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Crown-Horned Snorkack
Feb 10, 2012, 3:30:31 AM2/10/12
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On 3 veebr, 02:55, The Chief <the.chieft...@ymail.com> wrote:
> With the countdown to Scottish Freedom underway - only 1000 days to
> go! - it is time to face up to some big questions. One of the
> foremost is the issue of what to call the remainder of the current
> "UK" once Scotland is free. To get the ball rolling I will offer some
> concrete suggestions:
> FUK - Former UK
> SUK - Scotless UK
> CUK - Continuing UK, ....
>
> Your turn!
>
Wales has been a conquered country by England since 1283, writ of
English courts has ran (even when Court of Great Session existed) and
English laws have applied since 16th century. There is no Welsh law
and since 1830, no Welsh courts. Wales never had the internal
autonomy
that Ireland always had even under Poynings´ Law, and never was
admitted as member into any union, being a mere part of England when
England entered into unions.
When Ireland was divided, United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland
did not cease to exist - Northern Ireland was still a member,
therefore there still was an United Kingdom (of Great Britain and
Northern Ireland).
When Scotland shall secede, Great Britain shall thereby cease to
exist.
But if North Ireland still is a member, there would still be an
United
Kingdom of something - presumably United Kingdom of England and
Northern Ireland?
What about the Welsh, then? Would they be happy to stay mere part of
England?
What about making Wales a member of United Kingdom of England, Wales
and Northern Ireland?
Or how about avoiding the issue of England or England and Wales by
making United Kingdom of Southern Britain and Northern Ireland?
> With the countdown to Scottish Freedom underway - only 1000 days to
> go! - it is time to face up to some big questions. One of the
> foremost is the issue of what to call the remainder of the current
> "UK" once Scotland is free. To get the ball rolling I will offer some
> concrete suggestions:
> FUK - Former UK
> SUK - Scotless UK
> CUK - Continuing UK, ....
>
> Your turn!
>
Wales has been a conquered country by England since 1283, writ of
English courts has ran (even when Court of Great Session existed) and
English laws have applied since 16th century. There is no Welsh law
and since 1830, no Welsh courts. Wales never had the internal
autonomy
that Ireland always had even under Poynings´ Law, and never was
admitted as member into any union, being a mere part of England when
England entered into unions.
When Ireland was divided, United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland
did not cease to exist - Northern Ireland was still a member,
therefore there still was an United Kingdom (of Great Britain and
Northern Ireland).
When Scotland shall secede, Great Britain shall thereby cease to
exist.
But if North Ireland still is a member, there would still be an
United
Kingdom of something - presumably United Kingdom of England and
Northern Ireland?
What about the Welsh, then? Would they be happy to stay mere part of
England?
What about making Wales a member of United Kingdom of England, Wales
and Northern Ireland?
Or how about avoiding the issue of England or England and Wales by
making United Kingdom of Southern Britain and Northern Ireland?
CJ Buyers
Feb 10, 2012, 4:51:41 AM2/10/12
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On Feb 10, 7:30 pm, Crown-Horned Snorkack <chornedsnork...@hush.ai>
wrote:
> There is no Welsh law
Actually there is.
As a consequence of the 2006 Government of Wales Act, under schedule
5, the Welsh Assembly has much the same powers of primary legislation
as the other devolved assemblies, in the following fields:
1: agriculture, fisheries, forestry and rural development
2: ancient monuments and historic buildings
3: culture
4: economic development
5: education and training
6: environment
7: fire and rescue services and promotion of fire safety
8: food
9: health and health services
10: highways and transport
11: housing
12: local government
13: National Assembly for Wales
14: public administration
15: social welfare
16: sport and recreation
17: tourism
18: town and country planning
19: water and flood defence
20: Welsh language
There are also provisions within the act and a specified mechanism for
transferring further powers from Westminster or initiating new ones.
wrote:
> There is no Welsh law
As a consequence of the 2006 Government of Wales Act, under schedule
5, the Welsh Assembly has much the same powers of primary legislation
as the other devolved assemblies, in the following fields:
1: agriculture, fisheries, forestry and rural development
2: ancient monuments and historic buildings
3: culture
4: economic development
5: education and training
6: environment
7: fire and rescue services and promotion of fire safety
8: food
9: health and health services
10: highways and transport
11: housing
12: local government
13: National Assembly for Wales
14: public administration
15: social welfare
16: sport and recreation
17: tourism
18: town and country planning
19: water and flood defence
20: Welsh language
There are also provisions within the act and a specified mechanism for
transferring further powers from Westminster or initiating new ones.
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