new OCTGN game definition

[Nick]

I've been doing a bunch of work the last few weeks on improving the
W:I module for OCTGN. I wanted to get it out to a small test group
for feedback before I give it to Eloi to put up on his blog and
distribute to everyone. I gave it a new version number, so you can
actually install it alongside the old W:I module if you want.

I've added a ton of keyboard shortcuts, some new menu commands, and
some really neat capital board stitching so that the capitals are
bigger than the regular cards, and can now hold damage and burning
tokens on each zone. When you load your deck, just right click your
capital and choose "Setup Capital" and it should do everything for
you.
Don't use it for the HE capital though, it still has a bug.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/15325551/00%20-%20Warhammer_Invasion_LCG_0.3.1.o8g
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/15325551/01%20-%20Core_Set_0.3.1.o8s
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/15325551/03%20-%20Assault%20on%20Ulthuan_0.3.1.o8s

[Robert Hahn]

Look forward to giving this a try in the near future.

Rob

[Robert Hahn]

Like the large capitals. Nice.

So first discovery I made.  Running on one computer two windows of OCTGN playing against each other.  When I setup capital of the first window it puts the capital into the right part of the playing field.  However the second window setup capital places the capital on the wrong side of the board.  When I select all three capital cards and drag it to the right side they flip and splay out oddly.  See attached PDF for screen shots.

I wonder if this has anything to do with this being on one computer sharing the same IP?

Anyways something to share.

Like the short cuts but need to get used to them.  So used to right clicking and selecting what I want that its habit.

Rob

[Nick Jordan]

I'm sure thats a bug we'd actually see if we were both playing.  The way OCTGN handles coordinates in the play area is really confusing, and VERY poorly documented.  I'll have to add some code to check if the person is player 1 or player 2 (hopefully that is possible).
If you use the HE capital, does it error out for you as well?  I had it working, and I'm not sure what caused it to start failing all of a sudden, but OCTGN crashes for me whenever i do "Setup" on the HE capital now.  The KZ image doesn't load.

The right click menus are all still there, though some things may have moved since the old menus were so simple.  Unfortunately, there isn't a way of setting up keyboard shortcuts without also putting it in a menu.  The phase stepping is something that I would not bother putting in a menu, if I had the choice.  I'm still working on a way of handling cards that say "reveal the top X cards"  The current reveal function that I have is kinda useless, since it reveals the card but still hides it under the card above it.

--
~~Nick~~

"Always start from the assumption that, if it matters, you can find a way to do it."

[Robert Hahn]

High elf board works fine for me.

A feature that would be interesting is the ability to put cards from the discard onto the top of your deck as in Order in Chaos.

Sometimes when I move a card from the discard pile to the top of the deck it actually ends up on the bottom of the deck?

A global uncorrupt short cut for Rat Ogres is another idea

Does OCTGN allow multiplayer?  Just curious?  Someone on the forums had an interesting idea I'd like to try out some day.

Rob

[Nick Jordan]

I figured out my HE board problem, my .o8s file had a corrupt image in it.  Not real sure why you didn't get the same corruption though. 
I can add that feature, though I can also explain how it currently works.  There is a small and translucent down arrow at the bottom of any pile, so if you drag the card over this arrow, it puts the card on the bottom, rather than the top.
The global uncorrupt is something that Eloi added, but I removed it again because it was screwing up the capital boards.  I can re-add it if I add some more code to his function, but you can also corrupt/uncorrupt just by double clicking, which should be pretty fast unless you have like 10 skaven.
OCTGN allows multiplayer, up to at least 4.  If you play a split board, it places 2 on the bottom and 2 on the top.  I was actually just testing this today.

[Nick Jordan]

I've updated the game definitions and the Ulthuan set.  You can DL them from the links above.
All bugs should be fixed now.
I looked into the Order in Chaos thing, but its not possible to do it in a useful way.  You would want to View All on the discard pile and then right click cards to put them on top, but you can't right click on cards in that pop up window.

One thing I get with the cards from Ulthuan is that when I mouseover them, the preview is very large.  If anyone else encounters this, let me know.

[Nick Jordan]

Updated the files again, old links don't work now.  Fixed a couple more errors in there.  I expect these will be released on Eloi's site soon.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/15325551/00%20-%20Warhammer_Invasion_LCG_0.1.0.o8g
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/15325551/01%20-%20Core_Set_0.1.0.o8s
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/15325551/03%20-%20Assault%20on%20Ulthuan_0.1.0.o8s

[Robert Hahn]

Hey when I use the new game file and try to install sets I get this message.

'04 - The Enemy Cycle.o8s' an error occured during installation:
The set '04 - The Enemy Cycle' is not built for the game 'Warhammer Invasion LCG'.

I get that for all of the sets including the two new ones you just sent out?

Thoughts,

Rob

[Nick Jordan]

I've gotten this error in the past, though I'm not sure what causes it.  I just uninstalled all the set files, closed down OCTGN, opened it back up, reinstalled the game definition, and then reinstalled all the set files.  That fixed it for me. 

However, I just found out the old sets are still incompatible with this new game version (which is stupid, since it just requires changing a single line of xml).  I updated the .08g and .o8s files in the links above, they should work now (they do for me).  I probably will need to update them all again in the future, as right now if you use this new .o8g file with older core set or ulthuan set files, OCTGN will just crash.

[Nick]

Ok, the updates are finally all complete and Eloi is hosting up the
files from his blog. I've also made a forum for W:I at
http://octgn.gamersjudgement.com/index.php.
You can get the files from there as well, they just link to the
sendspace uploads that Eloi did.

On Aug 1, 11:19 am, Nick Jordan <entrop...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I've gotten this error in the past, though I'm not sure what causes it.  I
> just uninstalled all the set files, closed down OCTGN, opened it back up,
> reinstalled the game definition, and then reinstalled all the set files.
> That fixed it for me.
>
> However, I just found out the old sets are still incompatible with this new
> game version (which is stupid, since it just requires changing a single line
> of xml).  I updated the .08g and .o8s files in the links above, they should
> work now (they do for me).  I probably will need to update them all again in
> the future, as right now if you use this new .o8g file with older core set
> or ulthuan set files, OCTGN will just crash.
>

> On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 9:32 PM, Robert Hahn <robert.j.hahn...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Hey when I use the new game file and try to install sets I get this
> > message.
>
> > '04 - The Enemy Cycle.o8s' an error occured during installation:
> > The set '04 - The Enemy Cycle' is not built for the game 'Warhammer
> > Invasion LCG'.
>
> > I get that for all of the sets including the two new ones you just sent
> > out?
>
> > Thoughts,
>
> > Rob
>

> > On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 5:33 PM, Nick Jordan <entrop...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> Updated the files again, old links don't work now.  Fixed a couple more
> >> errors in there.  I expect these will be released on Eloi's site soon.

> >>http://dl.dropbox.com/u/15325551/00%20-%20Warhammer_Invasion_LCG_0.1....
> >>http://dl.dropbox.com/u/15325551/01%20-%20Core_Set_0.1.0.o8s
> >>http://dl.dropbox.com/u/15325551/03%20-%20Assault%20on%20Ulthuan_0.1....

>
> >> On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 1:11 AM, Nick Jordan <entrop...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>> I've updated the game definitions and the Ulthuan set.  You can DL them
> >>> from the links above.
> >>> All bugs should be fixed now.
> >>> I looked into the Order in Chaos thing, but its not possible to do it in
> >>> a useful way.  You would want to View All on the discard pile and then right
> >>> click cards to put them on top, but you can't right click on cards in that
> >>> pop up window.
>
> >>> One thing I get with the cards from Ulthuan is that when I mouseover
> >>> them, the preview is very large.  If anyone else encounters this, let me
> >>> know.
>

> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 8:40 AM, Nick <entrop...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>>> I've been doing a bunch of work the last few weeks on improving the
> >>>>>>>>> W:I module for OCTGN.  I wanted to get it out to a small test group
> >>>>>>>>> for feedback before I give it to Eloi to put up on his blog and
> >>>>>>>>> distribute to everyone.  I gave it a new version number, so you can
> >>>>>>>>> actually install it alongside the old W:I module if you want.
>
> >>>>>>>>> I've added a ton of keyboard shortcuts, some new menu commands, and
> >>>>>>>>> some really neat capital board stitching so that the capitals are
> >>>>>>>>> bigger than the regular cards, and can now hold damage and burning
> >>>>>>>>> tokens on each zone.  When you load your deck, just right click
> >>>>>>>>> your
> >>>>>>>>> capital and choose "Setup Capital" and it should do everything for
> >>>>>>>>> you.
> >>>>>>>>> Don't use it for the HE capital though, it still has a bug.
>

> >>>>>>>>>http://dl.dropbox.com/u/15325551/00%20-%20Warhammer_Invasion_LCG_0.3....
> >>>>>>>>>http://dl.dropbox.com/u/15325551/01%20-%20Core_Set_0.3.1.o8s
>
> >>>>>>>>>http://dl.dropbox.com/u/15325551/03%20-%20Assault%20on%20Ulthuan_0.3....

[Robert Hahn]

Hey all,

Anyone interested in a game this weekend and giving the new game files a try?  Let me know.  Thing I have a fairly free weekend and can make time.

Rob

[Nick]

Made some minor updates to the game definition to address some issues
people brought up (and some i discovered)
http://octgn.gamersjudgement.com/viewforum.php?f=32