Is this project dead?

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kenshen112

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Sep 28, 2012, 9:17:40 PM9/28/12
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Is this project dead?

Ger Romero

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Sep 28, 2012, 9:22:37 PM9/28/12
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Indeed, I mean indead.

El 28/09/2012 20:17, "kenshen112" <finalfant...@gmail.com> escribió:
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> Is this project dead?

Sam Black

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Sep 28, 2012, 9:31:24 PM9/28/12
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On 29/09/12 02:22, Ger Romero wrote:
> Indeed, I mean indead.
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> El 28/09/2012 20:17, "kenshen112" <finalfant...@gmail.com
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>> Is this project dead?
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Eh? Its dead when Ben pronounces it dead, and no death certificate has
yet been issued :P

At the moment he's working on FirefoxOS, and those changes will have a
positive effect on Webian.

So no, not dead, just hibernating.

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Thanks,

Sam
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Ben Francis

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Sep 30, 2012, 4:19:23 PM9/30/12
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On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 2:17 AM, kenshen112 <finalfant...@gmail.com> wrote:
Is this project dead?

As Sam said, no it isn't :)

In fact I'm in the process of porting Shell from Mozilla Chromeless to Boot to Gecko. Since B2G reached feature freeze on Friday, the next phase of the Webian project can really get started! Moving from an experimental labs platform to the well-supported mozilla-central branch of Gecko, and moving towards something more like a desktop distribution of Firefox OS.

See the 0.2 milestone on Github for an idea of what's coming in version 0.2. It's mainly going to involve porting across existing functionality to B2G, with a few new features and slightly different UI https://github.com/webianproject/shell/issues?milestone=1&state=open

Cheers

Ben

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Ray Thompson

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Oct 12, 2012, 7:35:26 PM10/12/12
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For all intensive purposes, it is dead. The bunch of the web site links are going to dead pages that give you error codes like 404 and 403 pages..... No new updates nor patches, no install instructions, no support..... It's either dead, the developer is lazy and out of touch with users or a really poor coder. And come on, how long can something remain in beta or testing or the  developmental stages?

phil jones

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Oct 25, 2013, 8:53:40 AM10/25/13
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So where are we now? Is Webian still a thing or has it folded into Firefox OS?

I went looking today for someone who might be doing a FirefoxOS for laptops distro : http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/97478/a-chromebook-like-distro-based-on-firefox-os

I know this isn't Mozilla Labs' priority, but does Ben's connection with Mozilla mean that there's still some faction that is interested in such things? How much work would it be to make a "firebook" from firefoxOS?

regards

Phil

Ben Francis

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Oct 25, 2013, 9:57:37 AM10/25/13
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On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 1:53 PM, phil jones <inte...@gmail.com> wrote:
So where are we now? Is Webian still a thing or has it folded into Firefox OS?

I haven't forgotten about Webian.

I've spent time recently working on mockups for the UI of Webian Shell 0.2 with an app grid, unified search bar and multiple tabs per app (http://webian.org/dev/wiki/Shell/Design/0.2).

Building this on top of B2G means replacing the entire system app from Firefox OS which is not a small amount of work. On the Firefox OS project the browser (of which I'm the module owner) has recently been merged into the "systems front end" team so I'm now on the team that works on that app. This is because as part of the Haida initiative (https://wiki.mozilla.org/FirefoxOS/Haida) the browser app is being merged into the system app.

In implementing this I hope to learn more about the system app in Gaia to better understand what would be necessary to replace it with Webian Shell.

Another challenge is getting a working development environment set up which lets you replace the system app and debug it.

This is still a side project for me so I make no promises about timelines, but the idea of Webian is still very much alive for me :)

Ben

brendan....@gmail.com

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Dec 28, 2016, 6:18:10 PM12/28/16
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Are you still working on this project or is it gone? I like the concept and really would love to make it a standalone OS. 

Ben Francis

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On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 11:18 PM, <brendan....@gmail.com> wrote:
Are you still working on this project or is it gone? I like the concept and really would love to make it a standalone OS.

Webian has been in hibernation for a while, but I think it might be about time for it to wake up.

I had started work on implementing version 0.2 of Webian Shell based on B2G OS, and I had a pretty nice development environment set up using Mulet. But last year Mozilla decided to remove all B2G code from mozilla-central which means it probably isn't a good basis to build on any more.

For a while I've been considering building a tablet version of Shell, an idea which I also worked on for a while as Project Tablet at Mozilla. There's a working prototype of this which is also built on B2G OS and can be flashed onto an Android tablet. Project Tablet has also been discontinued as a Mozilla project.

My latest idea is to re-build this prototype on top of Android Things, which is basically a version of Android that only runs one app. I haven't got very far with this and I'm not yet sure how much of it would need to be re-written in Java as an Android app.

Separately, I'm also considering re-starting the home server part of the Webian project as "Webian Home", following some other work I've been doing on Project HomeWeb. Again, nothing much to share yet.

If you have ideas about how to package the desktop version of Shell as an OS then I'm interested in that too, but with B2G going away it has become more challenging, at least with the current JavaScript implementation.

Ben

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