Re: FW: [walkforchange] Re: dear walk about lover's

[Sjors Beenker]

Super thanks, my love! Good news after all those frustrating experiences with Hebrew here and Hebrew there, also during the Walk About. Other walkers, please make me happy and -continue to- write in English. Thanks! Peace to all of you, Sjors On Wed 21/10'9 23:57, rac...@013.net wrote: Hi Sjors, Thanks for forwarding to us, I'm glad I had a chance to read some of these responses. All these messages are words of encouragement for Or, who wrote below (in English) about her refusal to serve in the Israeli army. I can try and translate them in short, see below: Rachel From: walkfo...@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sjors Beenker. Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 11:54 AM To: walkfo...@googlegroups.com; walkab...@googlegroups.com Cc: rotem...@yahoo.com; or.r...@yahoo.com; ella....@gmail.com; gil_...@yahoo.com Dearest friends, so nice to get news from you all, especially around brave people like Or, but I can't understand any of the below. Could you write in English? Please! Any volunteer again to translate it all for all those of us who don't understand Hebrew? Great! And for all who're still serving in IDF, please go to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geneva_Conventions and be aware that the International community agreed in Nürnberg that 'Befehl ist Befehl' is part of a sad past and won't alowed in the future... Peace and love, Sjors Tuesday 20 October 2009 3:39 PM "אלה דבורי" ella....@gmail.com wrote  Hi Or, I wish you lots of success and good for you!! personally I believe that in order to change things one should act from within the system using its tools, rather than acting from outside, otherwise it is fighting against windmills. Ella  הי אור  , קודם כל מאחלת לך המון הצלחה וישר כח!! אני באופן אישי מאמינה, שעל מנת לשנות דברים יש לפעול מבפנים, עם הכלים של המערכת ולא מבחוץ, נגדה... אחרת זו מלחמה בתחנות רוח אלה ))) Tuesday, 20 October, 2009 8:15 AM <gil_...@yahoo.com> wrote:  Wow, good luck and good for you!  I wish I had such awareness and courage when I was at the right age for such an action Hope you are getting the love and support you need from the people around you, your family included. Tali  וואו! בהצלחה וכל הכבוד, הלוואי שלי הייתה כזאת מודעות  ואומץ בגיל המתאים מקווה שהסביבה תומכת ואת מקבלת את כל העזרה והאהבה גם  מהמשפחה. טלי On Tue 20/10'9 8:04, Or Rivka Hanuka <or.r...@yahoo.com> wrote:  Beloved Or, you are superb! remember your truth and your belief, and follow it with joy! Maybe you won't even have to go to jail. Love you, Rivka  אור אהובה את מעולה! זכרי את האמת שלך והאמונה ולכי בה בשמחה! אולי לא תלכי לכלא אפילו.. אוהבת אותך.. רבקה From: rotem <rotem...@yahoo.com> Sent: Mon October 19, 2009 6:07:23 PM Dearest Or! The best of luck to you. Take some books with you, to help you pass the time, and take a notebook and pencil, to document what you will be going through, so that when one day in free Israel a square will be named after you, they would be able to quote your memories from this notebook... Every day that goes by, you must remember that what you are doing is a brave and very rare action, that could one day bring the change that we are all yearning for... Good luck!   אור היקרה מאד! בהצלחה רבה. קחי איתך ספרים, שיהיה לך להעביר את הזמן, ומחברת ועפרון, תתעדי את מה שעובר עליך, כשיום אחד בישראל החופשית יקראו כיכר על שמך, יוכלו לצטט ממחברתך... בכל יום שעובר תזכרי שמה שאת עושה זה מעשה אמיץ, נדיר, שעם פעילות נכונה יכול בבוא היום להביא את השינוי המיוחל... בהצלחה! From: אור בן דוד <orv...@gmail.com> Sent: Mon, October 19, 2009 5:32:54 PM Dear friends, as some of you all ready know or remember, in 2 days I am going to refuse joining the Israel army.  I am going to refuse because I believe in peace, and I am against what the Israel government send the army to do in the west bank and Gaza (what we call occupation- a military control over citizen). I am going to refuse because I am not going to be a part of an organization that depress the soldier that are in him and treat them as his property. I am going to refuse because I am not going to cooperate with the system that make our society more and more militaristic, which means make our society more valiant, patriacel and cruel. I am writing to let you know and adding my refusal letter, refusing is a political act and I want by this act to affect more people, mostly the ones I love. It is your choice what to do with this information, but I hope that you will send it over to your friends or local media, so the fact that people refuse joining the "IDF" will spread and maby bring hope to all that are depress (mostly Palestinians and Israelis) that there is another way, peace s possible. I am not going to refuse alone, I am refusing with a grope of Jewish and Arabs that decided refusing to by enemies. The grope is cold "shministim letter 2009-2010"  if you want to read the group letter you can go in to http://www.petition.fm/petitions/shministim/0/2/ if you want to get my address in jail or updates about what is up with me you can go or to our website www.shministim.com or join our list serve at https://lists.riseup.net/www/info/shministimletter09-10 you can even send to our group mail and hopefully it will get to me at shmini...@gmail.com only love and hope to as all, the small OR. אור בן דוד אוהבת