Emerge Trust site

[Steph Beath]

Ok - well - hands up who's feeling guilty about not having finished this site (me me me).  Can we meet this week sometime to make a plan for finishing it off?

Steph

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M: 027 245 5859
F: 04 976 8794
Twitter/Skype:  stephbeath

[Reed Wade]

(previously sent using wrong from addr..)

yes, me too

-reed

[Kristina Louis]

<hangs head in shame>

[Bryony Hall]

Yeah me too. I have the guilt.
I can catch Monday or Tuesday evening :) or sometime in the weekend

What do you guys think about Skyping, can you do group skypes? That might be a bit easier.

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Twitter: @bryony
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[Julius Charles Serrano]

Hi all.

I like the idea of Skyping. I'm now in Manila, so joining you guys in
Skype would be all right for me.

Thanks.

Julius

[Steph Beath]

How about Tuesday evening we meet in the real world somewhere that has free wireless and we skype Julius in (by text probably easiest in a cafe setting - or voice if in an office)? 

 

5:15pm?  How did the Lido work out as a location for the UX bookclub?

 

Cheers,  Steph

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Information Architect/Interaction Designer
Comsen Ltd
P: 04 970 7868

[Reed Wade]

that date/time works for me

last I recall, Jason was knee deep in something productive looking. I
think I kind of lost track around then.

-reed

[Steph Beath]

Yep - here is the link for the site as it stands today http://hellonearthis.byethost3.com/

[Jason Kiss]

Tuesday around 5:15pm works for me, too.

FYI, as my internets went away last night, I'm now sitting in the
Southern Cross using their free CafeNet wifi. Works fine so far. Likely
won't have access again until tomorrow afternoon, ideally before 4:30pm,
assuming TelstraClear is able to fix things.

If everyone ends up confirming for tomorrow around 5:15pm, and I've not
replied to the list by, say, 4:15pm, can someone please give me a
ring-a-ding at 9735477 to let me know that we are on? Thanks!

Re the site, not too much left to do regarding development work, though
there are some simple architectural and blog feature questions, answers
to which will help Brett and me finish on that front. These questions
were posted to Teambox.

Cheers,

Jason

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www.accessibleculture.org
twitter: @jkiss

[julie Metivier]

Not sure if my previous email reaches everybody :)

Happy for a catch up too. I've been lost still my journey in China!
Would come at 5.30pm on Tuesday!

Cheers
Julie

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Shop: toonshop.spreadshirt.com

[hellonearthis]

I might be able to skype in as well.

Brett

On Oct 17, 8:54 pm, Julius Charles Serrano <julius.serr...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi all.
>
> I like the idea of Skyping. I'm now in Manila, so joining you guys in
> Skype would be all right for me.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Julius
>

> On 10/16/10, Bryony Hall <bryony.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Yeah me too. I have the guilt.
> > I can catch Monday or Tuesday evening :) or sometime in the weekend
>
> > What do you guys think about Skyping, can you do group skypes? That might be
> > a bit easier.
>
> > On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 10:23 AM, Kristina Louis

> > <kristina.lo...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> >> <hangs head in shame>

>
> >> On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 9:01 PM, Reed Wade <reedw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>> (previously sent using wrong from addr..)
>
> >>> yes, me too
>
> >>> -reed
>

> >>> On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 3:45 PM, Steph Beath <stephbe...@gmail.com>

[Julius Charles Serrano]

My skype ID is Julius_Charles.

Would be great to have your skype IDs too.

Thanks!

Julius

[hellonearthis]

My skype ID is 'hellonearthis'

[Steph Beath]

My skype ID is 'stephbeath' - we'll skype you in as well Brett (had forgotten you live at a distance from Swellingtown).

 

I called the Lido and they don't have wireless there. Can anyone bring a laptop with mobile broadband on it? Otherwise we should find a different venue. I'm happy to go to Southern Cross (just need to find a quiet corner - which shouldn't be too hard on a Tuesday).

 

Thoughts anyone?

 

Steph

--
Information Architect/Interaction Designer
Comsen Ltd
P: 04 970 7868

[Reed Wade]

I didn't think to toss my little machine in my bag today -- otherwise
I could've. Southern Cross?

-reed

[Tim McNamara]

As a heads up, Southern Cross has reverted to Cafenet for their Internet.

[Bryony Hall]

I forgot to say Lido was a bit cramped and noisy for book club so probably better that we go to the Cross, lots of room there :)

[Steph Beath]

Okey dokey - Southern Cross from 5:15(ish) it is then.  Is anyone bringing a computer?  I don't have any of mine with me today and sounds like neither does Reed.  Kristina?  Bryony?  Jason?  Julie?

 

Steph

[julie Metivier]

Sorry I don't have any laptop with me today and I will arrive a bit later.

2010/10/19 Steph Beath <steph...@gmail.com>

[Bryony Hall]

I don't have a laptop either - we could try to use speaker phone on an iphone though

[Kristina Louis]

Sorry I don't have a laptop. Only a huge HP at home which won't start up again if we turn it off...

[Bryony Hall]

Forgot to mention - I have skype on my iphone so we can try that ... see you all soon :)

[Steph Beath]

Plan is bryony and Kristina to upload content to dev site, reed and Julie to functionally test site and see if they can break it (if that's ok with you Julie?), then we get emerge to work on the rest of the content whilst Jason and Julius accessibility test the site (if that's ok with you Julius?) and we simultaneously user test the site with anyone and everyone we can lay hands on. I will write a script for user testing and I'll also do content guidelines to provide to emerge. We'll meet on skype (all of us from the comfort of our homes) next Tuesday at 8pm.

Steph Beath

027 245 5859

Sent from my iPhone.

[Bryony Hall]

Hi all,
Kristina and I are going to start putting content on the site, but we need login url & login/password to start managing the content, Brett can you help us out with this or point us in the right direction?
Thanks heaps,
Bryony

[Jason Kiss]

Are we still on for this evening on Skype?

My Skype username is jwkiss

Talk to you all later.

Jason

[Bryony Hall]

I'm not going to be able to make this evening as something has come up :(
I'm free on Thursday evening if anyone wants to catch up about content (which I should have loaded to the site by then)

[Kristina Louis]

I'll be around but I don't know how to load stuff to the site, so there won't be any new content to look at (not there, anyway). Bryony, maybe we can catch up about that. Or maybe someone can enlighten me tonight.

Is there an agenda or rough idea of what we are covering in this meeting?

My Skype username is kristinalouis2 (there may be a dot between the first & last names).

Only other thing is I have to be off in time for Outrageous Fortune :)

-Kristina

[Bryony Hall]

Hey Kristina, you're right, we should catch up about that but  I'll forward the content management login details to you if you want to add anything :)

[Steph Beath]

Hi all - I've been sick since our last meeting. Totally wiped out until Sunday in fact. So I haven't started the script yet. I will start it tonight though.

Shall we postpone until Thursday night in light of there being nothing new to discuss tonight?

Cheers, 

Steph Beath

027 245 5859

Sent from my iPhone.

[Jason Kiss]

I'm happy to postpone until Thursday.

Jason

On 26/10/10 18:09, Steph Beath wrote:
> Hi all - I've been sick since our last meeting. Totally wiped out until Sunday in fact. So I haven't started the script yet. I will start it tonight though.
>
> Shall we postpone until Thursday night in light of there being nothing new to discuss tonight?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Steph Beath
> 027 245 5859
>
> Sent from my iPhone.
>
> On 26/10/2010, at 11:08 AM, Bryony Hall<bryon...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hey Kristina, you're right, we should catch up about that but I'll forward the content management login details to you if you want to add anything :)
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 10:17 AM, Kristina Louis<kristin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I'll be around but I don't know how to load stuff to the site, so there won't be any new content to look at (not there, anyway). Bryony, maybe we can catch up about that. Or maybe someone can enlighten me tonight.
>>
>> Is there an agenda or rough idea of what we are covering in this meeting?
>>

>> My Skype username is kristinalouis2 (there may be a dot between the first& last names).

[Kristina Louis]

Me too.

-Kristina

[julie Metivier]

Hello,

Sorry for the delay and for sending comments by email. I don't know where to insert them in Teambox.

In the homepage, I thought the block's title or the areas were clickable. Yet, the links are the text lines under. It's a bit confusing and not really aesthetic. Could we put the link only on the title for each box or on the block area (with a negative effect on the rollover) and keep the text in grey? Or should I review the homepage design?

Concerning the sub menu on the left: All the links are in orange even the current page. This is a bit confusing for the visitor as we don't know which page is currently displayed. Here is the CSS to keep the link in orange and the current page title in dark grey:
.current_page_item a {
color: #333333;
}
In the design, there was a bigger padding on the left. Why this one has not been respected? Same question for the arrow which would appear on the left of the title if there is another level?

Another comment related to the menu. When a subpage is displayed, the title of the top page in the menu is no more highlighted. For instance, go to the page "Our people". This could be changed with this:
.current-page-ancestor a {

background:#EB8320 url(/wp-content/themes/emerge/images/bgmenuorange.png) repeat-x scroll left bottom;

color:#FFFFFF;

}

Finally, a drop menu is appearing under How we can help, but not under "About us", nor "Blowing our trumpet" .What is the logic behind this choice?

And a little change for the background:
#wrapper {
background:transparent url(images/footergradient.png) repeat-x scroll left bottom;
padding-bottom:20px;
}

body {
background:#D4D4D4 url(images/bg.jpg) repeat-x scroll center 228px;
}

html {
background-color:#C1C1C1;
}
You will find the new background image (for creating a tile background) in teambox

Cheers,
Julie

[Jason Kiss]

Hi Julie,

Started playing with it as per your instructions. Still some changes to
make.

Re: the blocks on the homepage, if the blocks' titles are links,
shouldn't they also be underlined, to be consistent with all other links
on the site? This, of course, changes the design. I can implement some
JavaScript so that the blocks themselves are the links, in which case,
what colours would you like for background, title, and text and images?

I will also address your other concerns, but have to run right at the
moment.

Thanks for uploading the new images.

Cheers,

Jason

[Jason Kiss]

> In the homepage, I thought the block's title or the areas were clickable.
> Yet, the links are the text lines under. It's a bit confusing and not really
> aesthetic. Could we put the link only on the title for each box or on the
> block area (with a negative effect on the rollover) and keep the text in
> grey? Or should I review the homepage design?

Titles in the blocks are underlined links. If different behaviour (e.g.,
having entire block area linked) is desired, please provide more details
on the visual effects for the different states, i.e.,
hover/focus/active/visited.

>
> Concerning the sub menu on the left: All the links are in orange even the
> current page. This is a bit confusing for the visitor as we don't know which
> page is currently displayed. Here is the CSS to keep the link in orange and
> the current page title in dark grey:
> .current_page_item a {
> color: #333333;
> }

Current page item now in dark grey. I also changed it so that it is not
even a link, and thus has no underline. This serves to further indicate,
and in a programmatic way, that it is the current page.

> In the design, there was a bigger padding on the left. Why this one has not
> been respected? Same question for the arrow which would appear on the left
> of the title if there is another level?

Padding on the left now bigger as indicated in
http://s3.amazonaws.com/teambox-assets/assets/38234/original/3columnsgrey.jpg

Regarding the arrow if there is another sub-level, as I understand it,
the left-hand subnav no longer reproduces the main site menu, but only
lists those pages within the section, and that all links to every page
in the section are always visible. Again, this can be changed if new
instructions are provided.

>
> Another comment related to the menu. When a subpage is displayed, the title
> of the top page in the menu is no more highlighted. For instance, go to the
> page "Our people". This could be changed with this:
> .current-page-ancestor a {
> background:#EB8320 url(/wp-content/themes/emerge/images/bgmenuorange.png)
> repeat-x scroll left bottom;
> color:#FFFFFF;
> }

Fixed.

>
> Finally, a drop menu is appearing under How we can help, but not under
> "About us", nor "Blowing our trumpet" .What is the logic behind this choice?
>

Leaving this one for someone else to answer, as it's not clear to me
either :)

> And a little change for the background:
> #wrapper {
> background:transparent url(images/footergradient.png) repeat-x scroll left
> bottom;
> padding-bottom:20px;
> }
>
> body {
> background:#D4D4D4 url(images/bg.jpg) repeat-x scroll center 228px;
> }
>
> html {
> background-color:#C1C1C1;
> }
> You will find the new background image (for creating a tile background) in
> teambox
>

New background implemented. I changed the new bg.png to a JPG, reducing
its filesize from 526Kb to 85Kb.

And I omitted the html{background-color:#C1C1C1;} rule as it has no
effect since the rule on the body element already sets a background
colour to the entire page.

[julie Metivier]

Hey Jason,

Thanks a lot for all your work. All is perfect.

Just attached to his email a print screen to let you know why the below CSS line was necessary :)
html {
background-color:#C1C1C1;
}
... I know, my screen resolution is not usual! But I'm probably not alone to have a large screen.

Concerning the arrow, it's typical aesthetic to highlight the open down level menu. No matter if this is the first and second level or the second and the third level!

Hope too someone would reply to the question about the drop down menu / menu on the left :) Meanwhile, if there is no objection, we should implement a drop down menu everywhere or not at all. Indeed, during the design, I've done two different versions: one with the drop down menu and one with the menu on the left. Seems like nobody has chosen one or another version :)

[Jason Kiss]

On 03/11/10 10:15, julie Metivier wrote:

> Just attached to his email a print screen to let you know why the below CSS
> line was necessary :)
> html {
> background-color:#C1C1C1;
> }
> ... I know, my screen resolution is not usual! But I'm probably not alone to
> have a large screen.

Good one. Done.

>
> Concerning the arrow, it's typical aesthetic to highlight the open down
> level menu. No matter if this is the first and second level or the second
> and the third level!

The sub-nav tree is always expanded and the nested levels are indented
to visually indicate the levels, so my only concern with placing a down
arrow is that it might be expected to be functional, that is, clicking
it would collapse the menu, but we've not implemented
expandable/collapsable sub-nav tree menus.

That said, if you want the down arrow next those sub-nav list items with
nested sub-nav links, I can certainly do so :)

>
> Hope too someone would reply to the question about the drop down menu / menu
> on the left :) Meanwhile, if there is no objection, we should implement a
> drop down menu everywhere or not at all. Indeed, during the design, I've
> done two different versions: one with the drop down menu and one with the
> menu on the left. Seems like nobody has chosen one or another version :)

"About Us" now has a dropdown menu, and I've gone ahead and added one to
"Contact Us" as well (but can be removed if anyone has objections).
Blowing Our Trumpet doesn't, in my opinion, lend itself to a drop down,
as it doesn't have any similar sub-pages, unless you can suggest what
should appear in the dropdown for that menu item.

New Questions for Julie:

1. Can you please provide the green plant image for the "Become an
Emerge Supporter" block on the home page?

2. Can you please look at the contact form on the "Send us a Message"
page and provide any design instructions you might have? It's got a
little work left to do on it (mainly some margin/padding and background
colouring of the text inputs), but any suggestions you have will be
appreciated.

Thanks,

Jason

[Jason Kiss]

Hi all,

We will be having another meeting on Skype at 8pm on Wednesday the 17th.
It's been working quite well, so if you can make it, please do.

Here are the Skype names we have so far:

julie.metivier
hellonearthis (Brett)
bryony.hall554
julius_charles
kristina.louis2
stephbeath
jwkiss

If you're not listed there, let us know yours so we can get you in on
the group chat come Wednesday evening.

Cheers,

Jason

[Kristina Louis]

Sorry I can't actually make it next week - I have ineluctable commitments on both Wednesday & Thursday nights. I do like that word.

Let me know what comes out of the meeting.

-Kristina

[Steph Beath]

I will be there :)

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[Jason Kiss]

Hey Group,

Not much happened tonight on skype, for various reasons. If you can make
it, we are scheduled to try again on Wednesday the 24th at 8pm. Would be
great if you could make it, at the least just to help us clear up any
loose ends as we near the finish.

Steph is working on her test script, and we should discuss a few points
about the hand-off to Emerge (e.g., documentation, tutorial, server
info, etc.), and whatever remains.

Looking forward to skyping with you next week.

Cheers,

Jason

PS - If you're planning on joining the chat, and haven't participated in
any of the skype chats we've had thus far, please respond to this email
with your skype username. Thanks!

[Bryony Hall]

Sorry I didn't make it last night :( family debacle meh
See you next week all!

[Jason Kiss]

Hope you all get this.

I attended the Emerge launch party this evening, and just wanted to pass
along their appreciation for all of the Wgtn IT Volunteers' work. They
are very happy with the site.

Cheers,

Jason

On 17/10/10 16:54, Bryony Hall wrote:
> Yeah me too. I have the guilt.
> I can catch Monday or Tuesday evening :) or sometime in the weekend
>
> What do you guys think about Skyping, can you do group skypes? That might be
> a bit easier.
>

> On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 10:23 AM, Kristina Louis
> <kristin...@gmail.com>wrote:
>

>> <hangs head in shame>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 9:01 PM, Reed Wade<reed...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> (previously sent using wrong from addr..)
>>>
>>> yes, me too
>>>
>>> -reed
>>>
>>>

>>> On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 3:45 PM, Steph Beath<steph...@gmail.com>

>>> wrote:
>>>> Ok - well - hands up who's feeling guilty about not having finished this
>>>> site (me me me). Can we meet this week sometime to make a plan for
>>>> finishing it off?
>>>>
>>>> Steph
>>>>
>>>> -----
>>>> M: 027 245 5859

>>>> F: 04 976 8794
>>>> Twitter/Skype: stephbeath
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

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Email: ja...@accesscult.org
Twitter: @jkiss