Headshot Cheats

[Theodor Urena]

Sothis game on PC has insane problem with cheating right now.

And basically it can't be stopped because they can't detect the difference between player input to adjust for things like recoil/aim and a software/hack doing it for them.

HOWEVER,

has Respawn considered the fact that they have stat trackers for headshots etc.

I'm pretty sure you could easily auto detect cheating by simply tracking shots fired, shots landed, percentage of headshots landed out of those and I'm sure you would see a massive obvious difference in these basic, trackable statistics that would differentiate between cheaters and the TOP Legit Predator players of Apex Legends.

Like statistically legit top predators won't hit those headshots the same way cheaters will.

I'm pretty sure Respawn CAN figure out how to first study these statistics of known cheaters, and THEN see which statistics clearly show the difference the most and boom, they now have an Auto Algorithm that doesn't have to detect any software (which they can't) they just need to track stats like this.

Wouldn't this work?

Wouldn't they also reliably be able to track movement within the game?

As for how these cheaters get into pred Lobby with Smurf accounts, what is the problem there exactly?

Set up a barrier so that accounts younger than a week CANNOT GET TO PREDATOR.

Just make it a hard lock that the account has to have reached a higher player level to even get to enter?

Or why does their barriers fail in keeping them out of Pred lobby to begin with?

I can't believe there is NO way for the Developers to beat cheating ?

Surely there's a way to fix their game to make it impervious too it?

I think they are just dumb honestly ? figure out what variables you can control, and study that. Like make a freaking effort to figure it out.

@Metrdin If it was that simple they would be doing it. Simply put there is more to it. If you have a program that detects headshots, you then have someone get lucky and land a bunch of headshots, they get wrongfully banned. Now the TOS team has to deal with reviewing that persons account and unban them.

Some of the very high skill players aim for nothing but headshots. They are extremely good at as well. I've bumped into top 100 preds in matches, they land a ton of headshots, it's really insane. Some of them I have heard of and I can tell you they do not cheat. They just have really good aim, really good recoil control and are really good at the game. If they did not have the top 100 pred badges I would assume they were cheaters at the death report. But when I spectate them it's clear they are high skill players. Their movement, their play, the way they rotate, everything is top notch.

But they do not care so much to be willing to spend money on it. Game looks pretty, there will always be new players coming to game, getting hyped about it and buying one of the packages. That's all it matters really.

Sure and they are working on AI to combat cheating. Most gaming companies are investing a ton of resources into it. Putting an end to cheating would be a golden goose for a gaming company, especially if it's something they can get intellectual property protections on. Every FPS game on the market is plagued with cheating. If a gaming company could provide an FPS game that had an anti cheat system that was let's say 95 or even just 90% effective, they could dominate the FPS market. It would be worth tens of billions if not hundreds of billions of dollars.

Unless the cheating is really egregious, it can be hard to detect. There are forum members here who have KD's above 8 and they do not cheat. I played a few rounds with an old forum member who had a KD above 7. I have a BFV friend, I used to play BFV with him almost daily when I was into it. He's one of the top BFV players in the world for console. He uses a standard controller, he just has crazy skill. Just to give an idea, this guy used to be a professional baseball player.. He has reactions time most people simply do not have. His stats in game are just unbelievable. Every lobby we would go into, he would get endless accusations of cheating.

Just to give an idea what I'm talking about.. It takes .4 seconds for a fastball to go from the pitchers hand to catchers glove. In that .4 seconds he can judge how fast the ball is traveling, the direction of the ball and still make contact with most of the pitches thrown. Keep in mind it takes a human .3-.4 seconds to blink.

@BaldWraithSimp I have dealt with the cheaters in PC lobbies I frequently play with forum members who are on PC. So I completely understand the gripe.. I want it fixed just as much as you do.

i mean i dont want to cry, but its unplayable. Nearly 90% of my deaths are white names with weard headshots, there are no fights or someting the just headshot me instantly. When i go inside a raid with nothing only pistol i dont die. When i put gear on and good stuff, i get fast instant headshots. I mean i know all spawns and i dont play the first time, this is nearly insane and it sucks and makes not even fun anymore. BSG try to ban people but it feels every wipe bad asf then before.

White name and you not understanding how you didnt die isnt a cheater automatically. Its probably not even a cheater 99% of the time. People shoot headshots as they down an opponent regardless of gear the fastest.

And when I go with a full gear, I dont die. Its a matter of playstyle. With a pistol your probably play in a way where your pacing is different and you move more. With gear, you might be an easier target as you are slower and scan & aim around.

ok mr standard edition, i have EOD and play nearly 2k hours. You guys are extremly lucky when you think there are no cheaters or maybe 10%, there are so many with esp and a lot with aimlock or something.

p4annus has been shilling this for literally YEARS, I stopped playing about 4 wipes ago because of the cheaters (back when BSG refused to implement battleeye and admit there was a problem) and he was STILL saying the same poo.

Also at interchange looting the computers while hearing shots hiting the walls where i am, i droped the bag and ran, the dude comes chasing me, i hold a angle and he trys shooting the wall, i drop down for extact he comes and headeyes me.

The truth is there is a massive cheating problem. Another issue is when you know you've been killed by cheaters multiple times in a day, it's easy to fall into the mind state of calling hax upon death when it's the slightest bit suspicious. There's a ton of cheaters out there that make it much less noticeable so they don't get banned such as only turning on walls. Late early, mid and end wipe I'm usually bringing in meta gear almost every single game because I can since I consider myself a better than average chad that has no problem with money, but once you do this, you notice a huge shift in "active" cheaters since these guys are literally hunting you down for your gear or rage hacking. I'm not one to call cheats unless I know they were cheating, but they're easy to spot if you've played enough and don't have your head buried in the ground.

Ofc theres cheaters. Theres cheaters in all games and will always be, unless we implement a totally orwellian system for surveillance of players and their computers. Ive never denied that there arent any and I never will, Ive seen a few. Approx 3-5 that Im sure of, during my 5+ years of EFT.

Ive seen 1000x more noobs with their big egos, coping that all their killers are cheaters because they cant explain the deaths and cant handle the fact that they are not as good as they were when they were playing COD or Insurgency:Sandstorm. Ive seen 100s of cheat reports in the megathread that were desync or lag. There used to be such bad desync in EFT that when the server caught up to what the players had been doing, they all flew super fast through the air to where their actual position was. That was a long time a go, but you get the point.

There is a big cheater Problem in Eft! its mostly like he said: low gear no prob @all but high gear and/or some good loot like GPU or somthing like that i often get killed by very suspicius players mostly with white names... Bullets trying to hit me behind walls / in house etc ... from people who defenetly cant know my position or that iam there, then there are the ones who talk to me like: drop this or that, maybe there are some kind of magican who know whats inside my backpack. maybe thats just desync and lag or some big big gaming chair or its my big ego that makes the bullets fly direktly into my head from a long distance in under 1 sec coming around a corner.

It feels like a pubg path all over again. Devs seem to have the same approach and it only took 6 years for pubg to fail. Then the devs actuallly started acting after the lost over 90% of their player base. SAME path, different game. All I can say is hopefully they enjoy the money they are making from it right now because it is not going to be around for too long.

Warehouse was empty everything quiet.. when I was in the far corner totally obscured from view and protected from walls and that curtain adjacent to the barrel fire. A shot just missed my head. but I wait, then a nade, comes out of no where and kills me.

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