see if they meet our requirements?

[Kaustav Das Modak]

I've polished the source code for the IGLUG-Cal website and it is pretty
smooth now with minimum documentation. It can be reused now for the
wfs-india site if you guys want.

Thanks.

[Kaustav Das Modak]

On Saturday 25 May 2013 03:05 AM, Kaustav Das Modak wrote:
>>
>
> I've polished the source code for the IGLUG-Cal website and it is pretty
> smooth now with minimum documentation. It can be reused now for the
> wfs-india site if you guys want.
>
> Thanks.
>

The demo site for current source of IGLUG-Cal is
http://glugcal.kaustavdm.webfactional.com

If you want to fiddle around, use "test" as id and password to log in.

Cheers.

[A. Mani]

On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 3:05 AM, Kaustav Das Modak
<kau...@codebinders.com> wrote:
> I've polished the source code for the IGLUG-Cal website and it is pretty
> smooth now with minimum documentation. It can be reused now for the
> wfs-india site if you guys want.

For wfs-site my recommendations on themes:

https://drupal.org/project/mayo : (color: pink)

https://drupal.org/project/redsalute (was done by zyxware)

https://drupal.org/project/pixture_reloaded (color: red ) is very adaptable

(also depends on what we finally decide for glug-cal... we may keep
current test one with few adjustments)

[Satabdi Das]

I think we should have a page for ideas - yesterday we came up with quite a few ideas which we might not be able to implement on our 15 June event, but we can vote on them and plan to do them in future.

Something on the lines of - http://funnel.hasgeek.com

Kaustav, will this be possible? 

Also, will it be possible for us to have a page-wide look in Drupal? 

Regards,

Satabdi

[Kaustav Das Modak]

On Tuesday 28 May 2013 12:32 PM, Satabdi Das wrote:
> I think we should have a page for ideas - yesterday we came up with
> quite a few ideas which we might not be able to implement on our 15 June
> event, but we can vote on them and plan to do them in future.
>
> Something on the lines of - http://funnel.hasgeek.com

> <http://funnel.hasgeek.com/>

>
> Kaustav, will this be possible?

It will be. There are some readymade idea management solutions for
Drupal, but they are not quite steady. Best thing to do is to create a
custom content type and use the Rate <http://drupal.org/project/rate>
module for voting.

Each "idea" should have a title, description, vote up/down option and
place for people to put in their comments, right?

>
> Also, will it be possible for us to have a page-wide look in Drupal?

What is a page-wide look?

Also, as per our discussion yesterday, you will need to forward the
present domain's nameservers to webfaction so that I can install the
site and a new mailing list there.

[Satabdi Das]

On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 6:48 PM, Kaustav Das Modak <kau...@codebinders.com> wrote:

<snip>

Each "idea" should have a title, description, vote up/down option and place for people to put in their comments, right?

Yep. 

Also, will it be possible for us to have a page-wide look in Drupal?

What is a page-wide look?

 Single column like hasgeek or spreading the entire width - http://wiki.ubuntu-women.org/

Regards,

[Kaustav Das Modak]

>
> Single column like hasgeek or spreading the entire width -
> http://wiki.ubuntu-women.org/
>
>

Single column is possible by removing the sidebar blocks. In that case
the content column will stretch to take up the available area.

Entire screen width (fluid width) is not possible with the present
theme. The present one uses fixed widths for different screen sizes. If
we need a fluid width, like Ubuntu Women wiki, we will need to use/write
a different theme.

[Satabdi Das]

Single column is possible by removing the sidebar blocks. In that case the content column will stretch to take up the available area.

If we move the links on the left column (login etc, Jobs etc.) to the top and make them horizontal, will that involve too much of effort?

Entire screen width (fluid width) is not possible with the present theme. The present one uses fixed widths for different screen sizes. If we need a fluid width, like Ubuntu Women wiki, we will need to use/write a different theme.

Lets drop this idea then. We are taking the glugcal website because we are getting it without much extra effort and time.

Regards,
Satabdi

[Kaustav Das Modak]

On Tuesday 28 May 2013 10:51 PM, Satabdi Das wrote:
> Single column is possible by removing the sidebar blocks. In that
> case the content column will stretch to take up the available area.
>
> If we move the links on the left column (login etc, Jobs etc.) to the
> top and make them horizontal, will that involve too much of effort?

Do you mean move sidebar menu links to the top menu? There may be too
many entries for that. But it is not an issue. It is a simple task from
the Drupal backend.

>
>
> Entire screen width (fluid width) is not possible with the present
> theme. The present one uses fixed widths for different screen sizes.
> If we need a fluid width, like Ubuntu Women wiki, we will need to
> use/write a different theme.
>
> Lets drop this idea then. We are taking the glugcal website because we
> are getting it without much extra effort and time.
>

Don't drop it right now. I'm adding styles for multiple screen sizes,
which should stretch the layout based on various screen sizes. Give me
10 minutes for that. I'm working on it at the present. There is already
an issue on the GH issue tracker about fitting various screen sizes.
See: https://github.com/kaustavdm/glugcal/issues/4.

[Tarashish]

Uh oh, I just stumbled onto https://www.openshift.com/developers/pricing. It looks great. And they even state that their free account can run Drupal 7 apps with small traffic just fine.

Kaustuv, have a look if it's worthy.

And it looks trustworthy, because it is run by RedHat.

[Kaustav Das Modak]

Tarashish, Openshift has a specific API which you will need to use to
code your site. However, if your site/application is coded to work with
openshift, it cannot be used in other hosts without a large change in
the code.

I am not experienced with Openshift though. If there are other
developers here willing to port the present code to Openshift, I'll be
glad to assist and learn in the process.

[Tarashish]

On Tuesday, 28 May 2013 23:09:54 UTC+5:30, Kaustav Das Modak wrote:

Tarashish, Openshift has a specific API which you will need to use to
code your site. However, if your site/application is coded to work with
openshift, it cannot be used in other hosts without a large change in
the code.

I am not experienced with Openshift though. If there are other
developers here willing to port the present code to Openshift, I'll be
glad to assist and learn in the process.

Thanks.

Ok. Changing the code for just a specific platform would be totally unnecessary. And also, we probably don't have any other php developer here. 

[Kaustav Das Modak]

I've installed the glugcal source at http://www.wfs-india.org. Please
suggest:

1. colours: top-border, link, site name

2. content: layout for homepage, or, text for "Who we are?" block on
homepage and the "About" page. For all other pages.

3. menu items: top level items.

4. user registration: will it be admin-moderated?


Innerpages are single column as Satabdi had asked. Also, I have added
styles for larger screen sizes. So, the theme will stretch for 1600px
and above as well.

I've requested webfaction support to install a mailing list at
wfs-indi...@wfs-india.org. I've give Satabdi's email address as
the admin for the list. If everything goes smoothly, the list should be
installed by tomorrow.

Satabdi, Mani, please send me a list of users to add as moderators. Best
is to register on the site on your own and send me the id's to assign
proper roles.

Waiting for loads of feedback.

[A. Mani]

On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 2:14 AM, Kaustav Das Modak
<kau...@codebinders.com> wrote:
> I've installed the glugcal source at http://www.wfs-india.org. Please
> suggest:
>
> 1. colours: top-border, link, site name
>

I guess I can improve it.
Where exactly can the logo be placed?

> 2. content: layout for homepage, or, text for "Who we are?" block on
> homepage and the "About" page. For all other pages.
>
> 3. menu items: top level items.

Article

Resources

>
> 4. user registration: will it be admin-moderated?
>

ok if we have 3 admins.

Usual regn process should be via email confirmation.

Admins will have the option of blocking spammers

>
> Innerpages are single column as Satabdi had asked. Also, I have added styles
> for larger screen sizes. So, the theme will stretch for 1600px and above as
> well.
>
> I've requested webfaction support to install a mailing list at
> wfs-indi...@wfs-india.org. I've give Satabdi's email address as the
> admin for the list. If everything goes smoothly, the list should be
> installed by tomorrow.
>
> Satabdi, Mani, please send me a list of users to add as moderators. Best is
> to register on the site on your own and send me the id's to assign proper
> roles.
>
> Waiting for loads of feedback.

[Debamitro Chakraborti]

Hey Kaustav,

The site looks really good. We just need to reduce a bit of clutter and introduce some elegance by hiding unnecessary links, IMO. And we need to start creating content. What is the way to customise the look -- through some control panel or by hacking on the tpl.php. Please guide us so other devels apart from you can try out changes.

colors: pink is fine, but some feminists also criticise this stereotyping

menu items: one menu on the top is enough. Items for now can be Home | Wiki | Resources | Events | About us. Later on we can introduce Jobs Forums when we start them.

also we can hide the poll now and bring it up when the site is complete, maybe in a few weeks.

Regards,
Debamitro

On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 2:14 AM, Kaustav Das Modak <kau...@codebinders.com> wrote:

On Tuesday 28 May 2013 11:39 PM, Tarashish wrote:

On Tuesday, 28 May 2013 23:09:54 UTC+5:30, Kaustav Das Modak wrote:


    Tarashish, Openshift has a specific API which you will need to use to
    code your site. However, if your site/application is coded to work with
    openshift, it cannot be used in other hosts without a large change in
    the code.

    I am not experienced with Openshift though. If there are other
    developers here willing to port the present code to Openshift, I'll be
    glad to assist and learn in the process.

    Thanks.

Ok. Changing the code for just a specific platform would be totally
unnecessary. And also, we probably don't have any other php developer here.

I've installed the glugcal source at http://www.wfs-india.org. Please suggest:

 1. colours: top-border, link, site name

 2. content: layout for homepage, or, text for "Who we are?" block on homepage and the "About" page. For all other pages.

 3. menu items: top level items.

 4. user registration: will it be admin-moderated?


Innerpages are single column as Satabdi had asked. Also, I have added styles for larger screen sizes. So, the theme will stretch for 1600px and above as well.

I've requested webfaction support to install a mailing list at wfs-india-discuss@wfs-india.org. I've give Satabdi's email address as the admin for the list. If everything goes smoothly, the list should be installed by tomorrow.

Satabdi, Mani, please send me a list of users to add as moderators. Best is to register on the site on your own and send me the id's to assign proper roles.

Waiting for loads of feedback.

Thanks.


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[Satabdi Das]

Kaustav,

Great work!! And the site does look good being "page-wide"! :D

 1. colours: top-border, link, site name

Can we change the colour pink? It reinforces the gender stereotyping of associating women with pink and I think we should steer clear of such stereotyping. 

When the logo is ready we can match the colour of the logo. What say?

 2. content: layout for homepage, or, text for "Who we are?" block on homepage and the "About" page. For all other pages.

The present "Who are we" is okay. Did you make it?  

I really like the way Mailing List comes in a box. But the things on right of the mailing list and below "who are we" seem a little cluttered. To experiment, can we shrink the width of the left most column and see how it looks?

e.g. the options under the poll are coming on the right - I would like it to be left-aligned -just like the heading Poll.

Since the Forums link is already on the top, can we remove it from the left column?

Few thoughts:

1. Should we have a news flash section or an Events calendar or both? We can publicize events, conferences, hackfests etc in FOSS world

Then there will be events organized by us - which we would like to highlight in our website. 

2. If we can make something like http://jobs.hasgeek.com/ for the jobs section - where only FOSS related opportunities will be publicized - it will remove one responsibility from our shoulder - we can then only moderate the entries posted by various organizations.

In the jobs section we can also include - internship opportunities like GSoC and OPW. 

Regards,

[Kaustav Das Modak]

On 2013-05-28 17:39, A. Mani wrote:
> I guess I can improve it.
> Where exactly can the logo be placed?
>

The logo is placed on the left of the site name and slogan on the top
left corner of the header, i.e. on the left of the large "WFS-India"
heading.

>> 3. menu items: top level items.
>
> Article
>
> Resources
>

Okay.

>
>>
>> 4. user registration: will it be admin-moderated?
>>
>
> ok if we have 3 admins.
>
> Usual regn process should be via email confirmation.
>
> Admins will have the option of blocking spammers
>
>

okay. So users activate their accounts on their own. Account activation
does not need to go through admin approval, right?

Thanks.

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[Kaustav Das Modak]

On 2013-05-28 23:56, Debamitro Chakraborti wrote:

> Hey Kaustav,
>
> The site looks really good. We just need to reduce a bit of clutter
> and
> introduce some elegance by hiding unnecessary links, IMO. And we need
> to
> start creating content. What is the way to customise the look --
> through
> some control panel or by hacking on the tpl.php. Please guide us so
> other
> devels apart from you can try out changes.

Thanks :-) We definitely need to reduce clutter on the home page. That
is the reason I had asked if anyone can come up with a sketch of what
can be put on the homepage.

I've kept things simple for non-technical users. The home page is
designed using Panels. It does not use any custom tpl.php layout.
However, if we have a clear design idea of the homepage content, I'll
create a tpl.php for the homepage. It will be faster, more efficient and
easier to manager (for me).

There is a installation guide in the repo. However, the
configuration-to-code export is not complete. e.g. it does not export
block settings, theme settings and certain input method settings.
Otherwise, using the installation instruction, a developer can easily
make a local install, hack on templates and send me a PR.

The present theme is a subtheme of skeletontheme. I've overriden just
the parts I needed (e.g. footer) and extended the layout to stretch on
higher screen resolutions, and work better on lower resolutions.

The theme uses Drupal's "color" module to generate top border, heading
and text colours. There is some issue with hyperlink colours being
overriden by theme's CSS. I'll look into it.

>
> colors: pink is fine, but some feminists also criticise this
> stereotyping

I was not in favour of pink either because of the same steriotyping you
have mentioned. I have put it their based on Mani's initial suggestions.
It can be changed easily from the admin.

>
> menu items: one menu on the top is enough. Items for now can be Home |
> Wiki | Resources | Events | About us. Later on we can introduce Jobs
> Forums when we start them.

Okay. I'll add "Articles" to it as Mani had suggested.

>
> also we can hide the poll now and bring it up when the site is
> complete,
> maybe in a few weeks.
>

Consider every content there to be placeholders. I would like to
redesign the homepage to suit the needs of WFS-India. Can you please
suggest a layout?

Thanks.

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Partner,

CodeBinders Web Development Services LLP

Web: www.codebinders.com
Phone: +91.9874456551

[Kaustav Das Modak]

On 2013-05-29 00:56, Satabdi Das wrote:

> Kaustav,
>
> Great work!! And the site does look good being "page-wide"! :D

Hee hee :-D

>
>> 1. colours: top-border, link, site name
>
> Can we change the colour pink? It reinforces the gender stereotyping
> of
> associating women with pink and I think we should steer clear of such
> stereotyping.
> When the logo is ready we can match the colour of the logo. What say?
>

Yes please. The theme's base colours are neutral enough. I'll adjust
top-border, heading and font colours according to the logo. In the
meanwhile, please suggest colour. I'll add you as an admin.

>> 2. content: layout for homepage, or, text for "Who we are?" block on
>> homepage and the "About" page. For all other pages.
>
> The present "Who are we" is okay. Did you make it?
>

Oh yes. Just snipped some content from the blog post. :-)

> I really like the way Mailing List comes in a box. But the things on
> right of the mailing list and below "who are we" seem a little
> cluttered.
> To experiment, can we shrink the width of the left most column and see
> how it looks?

Yes we can. But shall we keep all the content that I have put on the
home page presently?

>
> e.g. the options under the poll are coming on the right - I would like
> it
> to be left-aligned -just like the heading Poll.

Good point.

>
> Since the Forums link is already on the top, can we remove it from the
> left column?

Yes.

>
> Few thoughts:
>
> 1. Should we have a news flash section or an Events calendar or both?
> We
> can publicize events, conferences, hackfests etc in FOSS world
>

Keep both. News flash would be where you post some important news about
WFS-india. Event may be something which WFS-IN or some other
organization hosts. Do you mean publishing feeds from other sites?

> 2. If we can make something like http://jobs.hasgeek.com/ [1] for the

> jobs section - where only FOSS related opportunities will be
> publicized -
> it will remove one responsibility from our shoulder - we can then only
> moderate the entries posted by various organizations.
> In the jobs section we can also include - internship opportunities
> like
> GSoC and OPW.
>

I can pipe feeds from other sites into a section called "Jobs". At the
present, Jobs needs manual input.

Thanks.

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Partner,

CodeBinders Web Development Services LLP

Web: www.codebinders.com
Phone: +91.9874456551

[A. Mani]

On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 12:10 PM, Kaustav Das Modak <kau...@codebinders.com> wrote:

Yes please. The theme's base colours are neutral enough. I'll adjust top-border, heading and font colours according to the logo. In the meanwhile, please suggest colour. I'll add you as an admin.

Logo(s) will be optimal with the color crimson/ black variant / very custom colors colors not blue, green or yellow .

Blue is too common web color for blue screen of death  :)

I am attaching a png of the many logo experiments. (I intend to bend it).

I also have a very complex formal version of the 2nd tif metal logo that I made for the Indian rough set society

Apparently it goes with the predominant white background.

Decide/suggest

best abbreviation for Logo?

Also my account is not getting enabled.

[Kaustav Das Modak]

On Wednesday 29 May 2013 09:58 PM, A. Mani wrote:

> Decide/suggest
>
> best abbreviation for Logo?

How about: WFS IN

>
>
> Also my account is not getting enabled.
>
>

Sorry, my mistake. I had assigned you the role, but forgot to mark
account as active. Should be fine now.

Btw, I have made registration available on email verification. Admin
approval will not be required any longer.

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CodeBinders Web Development Services LLP

[Kaustav Das Modak]

On Wednesday 29 May 2013 09:58 PM, A. Mani wrote:
>

> On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 12:10 PM, Kaustav Das Modak
> <kau...@codebinders.com <mailto:kau...@codebinders.com>> wrote:
>
> Yes please. The theme's base colours are neutral enough. I'll adjust
> top-border, heading and font colours according to the logo. In the
> meanwhile, please suggest colour. I'll add you as an admin.
>
>
> Logo(s) will be optimal with the color crimson/ black variant / very
> custom colors colors not blue, green or yellow .
> Blue is too common web color for blue screen of death :)
>

+1 for the BSOD comparison :-D

> I am attaching a png of the many logo experiments. (I intend to bend it).

We would need a logo with a transparent background that works well on a
light coloured background. Current theme's body background colour (as
well as header background colour) is white (#FFFFFF).

Maybe we can play with the typography and emphasize the letter "W". "W"
can be shaped like freedom. But the representation of freedom needs to
be in some interesting way, rather than the very familiar "V" shaped
ones, e.g. not like the ones you see on some common emergency
contraceptive brands.

>
> I also have a very complex formal version of the 2nd tif metal logo that
> I made for the Indian rough set society
> Apparently it goes with the predominant white background.
>

Can you try something which does not have a solid rectangular
background, and uses either full white or a transparent background?

Thanks.

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[A. Mani]

On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 10:25 PM, Kaustav Das Modak
<kau...@codebinders.com> wrote:
>
> We would need a logo with a transparent background that works well on a light coloured background. Current theme's body background colour (as well as header background colour) is white (#FFFFFF).
>
> Maybe we can play with the typography and emphasize the letter "W". "W" can be shaped like freedom. But the representation of freedom needs to be in some interesting way, rather than the very familiar "V" shaped ones, e.g. not like the ones you see on some common emergency contraceptive brands.
>
>
>>
>> I also have a very complex formal version of the 2nd tif metal logo that
>> I made for the Indian rough set society
>> Apparently it goes with the predominant white background.
>>
>
> Can you try something which does not have a solid rectangular background, and uses either full white or a transparent background?

Fine.

I will try transparent with custom fonts and limited effects on the
font/font effects with/wo shadow on fonts

Abbr : WFS ~ IN

and based on that I will adjust colors again.

Images will make the website less formal, so I am avoiding them
...though I have great CCSA ones from deviant art.

[Kaustav Das Modak]

On Wednesday 29 May 2013 11:17 PM, A. Mani wrote:
>
> Fine.
>
> I will try transparent with custom fonts and limited effects on the
> font/font effects with/wo shadow on fonts
>
> Abbr : WFS ~ IN
>
> and based on that I will adjust colors again.
>
> Images will make the website less formal, so I am avoiding them
> ...though I have great CCSA ones from deviant art.
>
>

Please use some nice typography if you don't want to use any
animations/vectors. I had thought the logo to be more of a
drawing/vector like thing which we can use along with the text header.
Otherwise, if the logo itself has the WFS-India name on it, we will not
need the header any more.

Just a though about being formal. We need the site to be somewhat
attractive as well. Given that it has a pretty drab theme, having a
jolly logo would help newcomers. Making it too formal might scare away
newbies, who might think the group to be too geeky.

Since Mani is already working hard on the logo here, is there anyone
else here to assist Mani on this? I am afraid my design skills are
rather limited to software architecture design :-)

[A. Mani]

It will help if the 'slogan' field font is made similar to header.
OR relative size of header font should be reduced so that the whole
name does not split across two lines.

Logo part with images is no issue. But I will take my time.

I am not making any new header as that would be interfering with the theme.

[Satabdi Das]

Sorry, am not going to be of much help here apart from commenting on the logo. :p

I would go for making the logo beautiful - something very nice to look at - something simple and elegant (I think I use these 2 words very often). Although I am not a fan of Mac, but I really appreciate their sense of aesthetics. 

[Satabdi Das]

Forwarding Shweta's mail. Comments anyone?

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: "Shweta Srivastava" <shwet...@gmail.com>
Date: May 30, 2013 1:46 PM
Subject: Re: website details
To: "Satabdi Das" <satab...@gmail.com>

Hi Satabdi,

I tried making a logo for WFS Indian, that I have attached with the mail. Since, I m using gimp first time I could not change the color of it. This is just a suggestion please have a look.

Regards,
Shweta

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[Kaustav Das Modak]

On Friday 31 May 2013 09:53 AM, Satabdi Das wrote:
> Forwarding Shweta's mail. Comments anyone?
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Shweta Srivastava" <shwet...@gmail.com
> <mailto:shwet...@gmail.com>>
> Date: May 30, 2013 1:46 PM
> Subject: Re: website details
> To: "Satabdi Das" <satab...@gmail.com <mailto:satab...@gmail.com>>
>
> Hi Satabdi,
>
> I tried making a logo for WFS Indian, that I have attached with the
> mail. Since, I m using gimp first time I could not change the color of
> it. This is just a suggestion please have a look.
>
> Regards,
> Shweta
>

Shweta,

The first version looks nice. Can you do these changes and see how it looks?

- Use the Open Sans Light font
(http://www.fontsquirrel.com/fonts/open-sans)
- Make the logo colours match red and black?

Thanks.

[Tarashish Mishra]

Wow! The first one looks really great!

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[Shweta Srivastava]

Hi Kaustav

Thanks, I made the changes... hope it looks fine now.

Regards,

Shweta

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[Kaustav Das Modak]

On Friday 31 May 2013 02:42 PM, Shweta Srivastava wrote:
> Hi Kaustav
>
> Thanks, I made the changes... hope it looks fine now.
>
> Regards,
> Shweta
>
>

Good work Shweta! I hope you have the face and the text on different
layers? Can you try interchanging the colours between the face and the
text? So the text becomes black, and face gets different shades of red.
Use similar red that you have used for text.

Originally the idea was to keep only an abbreviation of the name in the
logo. However, since you have included the full name in the logo, can
you make the logo text 2 points larger?

Also, is it possible to do something with the logo that gives a hint of
technology and progressiveness? Playing with typography is an option.
e.g. See this logo:
http://registry10.com/images/products/All_Women_Painting_logo1.jpg

[Aruna S]

The logo looks beautiful!

[A. Mani]

On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 2:42 PM, Shweta Srivastava
<shwet...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks, I made the changes... hope it looks fine now.
>

fine, it is simple and good.

The forehead is a bit too arched.. but fine.


I was almost decided on
$\Huge{\mathbf{\mathcal{WFS_{IN}}} }$ to eps to xcf
with the attached great image
+ a set of transforms on the result

I think we should use Shweta's new version.

[A. Mani]

The attached HSV variant looks brighter, bolder, compatible and
attractive compared with
the black + bright red.

opinions?


It helps to get the highlights right :)

[Kaustav Das Modak]

On Friday 31 May 2013 09:07 PM, A. Mani wrote:
> The attached HSV variant looks brighter, bolder, compatible and
> attractive compared with
> the black + bright red.
>
> opinions?
>
>
> It helps to get the highlights right :)
>
>

I like the shades :-) Also, why not keep the WFS-India text in a
consistent colour? Can you share the XCF?

Also, a small "integration" idea: Why not make the end of neck touch the
dot on the lower case "i" in "India"? That way, the logo gets more
compact, and you have a link between the face and the text.

[A. Mani]

On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 9:17 PM, Kaustav Das Modak
<kau...@codebinders.com> wrote:
> I like the shades :-) Also, why not keep the WFS-India text in a consistent
> colour? Can you share the XCF?
>
> Also, a small "integration" idea: Why not make the end of neck touch the dot
> on the lower case "i" in "India"? That way, the logo gets more compact, and
> you have a link between the face and the text.

I have asked Shweta for the xcf of the grey + red version.
Mine was made via her png to xcf to jpeg. So some info was lost.

Yes, can change the color of the letters and move it

[Satabdi Das]

I really like the way Mailing List comes in a box. But the things on
right of the mailing list and below "who are we" seem a little cluttered.
To experiment, can we shrink the width of the left most column and see
how it looks?

Yes we can. But shall we keep all the content that I have put on the home page presently?

It would be good if we can put less things but the most important things in the home page. Here are my thoughts - 

1. Since we do not have any resources, can we remove it?

2. I think it would look really nice if we can reduce the no. of links on top horizontal menu. Can we keep a footer - and a menu bar in there to contain all the other links. Does this sound bad?

Few thoughts:

1. Should we have a news flash section or an Events calendar or both? We
can publicize events, conferences, hackfests etc in FOSS world

Keep both. News flash would be where you post some important news about WFS-india. Event may be something which WFS-IN or some other organization hosts. Do you mean publishing feeds from other sites?

For now, we are only publicizing our events - which can be covered in the events section. And the upcoming events can be displayed in the middle column. Could you please share what kind of news can be shared through Newsflash.

An events calendar will contain all the FOSS events that we come to know of. It will display the hackfests, hackathons, conferences, workshops in FOSS and will also include the events organized by us.

May be we can have something like this - http://adainitiative.org/what-we-do/event-calendar/ 

Lets discuss about it on the irc channel.

2. If we can make something like http://jobs.hasgeek.com/ [1] for the

jobs section - where only FOSS related opportunities will be publicized -
it will remove one responsibility from our shoulder - we can then only
moderate the entries posted by various organizations.
In the jobs section we can also include - internship opportunities like
GSoC and OPW.

I can pipe feeds from other sites into a section called "Jobs". At the present, Jobs needs manual input.

Should we term it FOSS jobs/ FOSS opportunities? 

 

[Kaustav Das Modak]

On Saturday 01 June 2013 03:10 PM, Satabdi Das wrote:
>
> I really like the way Mailing List comes in a box. But the things on
> right of the mailing list and below "who are we" seem a little
> cluttered.
> To experiment, can we shrink the width of the left most column
> and see
> how it looks?
>
>
> Yes we can. But shall we keep all the content that I have put on the
> home page presently?
>
> It would be good if we can put less things but the most important things
> in the home page. Here are my thoughts -
>
> 1. Since we do not have any resources, can we remove it?

done.

> 2. I think it would look really nice if we can reduce the no. of links
> on top horizontal menu. Can we keep a footer - and a menu bar in there
> to contain all the other links. Does this sound bad?

+1. I'll remove excess clutter. Later on we can modify the looks, but
for now I'll keep things simple.

I'll make things ready for you to start adding content.

>
>
> Few thoughts:
>
> 1. Should we have a news flash section or an Events calendar or
> both? We
> can publicize events, conferences, hackfests etc in FOSS world
>
>
> Keep both. News flash would be where you post some important news
> about WFS-india. Event may be something which WFS-IN or some other
> organization hosts. Do you mean publishing feeds from other sites?
>
> For now, we are only publicizing our events - which can be covered in
> the events section. And the upcoming events can be displayed in the
> middle column. Could you please share what kind of news can be shared
> through Newsflash.

My idea of a NewsFlash was more like "news" from WFS-India, that is
neither a event nor a casual writing. e.g. members of WFS-India getting
selected for GSoc can be a "news". "NewsFlash" is just a flashy name for
it. :-)

>
> An events calendar will contain all the FOSS events that we come to know
> of. It will display the hackfests, hackathons, conferences, workshops in
> FOSS and will also include the events organized by us.
>
> May be we can have something like this -
> http://adainitiative.org/what-we-do/event-calendar/

A calendar layout can make things look very empty if you don't have many
events. So I would suggest you keep the Events page a blog-like view
similar to other categories for now. Later on, we can do a calendar.

>
> Lets discuss about it on the irc channel.
>
> 2. If we can make something like http://jobs.hasgeek.com/ [1]
> for the
>
> jobs section - where only FOSS related opportunities will be
> publicized -
> it will remove one responsibility from our shoulder - we can
> then only
> moderate the entries posted by various organizations.
> In the jobs section we can also include - internship
> opportunities like
> GSoC and OPW.
>
>
> I can pipe feeds from other sites into a section called "Jobs". At
> the present, Jobs needs manual input.
>
>
> Should we term it FOSS jobs/ FOSS opportunities?
> Satabdi

FOSS Jobs +1

Cheers.

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[Satabdi Das]

+1. I'll remove excess clutter. Later on we can modify the looks, but for now I'll keep things simple.

I'll make things ready for you to start adding content.

That will be great! 

My idea of a NewsFlash was more like "news" from WFS-India, that is neither a event nor a casual  writing. e.g. members of WFS-India getting selected for GSoc can be a "news". "NewsFlash" is just a flashy name for it. :-)

Can we move the NewsFlash in a box similar to mailing list and put it below/above mailing list box? 

An events calendar will contain all the FOSS events that we come to know
of. It will display the hackfests, hackathons, conferences, workshops in
FOSS and will also include the events organized by us.

May be we can have something like this -
http://adainitiative.org/what-we-do/event-calendar/

A calendar layout can make things look very empty if you don't have many events. So I would suggest you keep the Events page a blog-like view similar to other categories for now. Later on, we can do a calendar.

Agreed. 

Satabdi

[A. Mani]

On Sat, Jun 1, 2013 at 6:50 PM, Satabdi Das <satab...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Can we move the NewsFlash in a box similar to mailing list and put it
> below/above mailing list box?

Our events go to News Flash

We will be having reports of events of WFS and other organizations
possibly in FOSS News

Events of other organizations go to FOSS News/News flash.

While say reports on activities like gsoc go to FOSS News
Articles, tutorials go to articles

It suffices if menu items correspond to sufficient description (they
can populated later).

I will look into some aspects and add forms etc soon