Time to get up, stand up
roger satterthwaite
monk can face down a machine gun, I can type out
a letter or two. Honor your school and your
heritage. Not another Tiananmen Square!
http://www.amnestyusa.org/actioncenter/actions/uaa25007.pdf
Pop a few letters in the mail. Takes 5 minutes
and a few stamps.
http://www.amnestyusa.org/By_Country/Myanmar_Burma/page.do?id=1011205&n1=3&n2=30&n3=955
On the latter link, you can send easily send an
e-mail to George W. Bush letting him know you
want the US government to keep up the pressure on
the bastards that currently run Myanmar. Lord, I
am actually applauding W and Condi for their
strong statements condemning the military
crackdown!
We're a bunch of middle aged parents now. Is the
fire still in the belly? Screw complacency. Get
up, stand up.
Roger W. Satterthwaite
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Thanks for the push.
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Etymology
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Main article: Names of Burma/Myanmar
The name “Myanmar” is derived from the local short-form name Myanma Naingngandaw.[2] This name was used as early as the 12th century, but its etymology remains unclear.
In 1989, the military junta officially changed the English version of the country’s name from Burma to Myanmar, along with changes to the English versions of many place names in the country, such as its former capital city from Rangoon to Yangon. The official name of the country in the Burmese language, Myanma, did not change. Within the Burmese language, Myanma is the written, literary name of the country, while Bama or Bamar (from which “Burma” derives) is the oral, colloquial name. In spoken Burmese, the distinction is less clear than the English transliteration suggests.
The renaming proved to be politically controversial.[3] Burmese opposition groups continue to use the name “Burma” since they do not recognise the legitimacy of the ruling military government nor its authority to rename the country. Some western governments, namely those of the United States, Australia, Ireland, and the United Kingdom, continue to use “Burma”, while the European Union uses "Burma/Myanmar" as an alternative.[4] The United Nations uses “Myanmar”.
Use of “Burma” and its adjective, “Burmese”, remains common in the United States and Britain. Some news organisations, such as the BBC and The Financial Times, still use these forms.[5][6] MSNBC, The Economist, The Wall Street Journal and others use “Myanmar” as the country name and “Burmese” as the adjective. The Newshour with Jim Lehrer is not entirely consistent: Lehrer used to call the country Myanmar but now uses the phrase Myanmar—also referred to as Burma. Reporter Ray Suares, who has been reporting on recent events in Burma, now calls it Burma. The expert guests use various terms, but most use Burma.
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Paul Savage
Perhaps we can take a page from Prince and call it the country formerly known as Burma?
roger satterthwaite
RWS
--- Paul Savage <phsa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Perhaps we can take a page from Prince and call
> it the country formerly
> known as Burma?
>
>
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: Westt...@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:Westt...@googlegroups.com] On
> Behalf Of Weigel, Molly
> Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 10:48 AM
> To: Westt...@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Time to get up, stand up
>
>
>
> Looked up the etymology of Burma/Myanmar in
> Wikipedia...quite interesting,
> check it out. The political opposition uses
> Burma.
>
>
>
>
> Etymology
>
>
> Main article: Names of Burma/Myanmar
>
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_of_Burma/Myanmar>
>
>
> The name "Myanmar" is derived from the local
> short-form name Myanma
> Naingngandaw.[2]
>
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myanmar#_note-CIA>
> This name
> was used as early as the 12th century, but its
> etymology remains unclear.
>
> In 1989, the military junta
>
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_Law_and_Order_Restoration_Council>
> officially changed
>
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geographical_renaming>
> the
> English
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_language>
> version of the
> country's name from Burma to Myanmar, along
> with changes to the English
> versions of many place names in the country,
> such as its former capital
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_city>
> city from Rangoon to Yangon
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yangon> . The
> official name of the country in
> the Burmese
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burmese_language>
> language,
> Myanma, did not change. Within the Burmese
> language, Myanma is the written,
> literary name of the country, while Bama or
> Bamar (from which "Burma"
> derives) is the oral, colloquial name. In
> spoken Burmese, the distinction is
> less clear than the English transliteration
> suggests.
>
> The renaming proved to be politically
> controversial.[3]
>
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myanmar#_note-steinberg>
> Burmese opposition
> groups continue to use the name "Burma" since
> they do not recognise the
> legitimacy of the ruling military government
> nor its authority to rename the
> country. Some western governments, namely those
> of the United States,
> Australia, Ireland, and the United Kingdom,
> continue to use "Burma", while
> the European Union
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Union>
> uses
> "Burma/Myanmar" as an alternative.[4]
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myanmar#_note-1>
> The United Nations uses
> "Myanmar".
>
> Use of "Burma" and its adjective, "Burmese",
> remains common in the United
> States and Britain. Some news organisations,
> such as the BBC
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BBC> and The
> Financial Times
>
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Financial_Times>
> , still use these
> forms.[5]
>
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myanmar#_note-statedept>
> [6]
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myanmar#_note-2>
> MSNBC
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MSNBC> , The
> Economist
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Economist> ,
> The Wall Street Journal
>
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wall_Street_Journal>
> and others use
> "Myanmar" as the country name and "Burmese" as
> the adjective. The Newshour
> with Jim Lehrer
>
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Newshour_with_Jim_Lehrer>
> is not entirely consistent: Lehrer used to call
> the country Myanmar but now
> uses the phrase Myanmar-also referred to as
> Burma. Reporter Ray Suares, who
> has been reporting on recent events in Burma,
> now calls it Burma. The expert
> guests use various terms, but most use Burma.
>
>
>
> _____
>
<http://www.amnestyusa.org/By_Country/Myanmar_Burma/page.do?id=1011205&n1=3&
> n2=30&n3=955> &n1=3&n2=30&n3=955
>
> On the latter link, you can send easily send an
> e-mail to George W. Bush letting him know you
> want the US government to keep up the pressure
> on
> the bastards that currently run Myanmar. Lord,
> I
> am actually applauding W and Condi for their
> strong statements condemning the military
> crackdown!
>
> We're a bunch of middle aged parents now. Is
> the
> fire still in the belly? Screw complacency. Get
> up, stand up.
>
> Roger W. Satterthwaite
>
>
>
>
>
>
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taking my son to soccer matches, and writing projects that I don't spend
enough time on these things.
However, I'm going to use another vehicle than AI, which has strangely
and imprudently managed to alienate many of its previously long-time
supporters by recently taking a stance on an issue that vexed my
favorite twentieth century person, Mother Teresa, who if anyone earned
the right to comment on any social issue.
bds
P.S. When I get back from taking junior to Chinese class, I guess my
inbox will be filled with diatribes about dupes of patriarchy, etc.etc.
It would more interesting to discuss the recent news about her dark
night of the soul.
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The Amnesty (and Physicians for Human Rights - my
other activist organization) letter writing
campaigns for individuals are successful...
sometimes. Success appears to be related to
volume. Content is not nearly as important as
volume. One doesn't even really need to write a
letter - just cut and paste a previously written
letter into a Word document, put in your name and
address and put the letter in the mail. I used
this tactic when I ran AI in med school. This
takes very little energy and time.
I've gotten a few personal letters from people
who have been let out of jail in Argentina and
Africa over the years. Amazing.
I don't expect to overthrow the Burmese regime
(thanks Charlie). I want to save one or two
people from execution and torture. Maybe you do,
too. One can do so by bearing witness.
I, too, have too many mundane busy items that
consume my most precious resource -time . By all
means, pick and chose what is important to your
time - to the ever decreasing amount that you
have to spend on your planet.
I knew Ben would have something smart to say. But
thanks for any letters you send. Brian, thanks
for your effort, whatever pathway you chose.
And nice to hear from all of you.
Roger
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roger satterthwaite
are). You are incorrect in some regards.
Life is full of hypocrisy - so what? I save a
life today - because that patient's insurance
fits my business plan. I have more than one shirt
in my closet - and children die in Africa and
Central LA for the want of pennies for vaccines.
You say you have no time to write - and yet take
the time to write that you have no time to write.
Swords - I've held them and I've hung them up all
ready. I know how to kill and I know how to save
lives - hypocrisy? The latter is harder to learn.
Letters have saved lives. Sometimes the lives are
close by, sometimes far away.
Is Iraq far away? Is Burma far away? Montgomery?
Soweto? Srebenica? Auschwitz? Vietnam?
Strange reasoning.
Roger--- Francis Gallo <knfg...@earthlink.net>
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roger satterthwaite
Thousands of hours spent working in public
hospitals in LA - just numbs my mind to think of
the time I spent with zero sleep, sometimes
losing it with yet another shot up, drunk,
asshole tattoed gangbanger coming through C-booth
- Trauma Central at LA County - at 3 am and yet
trying to do the right thing the next morning for
that illegal, zero money, mexican lady with
gallstones (her eight kids all crying or making
noise that she crammed into the exam room with
her), gaming the system to get her operation in
with a bunch of burnt out Country bureaucrats in
my way
The videos of Burma brought to me the same anger
and rage I felt when I was in medical school and
Tianenmen Square went down. I suppose that my
experience in the military makes the sight of
armed organized troops shooting unarmed
protestors visceral for me. There is too much
pain in the world to shoulder all at once and by
oneself- I take my little piece and I share it
with you. You have your little piece - share it
with us, too.
My mid-aged crisis has nothing to do with
material goods, a sports car or a trophy wife -
I've done all that. Its the burial of my spririt
with day to day crap.
Brilliant - huh. I've met brilliant people. I'm
not one of them.
Thanks for your time.
Roger
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Francis Gallo
I have no time to write. I do. I am simply struck at how voiceless I
become in my efforts. Give me no credit for what I have not said. I
apologise for the arcane reference to swords. Again I have been
misinterpreted. In the play Othello he meets a group of men who have
come to arrest him with drawn swords. He tells them 'put up your
(bright) swords or the dew will rust them.' This is widely
interpreted as "Save your efforts for something that will reward them
with a just result." This only is the witchcraft I have used. I have
listened to the latest developments in this situation in Myanmar. The
diplomatic recourse has been further diminished by an appropriately
salient revelation (vis Iraq) that western nations are loath to
impart sanctions where highly desirable oil fields lie. By the term
"inescapable hypocrisy" I use the term as simply defined by the
Dorling Kindersly
dictionary which, if my memory serves me, defines it as the
assumption of standards to which one's behavior does not conform. A
more forgiving definition than the one you seem to presume. By the
word 'inescapable' I refer to that which we are all participants of,
I have not meant to be accusatory by any means. I am surprised you
have read such an ingenuous interpretation into this. Look, the world
finds our efforts at effecting a resolution in Myanmar laughable in
light of our candidacy as global terrorists. We can be much more
effective in our influence if we set the example we wish others could
follow. Stay close to the ground, as the ancient mystics claim, and
change can begin.
who ever you are
Wood, Sam
sam
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Weigel, Molly
Thanks for sharing a little bit of your piece of the pain, as Roger called it.
I just wanted to say that I believe letters, for causes near and far, do help, although it may seem hopeless at times. They help for several reasons. They can show leaders that the world is watching, or at least that we are. Maybe this effect is slow and incremental, but it is there. But from my experience, writing letters, like volunteering at a soup kitchen, can also create a shift in us. By writing a letter or volunteering we open ourselves to others, feel our connection with them and our own vulnerability and caring. Having more people open is good for the world as well as for us. One step at a time.
Now I'm going to bow out--I have to conserve emotional energy for making it to the end of my first month of field placement at a psychiatric partial day program (while holding down my regular job and helping my son adjust to middle school). I'm finally doing the MSW I first thought of seriously 18 years, 1 PhD in English, and another lifetime ago! Love it. Whew!
Respect and best wishes to all.
Molly
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Carol Ejzak
I think Kate’s husband Fran is using that email address now…. I will cc: Kate on this.
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It's very important to do good both locally and internationally. They're not exclusive.
One thing we might forget about when carrying out bigger ideals is to take five minutes to hear out that lonely coworker who others regard as a vexation, or not to gesticulate at obnoxious drivers. (I have a lot of work to do on the latter.) Small actions have ripple effects.
Or to develop a mindset in which one basks with serenity, and commitment to other people, in the gloria mundi that is the nitty gritty of boring everyday life.
bds
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roger satterthwaite
if your son ever wants to know anything about
prostate cancer in addition to his new found
Burma knowledge, I've got a few Power Point
presentations....
Actually, my plan is to match Don Wildman's DVD
CV with a few videos of my own profession at the
next reunion!
RWS
--- Charles Hurd <churd...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I've never been part of someone's curriculum
> before! Wow. :-)
>
> Thanks for the kind words, Cornelia.
>
> -- Charlie
>
>
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>
> I just wanted you all to know I made my 17 year
> old read all our emails connected to this topic
> as a real-life history lesson. I hope he finds
> himself among peers who are as intelligent,
> compassionate and varied in their approaches. I
> feel blessed and challenged knowing you all,
> and interested in knowing you better. Thank you
> Charlie, thank you Roger, thank you Sulyn.
> Cornelia.
>
>
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are weary of this dialogue. I wanted to share my experience traveling
through Burma in 1985 to throw yet another light on this saga. Burma had
recently opened up to foreign travelers so I bought a ticket. In Bangkok I
was encouraged to purchase a fifth of Johnny Walker and a carton of
cigarettes prior to boarding the airplane. When we arrived, the customs
agent checked us through, then he walked to the other side of the barrier
and bought our cigarettes and Johnny Walker from us in local Burmese
currency, rather than the tourist currency. With this 'black market' money
we had the flexibility to travel outside of the standard touristed areas
which were tightly managed by the government. During this week we traveled
back in time over 100 years. We rode in stage coaches, we traveled down the
Mekong river for several days sharing the deck with generations of families
and their livestock, we saw oxen plowing the fields, or carrying the
families possessions to market. But mostly we saw monks in their saffron
robes devoting their lives to some of the holiest religious sites in all of
Asia. These people were all very, very poor in our terms - they had very few
material possessions. In fact Monks are suppose to carry all of their
possessions on their bodies. Yet their lives were rich with a sacred way of
living that permeated everything they did each day. I was riding in a
bicycle rickshaw driven by a young boy who spoke some English. At the end
of the 'taxi' ride, he handed me a small ruby, which are plentiful in Burma.
I had nothing to offer him in return since money has virtually no value. He
shrugged and smiled and said my gift had been speaking English with him. I
later mailed him English books as payment. The Burmese people's greatest
poverty is their isolation from the rest of the world and their repression.
At that time there was very little if any news from the outside world,
except what they could glean from travelers. It was rumored that one monk
had asked a traveler if it was true that a man had walked on the moon(!) I
share this with you to help to put a "face" on Burma and to begin to
understand the struggles they are enduring. The struggle against
repression is very different than the struggles faced by the inner-city poor
in our own country. Keep in mind that millions of people all over the world
would gladly swap their situation for those of the inner city poor in the
US.
Best-
Marnie
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