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Graham Easterling

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Jun 18, 2026, 4:30:11 AM (6 days ago) Jun 18
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Typical recent morning cloud base.

Marazion this morning
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Below the cloud the visible is generally good or even very good.

Sennen - Cape Cornwall is around 5 miles
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But once you rise into the cloud it's frequently been <400m. It was very thick above 50m when I drove to Helston on Tuesday. At sea level on the prom you could see several miles down the LIzard.

The forecast tends to give up trying to predict where the cloud base is a and just forecast poor for everywhere. It has been generally a very low cloud base rather than sea fog. There was a patch of sea fog in Pernzance yesterday afternoon. Lands End airport has had it's heaad relentlessly in the cloud since Monday, causing havoc with the flights. They should fly from Sennen beach at low tide!

It's very muggy!

Graham
Penzance

Ashley haworth-roberts

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Jun 18, 2026, 9:28:38 AM (6 days ago) Jun 18
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The Met Office and UKHSA have issued amber heat alerts for parts of England including the south west - and somewhat to my surprise they're already in force (I had expected upgraded and/or expanded heat alerts to come into force from Sunday). (I suppose an amber heat alert would not produce a higher temperature in west Cornwall than a yellow heat alert would in Leicester or Nottingham.)

Freddie

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Jun 18, 2026, 10:36:06 AM (5 days ago) Jun 18
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It's purely the UKHSA who issue heat health alerts, nothing to do with the Met Office.
It's a heat health alert, not a temperature forecast.  The population demographic comes in to any calculation of alert level, along with things like pre-existing NHS demand.
The level is an indication of the likely impact on health services due to the weather.  Amber on these warnings decodes as medium likelihood of medium impacts.  Yellow as medium likelihood of low impacts.

Tl;DR: You are misinterpreting the warnings.

Graham Easterling

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Jun 18, 2026, 12:37:37 PM (5 days ago) Jun 18
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In Cornwall the big difference between the BBC forecast (which has been consistently low) and the MetO forecast (which has been consistently accurate) during warm/hot spells continues. This irrespective of which coast, and whether the wind's onshore or offshore/

For Penzance next week - wind tending onshore
                          BBC    MetO
Monday             22        26
Tuesday            21        24
Wednesday      21        23

For Newquay (offshore wind)
                        BBC    Meto
Monday            24       28
Tuesday           21       26
Wednesday     22       26

I assume meteogroup are aware.

Graham
Penzance 

Graham Easterling

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Jun 18, 2026, 12:38:56 PM (5 days ago) Jun 18
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Correction, Penzance MetO forecast for Wednesday is 25C.

Graham

Ashley haworth-roberts

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Jun 18, 2026, 5:09:12 PM (5 days ago) Jun 18
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Freddie

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Jun 19, 2026, 1:42:02 PM (4 days ago) Jun 19
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It's the UKHSA who issue the warnings, not the Met Office.  The UKHSA obviously gets its weather data from the Met Office to help them inform their decisions.   It's a heat health alert, not a temperature forecast.  The population demographic comes in to any calculation of alert level, along with things like pre-existing NHS demand.

The Met Office does issue extreme heat warnings as a part of its National Severe Weather Warnings Service - but it doesn't attempt to forecast demand on health and social services.

Graham Easterling

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Jun 20, 2026, 4:44:42 AM (4 days ago) Jun 20
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Updated
                       BBC    MetO
Monday             22        26
Tuesday            22        26
Wednesday      23        28

For Newquay (offshore wind)
                        BBC    MetO
Monday            24       28
Tuesday           23       26
Wednesday     24       29

It's interesting to see some of the temperature forecasts for over the sea off the north Cornwal coast 9pm Thursday

2026-06-20 09_39_13-Capture.png

On the subject of warm sea water, the press keeps going on about the recent Octopus bloom off the SW as being down to global warming, and whay a disaster it is. In fact it's happened on several occasions before. Whilst the take crabs/lobsters out of pots, it's a net gain for many local fisherman, due to the price Octopus gets, many in Newlyn are perfectly happy. In 2 years time it'll be back to normal.

Graham
Penzance





On Thursday, 18 June 2026 at 17:37:37 UTC+1 Graham Easterling wrote:

Ashley haworth-roberts

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Jun 21, 2026, 12:08:36 PM (2 days ago) Jun 21
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Some confusion over amber alerts (more amber heat health ones currently run until Friday at least in England):  Extreme heat alert extended with Wales due to hit 38C - BBC News

Metman2012

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Jun 22, 2026, 2:41:50 AM (yesterday) Jun 22
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Do you think that when the Met Office issues a heavy rain warning and the EA issue flood warnings that both will finish at the same time? The rain will stop but the effects will continue, possibly for some time. Similarly  the heat warning ceases when the temperatures drop (please!) after Thursday, but the effects will continuer for a while.

Ashley haworth-roberts

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Jun 22, 2026, 9:10:03 AM (yesterday) Jun 22
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If you're asking me, I agree. I was making the point that the headline on the BBC News Wales article seemed to confuse two different amber warnings/alerts that ended at different points in time. 
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