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The Olympics: England and the Celtic Fringe
Posted on August 14, 2012
Robert Henderson
The final Great Britain tally of medals at the 2012 Olympics was 65
comprised of 29 Gold, 16 Silver, 19 Bronze.
Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland managed a grand total of six
medals comprised of 3 gold, two silver and one bronze in individual
events.
In group events, the tally of Celtic Fringe medals was 16 comprised
of 7 gold, 6 silver and 3 bronze. There was no case of an all Celt
team winning. There were always English competitors with them.
Scotland
Individual medals (2)
Chris Hoy, Gold, Cycling, Keirin
Andy Murray, Gold, Tennis, Mens’ Singles
Michael Jamieson, Silver, Swimming, 200m Breaststroke
Medals as part of a group (11)
Chris Hoy, Gold, Cycling, Team Sprint.
Heather Stanning, Gold, Rowing, Coxless Pair
Katherine Grainger, Gold, Rowing, Double Sculls
Scott Brash, Gold, Equestrian, Team Jumping
Timothy Baillie, Gold, Canoeing Slalom, C-2 team
David Florence, Silver, Canoeing Slalom, C-2 team
Luke Patience, Silver, Sailing, Mens 470
Andy Murray, Silver, Tennis, Mixed Doubles
Daniel Purvis, Bronze, Gymnastics, Team All-round
Laura Bartlett, Bronze, Field Hockey,
Emily Maguire, Bronze, Field Hockey
Wales
Individual medals (2)
Jade Jones, Gold, Women’s taekwondo under-57kg
Fred Evans, Silver, Men’s welterweight boxing
Medals as part of a group (5)
Geraint Thomas, Gold, Men’s cycling team pursuit
Tom James, Gold, Men’s coxless four
Chris Bartley, Silver, Men’s lightweight four rowing
Hannah Mills, Silver, Women’s sailing 470 class
Sarah Thomas, Bronze, Women’s hockey
Northern Ireland
Individual medals (1)
Alan Campbell, bronze , the men’s single sculls
Medals as part of a group (1)
Peter and Richard Chambers silver, the men’s lightweight four
How would the four home countries have fared as independent nations?
If the Celtic involvement in team medals had not existed it is
probable that England would have been able to fill the places with
competitors of equal quality.
If the Celtic nations had to compete as separate nations they would
not be able to produce teams from their much smaller populations to
produce an equivalent number of team medals. In fact, it is probable
that there would have been no team medals for Scotland, Wales and
Northern Ireland if they competed as individual nations in 2012.
The other problem for separate Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland
Olympic teams would be funding and facilities. The vast majority of
money provided for athletes (using the word broadly to include all
sports and games involving physical abilities) under the British or UK
banner is English. Independent Celtic nations would not be able to
fund Celtic athletes at anything like the same level as Britain
currently does.
On top of the immediate funding of athletes, the Celts would have the
problem of facilities. Most of the major facilities are in England and
many of the Celtic athletes train and live in England. Those
facilities would not be available without charge or all to athletes
from independent Celtic nations. This would not necessarily simply be
a matter of England wishing to deny Celtic athletes opportunities to
train. It could also be that the facilities would not have the
capacity to host more than one team.
How would an independent England fare at the Olympics? England would
probably have come fourth rather than third in the present Olympics if
they had competed as an independent nation. In the longer term it is
likely there would be little if any difference because the population
of England is large enough to find talented replacements for the
Celts who would no longer compete under the Great Britain banner.
Appearing simply as England could t improve English performances. As
England provide the large majority of the funding for British
athletes and has almost all of the main training facilities, the
removal of Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland from the scene could
benefit English athletes as they received more funding and greater
training opportunities.
There is a further consideration. Athletes who say they are
Scottish, Welsh or Northern Ireland as things stand , might well claim
they were English if the Celtic nations were independent to get access
to English funding and facilities. This is especially true of those
athletes who are English in culture and upbringing, but who claim to
be Scottish, Welsh or Northern Irish on tenuous grounds such as a
grandparent who was or is Scottish, Welsh or Northern Irish. They
would probably have little difficulty in saying they were English.
The lure of English funding and facilities has the potential to
significantly reduce the pool of talent available to the Celtic
nations.
The picture is clear: England would suffer no disadvantage and might
well gain by appearing as an independent team: Scotland, Wales and
Northern Ireland would be reduced, at best, to the status of a
Norway or Slovenia.
The Olympics: England and the Celtic Fringe
Posted on August 14, 2012
Robert Henderson
The final Great Britain tally of medals at the 2012 Olympics was 65
comprised of 29 Gold, 16 Silver, 19 Bronze.
Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland managed a grand total of six
medals comprised of 3 gold, two silver and one bronze in individual
events.
In group events, the tally of Celtic Fringe medals was 16 comprised
of 7 gold, 6 silver and 3 bronze. There was no case of an all Celt
team winning. There were always English competitors with them.
Scotland
Individual medals (2)
Chris Hoy, Gold, Cycling, Keirin
Andy Murray, Gold, Tennis, Mens’ Singles
Michael Jamieson, Silver, Swimming, 200m Breaststroke
Medals as part of a group (11)
Chris Hoy, Gold, Cycling, Team Sprint.
Heather Stanning, Gold, Rowing, Coxless Pair
Katherine Grainger, Gold, Rowing, Double Sculls
Scott Brash, Gold, Equestrian, Team Jumping
Timothy Baillie, Gold, Canoeing Slalom, C-2 team
David Florence, Silver, Canoeing Slalom, C-2 team
Luke Patience, Silver, Sailing, Mens 470
Andy Murray, Silver, Tennis, Mixed Doubles
Daniel Purvis, Bronze, Gymnastics, Team All-round
Laura Bartlett, Bronze, Field Hockey,
Emily Maguire, Bronze, Field Hockey
Wales
Individual medals (2)
Jade Jones, Gold, Women’s taekwondo under-57kg
Fred Evans, Silver, Men’s welterweight boxing
Medals as part of a group (5)
Geraint Thomas, Gold, Men’s cycling team pursuit
Tom James, Gold, Men’s coxless four
Chris Bartley, Silver, Men’s lightweight four rowing
Hannah Mills, Silver, Women’s sailing 470 class
Sarah Thomas, Bronze, Women’s hockey
Northern Ireland
Individual medals (1)
Alan Campbell, bronze , the men’s single sculls
Medals as part of a group (1)
Peter and Richard Chambers silver, the men’s lightweight four
How would the four home countries have fared as independent nations?
If the Celtic involvement in team medals had not existed it is
probable that England would have been able to fill the places with
competitors of equal quality.
If the Celtic nations had to compete as separate nations they would
not be able to produce teams from their much smaller populations to
produce an equivalent number of team medals. In fact, it is probable
that there would have been no team medals for Scotland, Wales and
Northern Ireland if they competed as individual nations in 2012.
The other problem for separate Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland
Olympic teams would be funding and facilities. The vast majority of
money provided for athletes (using the word broadly to include all
sports and games involving physical abilities) under the British or UK
banner is English. Independent Celtic nations would not be able to
fund Celtic athletes at anything like the same level as Britain
currently does.
On top of the immediate funding of athletes, the Celts would have the
problem of facilities. Most of the major facilities are in England and
many of the Celtic athletes train and live in England. Those
facilities would not be available without charge or all to athletes
from independent Celtic nations. This would not necessarily simply be
a matter of England wishing to deny Celtic athletes opportunities to
train. It could also be that the facilities would not have the
capacity to host more than one team.
How would an independent England fare at the Olympics? England would
probably have come fourth rather than third in the present Olympics if
they had competed as an independent nation. In the longer term it is
likely there would be little if any difference because the population
of England is large enough to find talented replacements for the
Celts who would no longer compete under the Great Britain banner.
Appearing simply as England could t improve English performances. As
England provide the large majority of the funding for British
athletes and has almost all of the main training facilities, the
removal of Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland from the scene could
benefit English athletes as they received more funding and greater
training opportunities.
There is a further consideration. Athletes who say they are
Scottish, Welsh or Northern Ireland as things stand , might well claim
they were English if the Celtic nations were independent to get access
to English funding and facilities. This is especially true of those
athletes who are English in culture and upbringing, but who claim to
be Scottish, Welsh or Northern Irish on tenuous grounds such as a
grandparent who was or is Scottish, Welsh or Northern Irish. They
would probably have little difficulty in saying they were English.
The lure of English funding and facilities has the potential to
significantly reduce the pool of talent available to the Celtic
nations.
The picture is clear: England would suffer no disadvantage and might
well gain by appearing as an independent team: Scotland, Wales and
Northern Ireland would be reduced, at best, to the status of a
Norway or Slovenia.
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abelard
Aug 14, 2012, 2:10:21 PM8/14/12
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On Tue, 14 Aug 2012 18:59:04 +0100, Malcolm
<Mal...@indaal.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>In article
><04028e4e-9068-49c8...@r4g2000vbn.googlegroups.com>, RH
><anywh...@gmail.com> writes
>>http://englandcalling.wordpress.com/2012/08/14/the-olympics-england-and-
>convictions if it is only "probable". It is also absolutely obvious that
>Robert now accepts that the likes of Jessica Ennis and Mo Farah are, by
>his definition, English.
>
>Well done, Robert. You're getting there.
farah believes he's english....do you?
do you believe you are english?...does rh?...does farah?
<Mal...@indaal.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>In article
><04028e4e-9068-49c8...@r4g2000vbn.googlegroups.com>, RH
><anywh...@gmail.com> writes
>>http://englandcalling.wordpress.com/2012/08/14/the-olympics-england-and-
>>the-celtic-fringe/
>>
>>The Olympics: England and the Celtic Fringe
>>
>>Posted on August 14, 2012
>>
>>
>>
>>The Olympics: England and the Celtic Fringe
>>
>>Posted on August 14, 2012
>>
>>
>>If the Celtic involvement in team medals had not existed it is
>>probable that England would have been able to fill the places with
>>competitors of equal quality.
>>
>It is "probable". It is obvious that RH doesn't have the courage of his
>>probable that England would have been able to fill the places with
>>competitors of equal quality.
>>
>convictions if it is only "probable". It is also absolutely obvious that
>Robert now accepts that the likes of Jessica Ennis and Mo Farah are, by
>his definition, English.
>
>Well done, Robert. You're getting there.
farah believes he's english....do you?
do you believe you are english?...does rh?...does farah?
Alan Smaill
Aug 14, 2012, 2:27:34 PM8/14/12
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Alan Smaill
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abelard
Aug 14, 2012, 2:33:35 PM8/14/12
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abelard
Aug 14, 2012, 2:34:14 PM8/14/12
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On Tue, 14 Aug 2012 18:30:44 +0000 (UTC), soupdragon <m...@privacy.net>
wrote:
>abelard <abel...@abelard.org> wrote in
>news:f15l289uch4lt1g5h...@4ax.com:
>It doesn't matter. The point is, to boost the English medal tally to
>what Fatboi claims, he has to accept that a whole battery of people
>Fatboi previously claimed were not English are, in fact, English. He
>has been hoist by his own petard.
petards don't hoist...cranes hoist
wrote:
>abelard <abel...@abelard.org> wrote in
>news:f15l289uch4lt1g5h...@4ax.com:
>what Fatboi claims, he has to accept that a whole battery of people
>Fatboi previously claimed were not English are, in fact, English. He
>has been hoist by his own petard.
petards don't hoist...cranes hoist
Alan Smaill
Aug 14, 2012, 2:40:31 PM8/14/12
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--
Alan Smaill
Alan Smaill
Aug 14, 2012, 2:43:12 PM8/14/12
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There's letters seal'd, and my two schoolfellows,
Whom I will trust as I will adders fang'd—
They bear the mandate, they must sweep my way
And marshal me to knavery. Let it work;
For 'tis the sport to have the enginer
Hoist with his own petard, an't shall go hard
But I will delve one yard below their mines
And blow them at the moon.
--
Alan Smaill
Magnus
Aug 14, 2012, 2:45:46 PM8/14/12
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abelard <abel...@abelard.org> wrote in
news:7g6l28l0eehmgr6st...@4ax.com:
The word remains in modern usage in the phrase hoist with one's own
petard, which means "to be harmed by one's own plan to harm someone
else" or "to fall into one's own trap," literally implying that one
could be lifted up (hoist, or blown upward) by one's own bomb.
news:7g6l28l0eehmgr6st...@4ax.com:
petard, which means "to be harmed by one's own plan to harm someone
else" or "to fall into one's own trap," literally implying that one
could be lifted up (hoist, or blown upward) by one's own bomb.
abelard
Aug 14, 2012, 2:45:48 PM8/14/12
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On Tue, 14 Aug 2012 19:40:31 +0100, Alan Smaill
i am not a scientologist
abelard
Aug 14, 2012, 2:50:03 PM8/14/12
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he probably only did it because he wanted it to scan
abelard
Aug 14, 2012, 2:52:07 PM8/14/12
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RH
Aug 14, 2012, 3:00:49 PM8/14/12
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On Aug 14, 6:59 pm, Malcolm <Malc...@indaal.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> In article
> <04028e4e-9068-49c8-91ee-a3d20205a...@r4g2000vbn.googlegroups.com>, RH
> <anywhere...@gmail.com> writes>http://englandcalling.wordpress.com/2012/08/14/the-olympics-england-and-
> Malcolm
"Doctor... Doctor...patient M is having another serious fit of
hyperfantasy...." RH
> In article
> <04028e4e-9068-49c8-91ee-a3d20205a...@r4g2000vbn.googlegroups.com>, RH
> <anywhere...@gmail.com> writes>http://englandcalling.wordpress.com/2012/08/14/the-olympics-england-and-
> >the-celtic-fringe/
>
> >The Olympics: England and the Celtic Fringe
>
> >Posted on August 14, 2012
>
>
> >The Olympics: England and the Celtic Fringe
>
> >Posted on August 14, 2012
>
> >If the Celtic involvement in team medals had not existed it is
> >probable that England would have been able to fill the places with
> >competitors of equal quality.
>
> >probable that England would have been able to fill the places with
> >competitors of equal quality.
>
> It is "probable". It is obvious that RH doesn't have the courage of his
> convictions if it is only "probable". It is also absolutely obvious that
> Robert now accepts that the likes of Jessica Ennis and Mo Farah are, by
> his definition, English.
>
> Well done, Robert. You're getting there.
>
> --
> convictions if it is only "probable". It is also absolutely obvious that
> Robert now accepts that the likes of Jessica Ennis and Mo Farah are, by
> his definition, English.
>
> Well done, Robert. You're getting there.
>
> Malcolm
"Doctor... Doctor...patient M is having another serious fit of
hyperfantasy...." RH
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abelard
Aug 14, 2012, 5:12:06 PM8/14/12
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On Tue, 14 Aug 2012 22:03:21 +0100, Malcolm
<Mal...@indaal.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>In article
><bdbdb0c5-4971-4910...@d7g2000vbv.googlegroups.com>, RH
><anywh...@gmail.com> writes
>than return to his fantasy world of "doctor" and "nurse".
>
>Does anyone think Robert is mentally ill?
not a chance
<Mal...@indaal.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>In article
><bdbdb0c5-4971-4910...@d7g2000vbv.googlegroups.com>, RH
><anywh...@gmail.com> writes
>>On Aug 14, 6:59�pm, Malcolm <Malc...@indaal.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>> In article
>>> <04028e4e-9068-49c8-91ee-a3d20205a...@r4g2000vbn.googlegroups.com>, RH
>>> <anywhere...@gmail.com>
>>>writes>http://englandcalling.wordpress.com/2012/08/14/the-olympics-engl
>>>and-and-
>>> >the-celtic-fringe/
>>>
>>> >The Olympics: England and the Celtic Fringe
>>>
>>> >Posted on August 14, 2012
>>>
>>> >If the Celtic involvement in team medals had not existed it is
>>> >probable that England would have been able to fill the places with
>>> >competitors of equal quality.
>>>
>>> It is "probable". It is obvious that RH doesn't have the courage of his
>>> convictions if it is only "probable". It is also absolutely obvious that
>>> Robert now accepts that the likes of Jessica Ennis and Mo Farah are, by
>>> his definition, English.
>>>
>>> Well done, Robert. You're getting there.
>>
>>> In article
>>> <04028e4e-9068-49c8-91ee-a3d20205a...@r4g2000vbn.googlegroups.com>, RH
>>> <anywhere...@gmail.com>
>>>writes>http://englandcalling.wordpress.com/2012/08/14/the-olympics-engl
>>>and-and-
>>> >the-celtic-fringe/
>>>
>>> >The Olympics: England and the Celtic Fringe
>>>
>>> >Posted on August 14, 2012
>>>
>>> >If the Celtic involvement in team medals had not existed it is
>>> >probable that England would have been able to fill the places with
>>> >competitors of equal quality.
>>>
>>> It is "probable". It is obvious that RH doesn't have the courage of his
>>> convictions if it is only "probable". It is also absolutely obvious that
>>> Robert now accepts that the likes of Jessica Ennis and Mo Farah are, by
>>> his definition, English.
>>>
>>> Well done, Robert. You're getting there.
>>
>>"Doctor... Doctor...patient M is having another serious fit of
>>hyperfantasy...." RH
>
>And Robert, hoist by his own petard, can think of nothing else to do
>>hyperfantasy...." RH
>
>than return to his fantasy world of "doctor" and "nurse".
>
>Does anyone think Robert is mentally ill?
not a chance
Magnus
Aug 15, 2012, 1:37:41 AM8/15/12
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abelard <abel...@abelard.org> wrote in
news:ai7l289b2pjfv9epi...@4ax.com:
> On Tue, 14 Aug 2012 18:45:46 GMT, Magnus <Your...@your.biz> wrote:
>
>>abelard <abel...@abelard.org> wrote in
>>news:7g6l28l0eehmgr6st...@4ax.com:
>>
>>> On Tue, 14 Aug 2012 18:30:44 +0000 (UTC), soupdragon
<m...@privacy.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>abelard <abel...@abelard.org> wrote in
>>>>news:f15l289uch4lt1g5h...@4ax.com:
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 14 Aug 2012 18:59:04 +0100, Malcolm
>>>>> <Mal...@indaal.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>In article
>>>>>><04028e4e-9068-49c8-91ee-a3d20205a895
And you're just wriggling. Go and consult a dictionary.
news:ai7l289b2pjfv9epi...@4ax.com:
> On Tue, 14 Aug 2012 18:45:46 GMT, Magnus <Your...@your.biz> wrote:
>
>>abelard <abel...@abelard.org> wrote in
>>news:7g6l28l0eehmgr6st...@4ax.com:
>>
>>> On Tue, 14 Aug 2012 18:30:44 +0000 (UTC), soupdragon
<m...@privacy.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>abelard <abel...@abelard.org> wrote in
>>>>news:f15l289uch4lt1g5h...@4ax.com:
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 14 Aug 2012 18:59:04 +0100, Malcolm
>>>>> <Mal...@indaal.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>In article
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abelard
Aug 15, 2012, 4:37:14 AM8/15/12
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it remains that you are spinning
abelard
Aug 15, 2012, 4:38:02 AM8/15/12
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On Wed, 15 Aug 2012 08:05:45 +0100, Malcolm
<Mal...@indaal.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>In article <pofl28leidp7vhfk8...@4ax.com>, abelard
><abel...@abelard.org> writes
>What are your qualifications, or experience, that enables you to be so
>definite?
a great deal better than yours...plus over 10 years
watching him...
<Mal...@indaal.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>In article <pofl28leidp7vhfk8...@4ax.com>, abelard
><abel...@abelard.org> writes
>definite?
a great deal better than yours...plus over 10 years
watching him...
Magnus
Aug 15, 2012, 5:01:22 AM8/15/12
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abelard <abel...@abelard.org> wrote in
news:isnm289i8116o1t1h...@4ax.com:
Generally regarded as authoritative, particularly in a court of law as
in the case of the OED. Your opinion, however, carries no weight.
news:isnm289i8116o1t1h...@4ax.com:
in the case of the OED. Your opinion, however, carries no weight.
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Custos Custodum
Aug 15, 2012, 6:08:22 AM8/15/12
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Malcolm <Mal...@indaal.demon.co.uk> wrote in
news:uK$b0iSZ0...@indaal.demon.co.uk:
>
> In article
> <bdbdb0c5-4971-4910...@d7g2000vbv.googlegroups.com>, RH
> <anywh...@gmail.com> writes
condition would be to keep him permanently sedated.
news:uK$b0iSZ0...@indaal.demon.co.uk:
>
> In article
> <bdbdb0c5-4971-4910...@d7g2000vbv.googlegroups.com>, RH
> <anywh...@gmail.com> writes
>>On Aug 14, 6:59�pm, Malcolm <Malc...@indaal.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>> In article
>>> <04028e4e-9068-49c8-91ee-a3d20205a...@r4g2000vbn.googlegroups.com>,
>>> RH <anywhere...@gmail.com>
>>>writes>http://englandcalling.wordpress.com/2012/08/14/the-olympics-
eng
>>>l and-and-
>>> >the-celtic-fringe/
>>>
>>> >The Olympics: England and the Celtic Fringe
>>>
>>> >Posted on August 14, 2012
>>>
>>> >If the Celtic involvement in team medals had not existed it is
>>> >probable that England would have been able to fill the places with
>>> >competitors of equal quality.
>>>
>>> It is "probable". It is obvious that RH doesn't have the courage of
>>> his convictions if it is only "probable". It is also absolutely
>>> obvious that Robert now accepts that the likes of Jessica Ennis and
>>> Mo Farah are, by his definition, English.
>>>
>>> Well done, Robert. You're getting there.
>>
>>> In article
>>> <04028e4e-9068-49c8-91ee-a3d20205a...@r4g2000vbn.googlegroups.com>,
>>> RH <anywhere...@gmail.com>
>>>writes>http://englandcalling.wordpress.com/2012/08/14/the-olympics-
eng
>>>l and-and-
>>> >the-celtic-fringe/
>>>
>>> >The Olympics: England and the Celtic Fringe
>>>
>>> >Posted on August 14, 2012
>>>
>>> >If the Celtic involvement in team medals had not existed it is
>>> >probable that England would have been able to fill the places with
>>> >competitors of equal quality.
>>>
>>> It is "probable". It is obvious that RH doesn't have the courage of
>>> his convictions if it is only "probable". It is also absolutely
>>> obvious that Robert now accepts that the likes of Jessica Ennis and
>>> Mo Farah are, by his definition, English.
>>>
>>> Well done, Robert. You're getting there.
>>
>>"Doctor... Doctor...patient M is having another serious fit of
>>hyperfantasy...." RH
>
>>hyperfantasy...." RH
>
> And Robert, hoist by his own petard, can think of nothing else to do
> than return to his fantasy world of "doctor" and "nurse".
>
> Does anyone think Robert is mentally ill?
>
No. Illnesses are treatable. The best you could do for Fatboi's
> than return to his fantasy world of "doctor" and "nurse".
>
> Does anyone think Robert is mentally ill?
>
condition would be to keep him permanently sedated.
Alan Smaill
Aug 15, 2012, 9:22:13 AM8/15/12
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abelard <abel...@abelard.org> writes:
> On Tue, 14 Aug 2012 19:43:12 +0100, Alan Smaill
> <sma...@SPAMinf.ed.ac.uk> wrote:
>
>>abelard <abel...@abelard.org> writes:
>>
>>> On Tue, 14 Aug 2012 18:30:44 +0000 (UTC), soupdragon <m...@privacy.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>It doesn't matter. The point is, to boost the English medal tally to
>>>>what Fatboi claims, he has to accept that a whole battery of people
>>>>Fatboi previously claimed were not English are, in fact, English. He
>>>>has been hoist by his own petard.
>>>
>>> petards don't hoist...cranes hoist
>>
>>Take it up with Shakespeare:
>>
>> There's letters seal'd, and my two schoolfellows,
>> Whom I will trust as I will adders fang'd—
>> They bear the mandate, they must sweep my way
>> And marshal me to knavery. Let it work;
>> For 'tis the sport to have the enginer
>> Hoist with his own petard, an't shall go hard
>> But I will delve one yard below their mines
>> And blow them at the moon.
>
> he's out of date...
right up your street, then.
> On Tue, 14 Aug 2012 19:43:12 +0100, Alan Smaill
> <sma...@SPAMinf.ed.ac.uk> wrote:
>
>>abelard <abel...@abelard.org> writes:
>>
>>> On Tue, 14 Aug 2012 18:30:44 +0000 (UTC), soupdragon <m...@privacy.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>It doesn't matter. The point is, to boost the English medal tally to
>>>>what Fatboi claims, he has to accept that a whole battery of people
>>>>Fatboi previously claimed were not English are, in fact, English. He
>>>>has been hoist by his own petard.
>>>
>>> petards don't hoist...cranes hoist
>>
>>Take it up with Shakespeare:
>>
>> There's letters seal'd, and my two schoolfellows,
>> Whom I will trust as I will adders fang'd—
>> They bear the mandate, they must sweep my way
>> And marshal me to knavery. Let it work;
>> For 'tis the sport to have the enginer
>> Hoist with his own petard, an't shall go hard
>> But I will delve one yard below their mines
>> And blow them at the moon.
>
> he's out of date...
> he probably only did it because he wanted it to scan
--
Alan Smaill
abelard
Aug 15, 2012, 1:59:16 PM8/15/12
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On Wed, 15 Aug 2012 10:01:54 +0100, Malcolm
<Mal...@indaal.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>In article <4unm28debgp33ierb...@4ax.com>, abelard
>How do you know that so definitely?
reading your posts
>>.plus over 10 years
>> watching him...
>
>We've all had that experience and have opinions about Robert, too.
what've your 'opinions'..to do with his sanity or otherwise?
your opinions on sanity are clearly uninformed...even almost insane..
i doubt you could even come close to defining 'insanity'...even if
you copied it out from wikipedia.
<Mal...@indaal.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>In article <4unm28debgp33ierb...@4ax.com>, abelard
reading your posts
>>.plus over 10 years
>> watching him...
>
what've your 'opinions'..to do with his sanity or otherwise?
your opinions on sanity are clearly uninformed...even almost insane..
i doubt you could even come close to defining 'insanity'...even if
you copied it out from wikipedia.
abelard
Aug 15, 2012, 2:00:37 PM8/15/12
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you are of course welcome to start running yet again....
abelard
Aug 15, 2012, 2:02:59 PM8/15/12
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> particularly in a court of law as
>in the case of the OED. Your opinion, however, carries no weight.
but of course i don't expect you use the oed....but some
cut down version for idiots
abelard
Aug 15, 2012, 2:05:45 PM8/15/12
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On Wed, 15 Aug 2012 14:22:13 +0100, Alan Smaill
he just made it up as he went along...
it's full of cliches he probably copied of the local cess pit....
look at his spelling...every idiot knows he couldn't even spell...
even malcolm will tell you that...he knows all about dictionaries
it's full of cliches he probably copied of the local cess pit....
look at his spelling...every idiot knows he couldn't even spell...
even malcolm will tell you that...he knows all about dictionaries
Alan Smaill
Aug 15, 2012, 2:48:09 PM8/15/12
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--
Alan Smaill
abelard
Aug 15, 2012, 2:55:11 PM8/15/12
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On Wed, 15 Aug 2012 19:48:09 +0100, Alan Smaill
exactly
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Aug 15, 2012, 3:33:21 PM8/15/12
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On Wed, 15 Aug 2012 20:20:54 +0100, Malcolm
<Mal...@indaal.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>In article <4ion28d4l1gs8erim...@4ax.com>, abelard
>So, no answer at all. You claimed that Robert is not mentally ill by
>responding "not a chance" and when asked what your qualifications or
>experience were you replied "a great deal better than yours", or in
>other words no answer at all. How pathetic.
you are indeed pathetic...
you seek authority because you are too ignorant to make
informed judgements
>>>>.plus over 10 years
>>>> watching him...
>>>
>>>We've all had that experience and have opinions about Robert, too.
>>
>>what've your 'opinions'..to do with his sanity or otherwise?
>>your opinions on sanity are clearly uninformed...even almost insane..
>>
>How do you know that my opinions are "clearly uninformed"?
watching your uninformed posts
>You don't, is the correct answer.
you wish
>>i doubt you could even come close to defining 'insanity'...even if
>> you copied it out from wikipedia.
>
>Look it up in the OED, if you can manage to find the right entry and
>actually read it.
so...you believe the oed..which you don't read...will answer
your uninformed ramblings...
ok, that's cool
<Mal...@indaal.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>In article <4ion28d4l1gs8erim...@4ax.com>, abelard
>responding "not a chance" and when asked what your qualifications or
>experience were you replied "a great deal better than yours", or in
>other words no answer at all. How pathetic.
you are indeed pathetic...
you seek authority because you are too ignorant to make
informed judgements
>>>>.plus over 10 years
>>>> watching him...
>>>
>>>We've all had that experience and have opinions about Robert, too.
>>
>>what've your 'opinions'..to do with his sanity or otherwise?
>>your opinions on sanity are clearly uninformed...even almost insane..
>>
watching your uninformed posts
>You don't, is the correct answer.
you wish
>>i doubt you could even come close to defining 'insanity'...even if
>> you copied it out from wikipedia.
>
>actually read it.
so...you believe the oed..which you don't read...will answer
your uninformed ramblings...
ok, that's cool
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Aug 15, 2012, 4:12:41 PM8/15/12
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On Wed, 15 Aug 2012 20:59:23 +0100, Malcolm
<Mal...@indaal.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>In article <88un281ue8dm43v4b...@4ax.com>, abelard
>>you are indeed pathetic...
>>you seek authority because you are too ignorant to make
>> informed judgements
>>
>Abelard continues to indulge in wild and ill-informed speculation as an
>alternative to producing a single fact. How very typical.
the fact is that you don't have a clue...
>>>>>>.plus over 10 years
>>>>>> watching him...
>>>>>
>>>>>We've all had that experience and have opinions about Robert, too.
>>>>
>>>>what've your 'opinions'..to do with his sanity or otherwise?
>>>>your opinions on sanity are clearly uninformed...even almost insane..
>>>>
>>>How do you know that my opinions are "clearly uninformed"?
>>
>>watching your uninformed posts
>>
>Which tell you nothing about me.
of course not...you post like a prat because you're an undiscovered
genius
>>>You don't, is the correct answer.
>>
>>you wish
>>
>I know. You don't answer questions.
you don't ask questions...you make vacuous assertions which
you then can't back up
>>>>i doubt you could even come close to defining 'insanity'...even if
>>>> you copied it out from wikipedia.
>>>
>>>Look it up in the OED, if you can manage to find the right entry and
>>>actually read it.
>>
>>so...you believe the oed.
>
>It's a better source than you are.
another foolish and vacuous assertion
>>.which you don't read.
>
>More nonsense from the master of it.
then you can quote from it...
you probably don't even know what it is
>>..will answer
>> your uninformed ramblings...
>
>The OED will provide definitions of words. Perhaps you didn't realise
>that, which would account for your ridiculous comments when someone
>mentions consulting it.
that's another vacuous assertion...
and you believe your posts don't give room for judging
you vacuity
>>ok, that's cool
>
>No, it's sensible.
what is? your general ignorance?
your inability to make any coherent argument?
your posturing as an expert on 'mental illness'?
<Mal...@indaal.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>In article <88un281ue8dm43v4b...@4ax.com>, abelard
>>you are indeed pathetic...
>>you seek authority because you are too ignorant to make
>> informed judgements
>>
>alternative to producing a single fact. How very typical.
the fact is that you don't have a clue...
>>>>>>.plus over 10 years
>>>>>> watching him...
>>>>>
>>>>>We've all had that experience and have opinions about Robert, too.
>>>>
>>>>what've your 'opinions'..to do with his sanity or otherwise?
>>>>your opinions on sanity are clearly uninformed...even almost insane..
>>>>
>>>How do you know that my opinions are "clearly uninformed"?
>>
>>watching your uninformed posts
>>
of course not...you post like a prat because you're an undiscovered
genius
>>>You don't, is the correct answer.
>>
>>you wish
>>
you don't ask questions...you make vacuous assertions which
you then can't back up
>>>>i doubt you could even come close to defining 'insanity'...even if
>>>> you copied it out from wikipedia.
>>>
>>>Look it up in the OED, if you can manage to find the right entry and
>>>actually read it.
>>
>>so...you believe the oed.
>
another foolish and vacuous assertion
>>.which you don't read.
>
>More nonsense from the master of it.
then you can quote from it...
you probably don't even know what it is
>>..will answer
>> your uninformed ramblings...
>
>The OED will provide definitions of words. Perhaps you didn't realise
>that, which would account for your ridiculous comments when someone
>mentions consulting it.
that's another vacuous assertion...
and you believe your posts don't give room for judging
you vacuity
>>ok, that's cool
>
>No, it's sensible.
what is? your general ignorance?
your inability to make any coherent argument?
your posturing as an expert on 'mental illness'?
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Aug 16, 2012, 5:16:45 AM8/16/12
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On Thu, 16 Aug 2012 07:33:46 +0100, Malcolm
<Mal...@indaal.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>In article <la0o281jr86f6ums4...@4ax.com>, abelard
><abel...@abelard.org> writes
>"a prat" or "an undiscovered genius", and you're certainly not the
>latter.
i claimed no such thing...you can't read with attention
>>>>.which you don't read.
>>>
>>>More nonsense from the master of it.
>>
>>then you can quote from it...
>>you probably don't even know what it is
>>
>You do make the most remarkably stupid comments. The SOED is on my
>computer, the OED is freely accessible to me via the internet.
>
>Two facts you didn't know.
you clearly don't know the difference...
let alone the differences in function...
>>>>ok, that's cool
>>>
>>>No, it's sensible.
>>
>>what is? your general ignorance?
>>your inability to make any coherent argument?
>>your posturing as an expert on 'mental illness'?
>
>Nowhere have I been "posturing as an expert on mental illness".
>
>Let me remind you of the facts.
>
>After Robert had yet again indulged in his risible references to a
>fantasy "doctor" and "nurse", I asked "Does anyone think Robert is
>mentally ill?" And you responded with "not a chance"
my goodness...you can actually repeat your vacuity...
>I thought that that was a very definite statement and asked you what
>qualifications or experience you had in the subject that enabled you to
>be so definite. You responded with "a great deal better than yours". And
>you have since been unable to justify that claim in any sensible way,
>just continuing to respond with, to use you current favourite word,
>total vacuity.
you are vacuous
<Mal...@indaal.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>In article <la0o281jr86f6ums4...@4ax.com>, abelard
><abel...@abelard.org> writes
>>On Wed, 15 Aug 2012 20:59:23 +0100, Malcolm
>><Mal...@indaal.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>In article <88un281ue8dm43v4b...@4ax.com>, abelard
>><Mal...@indaal.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>In article <88un281ue8dm43v4b...@4ax.com>, abelard
>>>>so...you believe the oed.
>>>
>>>It's a better source than you are.
>>
>>another foolish and vacuous assertion
>>
>Anyone who claims that they are a better source than the OED is either a
>>>
>>>It's a better source than you are.
>>
>>another foolish and vacuous assertion
>>
>"a prat" or "an undiscovered genius", and you're certainly not the
>latter.
i claimed no such thing...you can't read with attention
>>>>.which you don't read.
>>>
>>>More nonsense from the master of it.
>>
>>then you can quote from it...
>>you probably don't even know what it is
>>
>computer, the OED is freely accessible to me via the internet.
>
>Two facts you didn't know.
you clearly don't know the difference...
let alone the differences in function...
>>>>ok, that's cool
>>>
>>>No, it's sensible.
>>
>>what is? your general ignorance?
>>your inability to make any coherent argument?
>>your posturing as an expert on 'mental illness'?
>
>
>Let me remind you of the facts.
>
>After Robert had yet again indulged in his risible references to a
>fantasy "doctor" and "nurse", I asked "Does anyone think Robert is
>mentally ill?" And you responded with "not a chance"
my goodness...you can actually repeat your vacuity...
>I thought that that was a very definite statement and asked you what
>qualifications or experience you had in the subject that enabled you to
>be so definite. You responded with "a great deal better than yours". And
>you have since been unable to justify that claim in any sensible way,
>just continuing to respond with, to use you current favourite word,
>total vacuity.
you are vacuous
Magnus
Aug 16, 2012, 5:28:57 AM8/16/12
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abelard <abel...@abelard.org> wrote in
news:uuon2857n6b3n9sm5...@4ax.com:
What?
>
> but of course i don't expect you use the oed....but some
> cut down version for idiots
Bzzzt, wrong, but thanks for playing. I work in a law library and have
the full 20-volume set next to my desk, as well as the OED historical
thesaurus of the English language. The idiot's version is clearly yours.
Please try harder.
news:uuon2857n6b3n9sm5...@4ax.com:
>
> but of course i don't expect you use the oed....but some
> cut down version for idiots
the full 20-volume set next to my desk, as well as the OED historical
thesaurus of the English language. The idiot's version is clearly yours.
Please try harder.
abelard
Aug 16, 2012, 5:34:29 AM8/16/12
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On Thu, 16 Aug 2012 09:28:57 GMT, Magnus <Your...@your.biz> wrote:
>g. I work in a law library and have
>the full 20-volume set next to my desk, as well as the OED historical
>thesaurus of the English language. The idiot's version is clearly yours.
>Please try harder.
of course you do...
>g. I work in a law library and have
>the full 20-volume set next to my desk, as well as the OED historical
>thesaurus of the English language. The idiot's version is clearly yours.
>Please try harder.
shame you don't know the difference...
i expect you're a fully active member of the sas and
a 5th dan in karate as well...and of course a psychiatrist
who do you think you bluff?
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Aug 16, 2012, 7:03:38 AM8/16/12
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On Thu, 16 Aug 2012 10:56:20 +0000 (UTC), soupdragon <m...@privacy.net>
>news:qhfp289i5gvgtdovm...@4ax.com:
>confirm - he does indeed.
rotfl
what? he works in a library?
>> shame you don't know the difference...
>>
>> i expect you're a fully active member of the sas and
>> a 5th dan in karate as well...and of course a psychiatrist
>
>No. I don't think he's claimed those, but he has been quoted in New
>Scientist and is a very good acoustic guitar player.
that i can believe :-)
>> who do you think you bluff?
>
>There's no bluff. Any other straws you'd like to clutch at as you wriggle
>desperately.
go try to defend someone more worthy...
>news:qhfp289i5gvgtdovm...@4ax.com:
>
>> On Thu, 16 Aug 2012 09:28:57 GMT, Magnus <Your...@your.biz> wrote:
>>
>>>g. I work in a law library and have
>>>the full 20-volume set next to my desk, as well as the OED historical
>>>thesaurus of the English language. The idiot's version is clearly yours.
>>>Please try harder.
>>
>> of course you do...
>
>As those of us both here, and on scs who've met him in real life will
>> On Thu, 16 Aug 2012 09:28:57 GMT, Magnus <Your...@your.biz> wrote:
>>
>>>g. I work in a law library and have
>>>the full 20-volume set next to my desk, as well as the OED historical
>>>thesaurus of the English language. The idiot's version is clearly yours.
>>>Please try harder.
>>
>> of course you do...
>
>confirm - he does indeed.
rotfl
what? he works in a library?
>> shame you don't know the difference...
>>
>> i expect you're a fully active member of the sas and
>> a 5th dan in karate as well...and of course a psychiatrist
>
>Scientist and is a very good acoustic guitar player.
that i can believe :-)
>> who do you think you bluff?
>
>desperately.
go try to defend someone more worthy...
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Aug 16, 2012, 7:37:26 AM8/16/12
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On Thu, 16 Aug 2012 11:31:46 +0000 (UTC), soupdragon <m...@privacy.net>
>news:ppkp28dk4668j53nr...@4ax.com:
>intellectual dishonesty by selective editing, oh no!]
good...there's a limit to how much nonsense i'm going
to keep repeating...if you don't like something...
repeat it and i'll respond if sane and relevant
i'm glad you're not being intellectually dishonest by suggesting
i would behave otherwise
>>Magnus: And you're just wriggling. Go and consult a dictionary.
>
>abelard: you don't get it...a dictionary is an opinion...
>
>>Magnus: Generally regarded as authoritative,
>
>abelard: by idiots
so?
>>Magnus: particularly in a court of law as
>
>abelard: by fantasists
so?
>>Magnus:in the case of the OED. Your opinion, however, carries no weight.
>
>abelard:the oed does not carry mt 'opinion' but of course i don't expect
>[end of restore]
>Do you have a reading problem? He told you that above.
so?
>>>> shame you don't know the difference...
>>>>
>>>> i expect you're a fully active member of the sas and
>>>> a 5th dan in karate as well...and of course a psychiatrist
>>>
>>>No. I don't think he's claimed those, but he has been quoted in New
>>>Scientist and is a very good acoustic guitar player.
>>
>> that i can believe :-)
>>
>>>> who do you think you bluff?
>>>
>>>There's no bluff. Any other straws you'd like to clutch at as you
>>>wriggle desperately.
>>
>> go try to defend someone more worthy...
>
>Who says I'm defending him? I'm just laughing at your increasingly
>desperate wriggling. Anything that adds to your discomfort is a bonus.
it looks more likely you're trying to find a cause because i've
refused to take you seriously in the past
your present post is effectively content free....as usual
>news:ppkp28dk4668j53nr...@4ax.com:
>
>> On Thu, 16 Aug 2012 10:56:20 +0000 (UTC), soupdragon <m...@privacy.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>abelard <abel...@abelard.org> wrote in
>>>news:qhfp289i5gvgtdovm...@4ax.com:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 16 Aug 2012 09:28:57 GMT, Magnus <Your...@your.biz> wrote:
>
>[context of exchange restored - we wouldn't want abelard accused of
>> On Thu, 16 Aug 2012 10:56:20 +0000 (UTC), soupdragon <m...@privacy.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>abelard <abel...@abelard.org> wrote in
>>>news:qhfp289i5gvgtdovm...@4ax.com:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 16 Aug 2012 09:28:57 GMT, Magnus <Your...@your.biz> wrote:
>
>intellectual dishonesty by selective editing, oh no!]
good...there's a limit to how much nonsense i'm going
to keep repeating...if you don't like something...
repeat it and i'll respond if sane and relevant
i'm glad you're not being intellectually dishonest by suggesting
i would behave otherwise
>>Magnus: And you're just wriggling. Go and consult a dictionary.
>
>abelard: you don't get it...a dictionary is an opinion...
>
>>Magnus: Generally regarded as authoritative,
>
>abelard: by idiots
so?
>>Magnus: particularly in a court of law as
>
>abelard: by fantasists
so?
>>Magnus:in the case of the OED. Your opinion, however, carries no weight.
>
>abelard:the oed does not carry mt 'opinion' but of course i don't expect
>you use the oed....but some cut down version for idiots
so?
>[end of restore]
>
>>>>>g. I work in a law library and have
>>>>>the full 20-volume set next to my desk, as well as the OED
>>>>>historical thesaurus of the English language. The idiot's version is
>>>>>clearly yours. Please try harder.
>>>>
>>>> of course you do...
>>>
>>>As those of us both here, and on scs who've met him in real life will
>>>confirm - he does indeed.
>>
>> rotfl
>> what? he works in a library?
>
>He works in the law library of the Court of Session - a law court.
>>>>>g. I work in a law library and have
>>>>>the full 20-volume set next to my desk, as well as the OED
>>>>>historical thesaurus of the English language. The idiot's version is
>>>>>clearly yours. Please try harder.
>>>>
>>>> of course you do...
>>>
>>>As those of us both here, and on scs who've met him in real life will
>>>confirm - he does indeed.
>>
>> rotfl
>> what? he works in a library?
>
>Do you have a reading problem? He told you that above.
so?
>>>> shame you don't know the difference...
>>>>
>>>> i expect you're a fully active member of the sas and
>>>> a 5th dan in karate as well...and of course a psychiatrist
>>>
>>>No. I don't think he's claimed those, but he has been quoted in New
>>>Scientist and is a very good acoustic guitar player.
>>
>> that i can believe :-)
>>
>>>> who do you think you bluff?
>>>
>>>There's no bluff. Any other straws you'd like to clutch at as you
>>>wriggle desperately.
>>
>> go try to defend someone more worthy...
>
>desperate wriggling. Anything that adds to your discomfort is a bonus.
it looks more likely you're trying to find a cause because i've
refused to take you seriously in the past
your present post is effectively content free....as usual
Magnus
Aug 16, 2012, 12:36:36 PM8/16/12
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Let's try to break it down into digestible chunks that even abelard can
manage.
I work in the Court of Session library, and have access (about 6 feet away)
to the full 20-volume OED. I can therefore provide more authoritative
sources, accepted in a court of law, than abelard, who seems to think his
"opinion" counts for more. Oh dear.
Soupdragon is correct (gawd knows where he/she dredged it up, though) in
that before I retired I was published in a range of scientific
publications; the court job is for amusement and to supplement my pension.
I'm also a halfways decent fingerstyle acoustic guitarist. The Les Paul and
twin-neck get less of an outing these days.
Let's hear it, Lardy; what's your authority?
manage.
I work in the Court of Session library, and have access (about 6 feet away)
to the full 20-volume OED. I can therefore provide more authoritative
sources, accepted in a court of law, than abelard, who seems to think his
"opinion" counts for more. Oh dear.
Soupdragon is correct (gawd knows where he/she dredged it up, though) in
that before I retired I was published in a range of scientific
publications; the court job is for amusement and to supplement my pension.
I'm also a halfways decent fingerstyle acoustic guitarist. The Les Paul and
twin-neck get less of an outing these days.
Let's hear it, Lardy; what's your authority?
abelard
Aug 16, 2012, 1:39:54 PM8/16/12
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On Thu, 16 Aug 2012 16:36:36 GMT, Magnus <Your...@your.biz> wrote:
>Let's try to break it down into digestible chunks that even abelard can
>manage.
>
>I work in the Court of Session library, and have access (about 6 feet away)
>to the full 20-volume OED.
so do the cleaners
>Let's try to break it down into digestible chunks that even abelard can
>manage.
>
>I work in the Court of Session library, and have access (about 6 feet away)
>to the full 20-volume OED.
> I can therefore provide more authoritative
>sources, accepted in a court of law, than abelard, who seems to think his
>"opinion" counts for more. Oh dear.
>Soupdragon is correct (gawd knows where he/she dredged it up, though) in
>that before I retired I was published in a range of scientific
>publications; the court job is for amusement and to supplement my pension.
>I'm also a halfways decent fingerstyle guitarist. The Les Paul and
>twin-neck get less of an outing these days.
>
>Let's hear it, Lardy; what's your authority?
why would i be seeking 'authorities'?
>
>Let's hear it, Lardy; what's your authority?
i can see you panicking around trying to find out why the oed
is different from your cut down version for idiots...
while carefully avoiding saying what that difference is....
i can see you rushing to open a volume of the oed in the
library which you never opened before....
who do you think you're bluffing...
perhaps you should rush back to the library to look up
'the authoritative meaning' of authoritative...
or could try a desperate google search...
of get soupy to try again to rescue you...maybe he has magick powers
or perhaps you could entertain with another of you 'authoritative
psychiatric diagnoses....
RH
Aug 16, 2012, 2:24:17 PM8/16/12
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level boasting, doctor,...." RH
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Aug 16, 2012, 3:46:49 PM8/16/12
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On Thu, 16 Aug 2012 20:38:04 +0100, Malcolm
<Mal...@indaal.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>In article <kdep28pidg6npdr43...@4ax.com>, abelard
>yourself have already been noted by Magnus and Soupdragon, and here you
>are still digging away.
may i know why idiots like you keep claiming stunning victories
when you have achieved nothing?
>>>>>>.which you don't read.
>>>>>
>>>>>More nonsense from the master of it.
>>>>
>>>>then you can quote from it...
>>>>you probably don't even know what it is
>>>>
>>>You do make the most remarkably stupid comments. The SOED is on my
>>>computer, the OED is freely accessible to me via the internet.
>>>
>>>Two facts you didn't know.
>>
>>you clearly don't know the difference...
>>let alone the differences in function...
>>
>Another stupid and fanciful assertion for which you haven't a scrap of
>evidence as an alternative to accepting the two facts I have just given
>you. You're not very good at accepting facts, are you?
>
>I also note that you haven't produced one jot of evidence to support
>your claim that your knowledge of mental illness is "a great deal better
>than yours".
>
>Your hole just got even deeper.
<Mal...@indaal.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>In article <kdep28pidg6npdr43...@4ax.com>, abelard
><abel...@abelard.org> writes
>>On Thu, 16 Aug 2012 07:33:46 +0100, Malcolm
>><Mal...@indaal.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>In article <la0o281jr86f6ums4...@4ax.com>, abelard
>>><abel...@abelard.org> writes
>>>>On Wed, 15 Aug 2012 20:59:23 +0100, Malcolm
>>>><Mal...@indaal.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>In article <88un281ue8dm43v4b...@4ax.com>, abelard
>>
>>>>>>so...you believe the oed.
>>>>>
>>>>>It's a better source than you are.
>>>>
>>>>another foolish and vacuous assertion
>>>>
>>>Anyone who claims that they are a better source than the OED is either a
>>>"a prat" or "an undiscovered genius", and you're certainly not the
>>>latter.
>>
>>i claimed no such thing...you can't read with attention
>>
>Your feeble attempts at trying to get out of the hole you've dug for
>>On Thu, 16 Aug 2012 07:33:46 +0100, Malcolm
>><Mal...@indaal.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>In article <la0o281jr86f6ums4...@4ax.com>, abelard
>>><abel...@abelard.org> writes
>>>>On Wed, 15 Aug 2012 20:59:23 +0100, Malcolm
>>>><Mal...@indaal.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>In article <88un281ue8dm43v4b...@4ax.com>, abelard
>>
>>>>>>so...you believe the oed.
>>>>>
>>>>>It's a better source than you are.
>>>>
>>>>another foolish and vacuous assertion
>>>>
>>>Anyone who claims that they are a better source than the OED is either a
>>>"a prat" or "an undiscovered genius", and you're certainly not the
>>>latter.
>>
>>i claimed no such thing...you can't read with attention
>>
>yourself have already been noted by Magnus and Soupdragon, and here you
>are still digging away.
may i know why idiots like you keep claiming stunning victories
when you have achieved nothing?
>>>>>>.which you don't read.
>>>>>
>>>>>More nonsense from the master of it.
>>>>
>>>>then you can quote from it...
>>>>you probably don't even know what it is
>>>>
>>>You do make the most remarkably stupid comments. The SOED is on my
>>>computer, the OED is freely accessible to me via the internet.
>>>
>>>Two facts you didn't know.
>>
>>you clearly don't know the difference...
>>let alone the differences in function...
>>
>evidence as an alternative to accepting the two facts I have just given
>you. You're not very good at accepting facts, are you?
>
>>>>>>ok, that's cool
>>>>>
>>>>>No, it's sensible.
>>>>
>>>>what is? your general ignorance?
>>>>your inability to make any coherent argument?
>>>>your posturing as an expert on 'mental illness'?
>>>
>>>Nowhere have I been "posturing as an expert on mental illness".
>>>
>>>Let me remind you of the facts.
>>>
>>>After Robert had yet again indulged in his risible references to a
>>>fantasy "doctor" and "nurse", I asked "Does anyone think Robert is
>>>mentally ill?" And you responded with "not a chance"
>>
>>my goodness...you can actually repeat your vacuity...
>>
>Oh look, the little boy is still repeating his nice new shiny word.
>>>>>>ok, that's cool
>>>>>
>>>>>No, it's sensible.
>>>>
>>>>what is? your general ignorance?
>>>>your inability to make any coherent argument?
>>>>your posturing as an expert on 'mental illness'?
>>>
>>>Nowhere have I been "posturing as an expert on mental illness".
>>>
>>>Let me remind you of the facts.
>>>
>>>After Robert had yet again indulged in his risible references to a
>>>fantasy "doctor" and "nurse", I asked "Does anyone think Robert is
>>>mentally ill?" And you responded with "not a chance"
>>
>>my goodness...you can actually repeat your vacuity...
>>
>
>>>I thought that that was a very definite statement and asked you what
>>>qualifications or experience you had in the subject that enabled you to
>>>be so definite. You responded with "a great deal better than yours". And
>>>you have since been unable to justify that claim in any sensible way,
>>>just continuing to respond with, to use you current favourite word,
>>>total vacuity.
>>
>>you are vacuous
>
>And there's the little boy's nice new word again.
>>>I thought that that was a very definite statement and asked you what
>>>qualifications or experience you had in the subject that enabled you to
>>>be so definite. You responded with "a great deal better than yours". And
>>>you have since been unable to justify that claim in any sensible way,
>>>just continuing to respond with, to use you current favourite word,
>>>total vacuity.
>>
>>you are vacuous
>
>
>I also note that you haven't produced one jot of evidence to support
>your claim that your knowledge of mental illness is "a great deal better
>than yours".
>
>Your hole just got even deeper.
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Aug 17, 2012, 7:21:34 AM8/17/12
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On Fri, 17 Aug 2012 10:52:38 +0000 (UTC), soupdragon <m...@privacy.net>
>news:ujmp28h4rctphaqsg...@4ax.com:
>comment. As someone around here is wont to say "Echoing the comments
>of others is the sign of a bounded mind lacking in original thought".
forlornly, both malcolm and yourself are proving too dumb to even be
able to follow what is being said...
let's hope magnus can do better
>news:ujmp28h4rctphaqsg...@4ax.com:
>
>> On Thu, 16 Aug 2012 11:31:46 +0000 (UTC), soupdragon <m...@privacy.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>abelard <abel...@abelard.org> wrote in
>>>news:ppkp28dk4668j53nr...@4ax.com:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 16 Aug 2012 10:56:20 +0000 (UTC), soupdragon <m...@privacy.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>abelard <abel...@abelard.org> wrote in
>>>>>news:qhfp289i5gvgtdovm...@4ax.com:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, 16 Aug 2012 09:28:57 GMT, Magnus <Your...@your.biz> wrote:
>>>
>>>[context of exchange restored - we wouldn't want abelard accused of
>>>intellectual dishonesty by selective editing, oh no!]
>>
>> good...there's a limit to how much nonsense i'm going
>> to keep repeating...if you don't like something...
>> repeat it and i'll respond if sane and relevant
>>
>> i'm glad you're not being intellectually dishonest by suggesting
>> i would behave otherwise
>
>I suggest you read it again. Still, nice to see you echoing my own
>> On Thu, 16 Aug 2012 11:31:46 +0000 (UTC), soupdragon <m...@privacy.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>abelard <abel...@abelard.org> wrote in
>>>news:ppkp28dk4668j53nr...@4ax.com:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 16 Aug 2012 10:56:20 +0000 (UTC), soupdragon <m...@privacy.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>abelard <abel...@abelard.org> wrote in
>>>>>news:qhfp289i5gvgtdovm...@4ax.com:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, 16 Aug 2012 09:28:57 GMT, Magnus <Your...@your.biz> wrote:
>>>
>>>[context of exchange restored - we wouldn't want abelard accused of
>>>intellectual dishonesty by selective editing, oh no!]
>>
>> good...there's a limit to how much nonsense i'm going
>> to keep repeating...if you don't like something...
>> repeat it and i'll respond if sane and relevant
>>
>> i'm glad you're not being intellectually dishonest by suggesting
>> i would behave otherwise
>
>comment. As someone around here is wont to say "Echoing the comments
>of others is the sign of a bounded mind lacking in original thought".
forlornly, both malcolm and yourself are proving too dumb to even be
able to follow what is being said...
let's hope magnus can do better
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Aug 17, 2012, 10:52:24 AM8/17/12
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Malcolm <Mal...@indaal.demon.co.uk> wrote in
news:C1$g7+Qe$kLQ...@indaal.demon.co.uk:
>
> In article <85as289vmnnq44tcs...@4ax.com>, abelard
> <abel...@abelard.org> writes
> Abelard tries, and fails of course, to pretend that he is anything but
> an idiot of the first order.
> you tried to disparage the fact that he works in a library. Have you
> ever been in a library, by the way?
>
Malcolm, it's a bit sad that he appears to think that "I work in a
library" is a boast. Perhaps he thinks that "I work" is a boast. Perhaps
he ought to try working sometime.
This has all drifted away from his unsupported assertion that only
cranes hoist.
Incidentally, "i'll respond if sane and relevant"; fail on both counts,
I'd suggest.
news:C1$g7+Qe$kLQ...@indaal.demon.co.uk:
>
> In article <85as289vmnnq44tcs...@4ax.com>, abelard
> <abel...@abelard.org> writes
> an idiot of the first order.
>
>>let's hope magnus can do better
>
> Why should he bother? You have already been proved to be an idiot when
>>let's hope magnus can do better
>
> you tried to disparage the fact that he works in a library. Have you
> ever been in a library, by the way?
>
Malcolm, it's a bit sad that he appears to think that "I work in a
library" is a boast. Perhaps he thinks that "I work" is a boast. Perhaps
he ought to try working sometime.
This has all drifted away from his unsupported assertion that only
cranes hoist.
Incidentally, "i'll respond if sane and relevant"; fail on both counts,
I'd suggest.
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Aug 17, 2012, 1:45:56 PM8/17/12
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On Fri, 17 Aug 2012 14:52:24 GMT, Magnus <Your...@your.biz> wrote:
>Malcolm, it's a bit sad that he appears to think that "I work in a
>library" is a boast. Perhaps he thinks that "I work" is a boast. Perhaps
>he ought to try working sometime.
i didn't use that word...rh did...
>Malcolm, it's a bit sad that he appears to think that "I work in a
>library" is a boast. Perhaps he thinks that "I work" is a boast. Perhaps
>he ought to try working sometime.
you have a very muddled mind....
but maybe it's marginally better than your aspiring knight...maybe
>This has all drifted away from his unsupported assertion that only
>cranes hoist.
>
>Incidentally, "i'll respond if sane and relevant"; fail on both counts,
>I'd suggest.
abelard
Aug 17, 2012, 1:49:11 PM8/17/12
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On Fri, 17 Aug 2012 16:17:12 +0100, Malcolm
<Mal...@indaal.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>In article <XnsA0B2A182...@81.171.92.236>, Magnus
><Your...@your.biz> writes
>doesn't understand the use of capital letters at the beginning of
>sentences!
cranes support mister dimbo
you are in the stupid box....you'll need to 'work' to extract
yourself...i'm betting you can't
magnus still has a faint hope...maybe
little wonder rh teases you lot so much
>>Incidentally, "i'll respond if sane and relevant"; fail on both counts,
>>I'd suggest.
>
>Absolutely.
<Mal...@indaal.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>In article <XnsA0B2A182...@81.171.92.236>, Magnus
><Your...@your.biz> writes
>>Malcolm <Mal...@indaal.demon.co.uk> wrote in
>>news:C1$g7+Qe$kLQ...@indaal.demon.co.uk:
>>> In article <85as289vmnnq44tcs...@4ax.com>, abelard
>>> <abel...@abelard.org> writes
>
>>news:C1$g7+Qe$kLQ...@indaal.demon.co.uk:
>>> In article <85as289vmnnq44tcs...@4ax.com>, abelard
>>> <abel...@abelard.org> writes
>
>>>>forlornly, both malcolm and yourself are proving too dumb to even be
>>>> able to follow what is being said...
>>>>
>>> Abelard tries, and fails of course, to pretend that he is anything but
>>> an idiot of the first order.
>>>
>>>>let's hope magnus can do better
>>>
>>> Why should he bother? You have already been proved to be an idiot when
>>> you tried to disparage the fact that he works in a library. Have you
>>> ever been in a library, by the way?
>>>
>>
>>Malcolm, it's a bit sad that he appears to think that "I work in a
>>library" is a boast. Perhaps he thinks that "I work" is a boast. Perhaps
>>he ought to try working sometime.
>>
>Perhaps he has tried and failed. Perhaps no-one will employ someone who
>>>> able to follow what is being said...
>>>>
>>> Abelard tries, and fails of course, to pretend that he is anything but
>>> an idiot of the first order.
>>>
>>>>let's hope magnus can do better
>>>
>>> Why should he bother? You have already been proved to be an idiot when
>>> you tried to disparage the fact that he works in a library. Have you
>>> ever been in a library, by the way?
>>>
>>
>>Malcolm, it's a bit sad that he appears to think that "I work in a
>>library" is a boast. Perhaps he thinks that "I work" is a boast. Perhaps
>>he ought to try working sometime.
>>
>doesn't understand the use of capital letters at the beginning of
>sentences!
>
>>This has all drifted away from his unsupported assertion that only
>>cranes hoist.
>>
>And several other such unsupported assertions!
>>This has all drifted away from his unsupported assertion that only
>>cranes hoist.
>>
cranes support mister dimbo
you are in the stupid box....you'll need to 'work' to extract
yourself...i'm betting you can't
magnus still has a faint hope...maybe
little wonder rh teases you lot so much
>>Incidentally, "i'll respond if sane and relevant"; fail on both counts,
>>I'd suggest.
>
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Aug 17, 2012, 2:24:49 PM8/17/12
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On Fri, 17 Aug 2012 19:12:15 +0100, Malcolm
<Mal...@indaal.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>In article <8r0t28t7omgt9evh3...@4ax.com>, abelard
><abel...@abelard.org> writes
>Gibberish
>be quite as stupid.
you have crafted yet another inspiring post....for a registered donor
<Mal...@indaal.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>In article <8r0t28t7omgt9evh3...@4ax.com>, abelard
><abel...@abelard.org> writes
>
>>you are in the stupid box....you'll need to 'work' to extract
>> yourself...i'm betting you can't
>>
>More gibberish.
>>you are in the stupid box....you'll need to 'work' to extract
>> yourself...i'm betting you can't
>>
>
>>magnus still has a faint hope...maybe
>>
>Names start with a capital letter.
>>magnus still has a faint hope...maybe
>>
>
>>little wonder rh teases you lot so much
>>
>RH is very nearly as stupid as you are. It would be difficult for him to
>>little wonder rh teases you lot so much
>>
>be quite as stupid.
you have crafted yet another inspiring post....for a registered donor
Magnus
Aug 17, 2012, 3:32:59 PM8/17/12
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abelard <abel...@abelard.org> wrote in
news:8r0t28t7omgt9evh3...@4ax.com:
Pit props support, but don't hoist. Not equivalent, I'm afraid to say.
news:8r0t28t7omgt9evh3...@4ax.com:
Magnus
Aug 17, 2012, 3:33:49 PM8/17/12
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abelard <abel...@abelard.org> wrote in
news:tl0t28lgpucbd9trq...@4ax.com:
It was your phrase, no-one else's.
news:tl0t28lgpucbd9trq...@4ax.com:
abelard
Aug 17, 2012, 3:37:03 PM8/17/12
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abelard
Aug 17, 2012, 3:37:25 PM8/17/12
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Halmyre
Aug 17, 2012, 4:05:30 PM8/17/12
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On Aug 17, 6:49 pm, abelard <abela...@abelard.org> wrote:
> On Fri, 17 Aug 2012 16:17:12 +0100, Malcolm
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> <Malc...@indaal.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> On Fri, 17 Aug 2012 16:17:12 +0100, Malcolm
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >In article <XnsA0B2A1825981AMag...@81.171.92.236>, Magnus
> ><Yourn...@your.biz> writes
> >>Malcolm <Malc...@indaal.demon.co.uk> wrote in
> >>news:C1$g7+Qe$kLQ...@indaal.demon.co.uk:
> >>> In article <85as289vmnnq44tcsga278k8n2o04la...@4ax.com>, abelard
> >>> <abela...@abelard.org> writes
>
> >>>>forlornly, both malcolm and yourself are proving too dumb to even be
> >>>> able to follow what is being said...
>
> >>> Abelard tries, and fails of course, to pretend that he is anything but
> >>> an idiot of the first order.
>
> >>>>let's hope magnus can do better
>
> >>> Why should he bother? You have already been proved to be an idiot when
> >>> you tried to disparage the fact that he works in a library. Have you
> >>> ever been in a library, by the way?
>
> >>Malcolm, it's a bit sad that he appears to think that "I work in a
> >>library" is a boast. Perhaps he thinks that "I work" is a boast. Perhaps
> >>he ought to try working sometime.
>
> >Perhaps he has tried and failed. Perhaps no-one will employ someone who
> >doesn't understand the use of capital letters at the beginning of
> >sentences!
>
> >>This has all drifted away from his unsupported assertion that only
> >>cranes hoist.
>
> >And several other such unsupported assertions!
>
> cranes support mister dimbo
>
What?!? Which idiot's dictionary did you find that definition in? A
> >>>>forlornly, both malcolm and yourself are proving too dumb to even be
> >>>> able to follow what is being said...
>
> >>> Abelard tries, and fails of course, to pretend that he is anything but
> >>> an idiot of the first order.
>
> >>>>let's hope magnus can do better
>
> >>> Why should he bother? You have already been proved to be an idiot when
> >>> you tried to disparage the fact that he works in a library. Have you
> >>> ever been in a library, by the way?
>
> >>Malcolm, it's a bit sad that he appears to think that "I work in a
> >>library" is a boast. Perhaps he thinks that "I work" is a boast. Perhaps
> >>he ought to try working sometime.
>
> >Perhaps he has tried and failed. Perhaps no-one will employ someone who
> >doesn't understand the use of capital letters at the beginning of
> >sentences!
>
> >>This has all drifted away from his unsupported assertion that only
> >>cranes hoist.
>
> >And several other such unsupported assertions!
>
> cranes support mister dimbo
>
crane's purpose is to lift things. No-one ever thinks of a crane as a
device for supporting something.
--
Halmyr
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Aug 17, 2012, 4:28:42 PM8/17/12
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if cranes didn't support, then baybees wouldn't arrive on time
or intact...
>No-one ever thinks of a crane as a
>device for supporting something.
abelard
Aug 17, 2012, 4:29:21 PM8/17/12
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On Fri, 17 Aug 2012 21:20:28 +0100, Malcolm
<Mal...@indaal.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>In article <h13t28hdjen59mb3s...@4ax.com>, abelard
>I have crafted a post that made sense, unlike your contributions.
you again...
<Mal...@indaal.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>In article <h13t28hdjen59mb3s...@4ax.com>, abelard
you again...
Magnus
Aug 17, 2012, 5:17:09 PM8/17/12
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abelard <abel...@abelard.org> wrote in
news:s5at2812h8bje4033...@4ax.com:
Storks, I think, but I know what you mean. ;)
news:s5at2812h8bje4033...@4ax.com:
Halmyre
Aug 17, 2012, 5:45:45 PM8/17/12
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>
> >No-one ever thinks of a crane as a
> >device for supporting something.
>
> is that the result of an exhausting survey?
oblivious.
--
Halmyre
abelard
Aug 17, 2012, 5:54:29 PM8/17/12
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On Fri, 17 Aug 2012 14:45:45 -0700 (PDT), Halmyre
<flashgord...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>On Aug 17, 9:28 pm, abelard <abela...@abelard.org> wrote:
>> On Fri, 17 Aug 2012 13:05:30 -0700 (PDT), Halmyre
>>
>
<flashgord...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>On Aug 17, 9:28 pm, abelard <abela...@abelard.org> wrote:
>> On Fri, 17 Aug 2012 13:05:30 -0700 (PDT), Halmyre
>>
>
>> >No-one ever thinks of a crane as a
>> >device for supporting something.
>>
>> is that the result of an exhausting survey?
>
>No, it's common sense, a concept with which you're obviously
>oblivious.
'common sense' is not a widely recognised statistical technique...
>> >device for supporting something.
>>
>> is that the result of an exhausting survey?
>
>No, it's common sense, a concept with which you're obviously
>oblivious.
abelard
Aug 17, 2012, 5:58:33 PM8/17/12
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there was a stalk involved somewhere
My two cents
Aug 17, 2012, 8:59:07 PM8/17/12
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> <04028e4e-9068-49c8-91ee-a3d20205a...@r4g2000vbn.googlegroups.com>, RH
> <anywhere...@gmail.com> writes>http://englandcalling.wordpress.com/2012/08/14/the-olympics-england-and-
> >the-celtic-fringe/
>
> >The Olympics: England and the Celtic Fringe
>
> >Posted on August 14, 2012
>
> >If the Celtic involvement in team medals had not existed it is
> >probable that England would have been able to fill the places with
> >competitors of equal quality.
>
> It is "probable". It is obvious that RH doesn't have the courage of his
> convictions if it is only "probable". It is also absolutely obvious that
> Robert now accepts that the likes of Jessica Ennis and Mo Farah are, by
> his definition, English.
>
> Well done, Robert. You're getting there.
Haha. Nice one, Malcolm! Not that I want to throw cold water on team
GBs
olympic triumphs but isn't sporting success (or failure) a dubious way
to measure
a nation's worth?
> --
> Malcolm
> <anywhere...@gmail.com> writes>http://englandcalling.wordpress.com/2012/08/14/the-olympics-england-and-
> >the-celtic-fringe/
>
> >The Olympics: England and the Celtic Fringe
>
> >Posted on August 14, 2012
>
> >If the Celtic involvement in team medals had not existed it is
> >probable that England would have been able to fill the places with
> >competitors of equal quality.
>
> It is "probable". It is obvious that RH doesn't have the courage of his
> convictions if it is only "probable". It is also absolutely obvious that
> Robert now accepts that the likes of Jessica Ennis and Mo Farah are, by
> his definition, English.
>
> Well done, Robert. You're getting there.
Haha. Nice one, Malcolm! Not that I want to throw cold water on team
GBs
olympic triumphs but isn't sporting success (or failure) a dubious way
to measure
a nation's worth?
> --
> Malcolm
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joeh
Aug 18, 2012, 8:06:51 AM8/18/12
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On Aug 18, 8:45 am, Malcolm <Malc...@indaal.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <8cat285k7sck8fc9rbv7599vqdbr6mq...@4ax.com>, abelard
> <abela...@abelard.org> writes
>
> >>In article <h13t28hdjen59mb3s91c62dtlts3r6m...@4ax.com>, abelard
> >><abela...@abelard.org> writes
>
> >>>>In article <8r0t28t7omgt9evh38t9ub65he0iutt...@4ax.com>, abelard
> >>>><abela...@abelard.org> writes
> >>>>>>>news:C1$g7+Qe$kLQ...@indaal.demon.co.uk:
> >>>>>>>> In article <85as289vmnnq44tcsga278k8n2o04la...@4ax.com>, abelard
> >>>>>>>> <abela...@abelard.org> writes
> A meaningless post from Abelard - again.
Agrebed.
> In article <8cat285k7sck8fc9rbv7599vqdbr6mq...@4ax.com>, abelard
> <abela...@abelard.org> writes
>
>
>
>
>
> >On Fri, 17 Aug 2012 21:20:28 +0100, Malcolm
> ><Malc...@indaal.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> >On Fri, 17 Aug 2012 21:20:28 +0100, Malcolm
>
> >>In article <h13t28hdjen59mb3s91c62dtlts3r6m...@4ax.com>, abelard
> >><abela...@abelard.org> writes
> >>>On Fri, 17 Aug 2012 19:12:15 +0100, Malcolm
> >>><Malc...@indaal.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >>>>In article <8r0t28t7omgt9evh38t9ub65he0iutt...@4ax.com>, abelard
> >>>><abela...@abelard.org> writes
> >>>>>On Fri, 17 Aug 2012 16:17:12 +0100, Malcolm
> >>>>><Malc...@indaal.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >>>>>>In article <XnsA0B2A1825981AMag...@81.171.92.236>, Magnus
> >>>>>><Yourn...@your.biz> writes
> >>>>>>>Malcolm <Malc...@indaal.demon.co.uk> wrote in
>
> >>>>>>In article <XnsA0B2A1825981AMag...@81.171.92.236>, Magnus
> >>>>>><Yourn...@your.biz> writes
> >>>>>>>news:C1$g7+Qe$kLQ...@indaal.demon.co.uk:
> >>>>>>>> In article <85as289vmnnq44tcsga278k8n2o04la...@4ax.com>, abelard
> >>>>>>>> <abela...@abelard.org> writes
Agrebed.
Custos Custodum
Aug 19, 2012, 12:19:33 PM8/19/12
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abelard <abel...@abelard.org> wrote in
news:bson28h8v813cgmor...@4ax.com:
> On Wed, 15 Aug 2012 10:08:22 +0000 (UTC), Custos Custodum
> <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
>
>>Malcolm <Mal...@indaal.demon.co.uk> wrote in
>>news:uK$b0iSZ0...@indaal.demon.co.uk:
>>
>>>
>>> In article
>>> <bdbdb0c5-4971-4910...@d7g2000vbv.googlegroups.com>,
RH
>>> <anywh...@gmail.com> writes
>>>>> <04028e4e-9068-49c8-91ee-a3d20205a...
>>>>hyperfantasy...." RH
>>>
>>> And Robert, hoist by his own petard, can think of nothing else to do
>>> than return to his fantasy world of "doctor" and "nurse".
>>>
>>> Does anyone think Robert is mentally ill?
>>>
>>
>>No. Illnesses are treatable. The best you could do for Fatboi's
>>condition would be to keep him permanently sedated.
>
> what 'condition' is that?
An ASD. Haven't you been paying attention?
>
> you are of course welcome to start running yet again....
Nobody's running anywhere. However you've had all the clues you're
getting from me. Now toddle along and do some 'studying'. Then you can
try and work out how his bizarre behaviour fits the symptoms. You might
want to check your own placing on the scale, but given your propensity
for self-delusion, I would advise getting someone other than yourself to
do the scoring.
news:bson28h8v813cgmor...@4ax.com:
> On Wed, 15 Aug 2012 10:08:22 +0000 (UTC), Custos Custodum
> <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
>
>>Malcolm <Mal...@indaal.demon.co.uk> wrote in
>>
>>>
>>> In article
>>> <bdbdb0c5-4971-4910...@d7g2000vbv.googlegroups.com>,
RH
>>> <anywh...@gmail.com> writes
>>>>> <04028e4e-9068-49c8-91ee-a3d20205a...
@r4g2000vbn.googlegroups.com>,
>>>>> RH <anywhere...@gmail.com>
>>>>>writes>http://englandcalling.wordpress.com/2012/08/14/the-olympics-
>>eng
>>>>>l and-and-
>>>>> >the-celtic-fringe/
>>>>>
>>>>> >The Olympics: England and the Celtic Fringe
>>>>>
>>>>> >Posted on August 14, 2012
>>>>>
>>>>> >If the Celtic involvement in team medals had not existed it is
>>>>> >probable that England would have been able to fill the places
with
>>>>> >competitors of equal quality.
>>>>>
>>>>> It is "probable". It is obvious that RH doesn't have the courage
of
>>>>> his convictions if it is only "probable". It is also absolutely
>>>>> obvious that Robert now accepts that the likes of Jessica Ennis
and
>>>>> Mo Farah are, by his definition, English.
>>>>>
>>>>> Well done, Robert. You're getting there.
>>>>
>>>>"Doctor... Doctor...patient M is having another serious fit of
>>>>> RH <anywhere...@gmail.com>
>>>>>writes>http://englandcalling.wordpress.com/2012/08/14/the-olympics-
>>eng
>>>>>l and-and-
>>>>> >the-celtic-fringe/
>>>>>
>>>>> >The Olympics: England and the Celtic Fringe
>>>>>
>>>>> >Posted on August 14, 2012
>>>>>
>>>>> >If the Celtic involvement in team medals had not existed it is
>>>>> >probable that England would have been able to fill the places
with
>>>>> >competitors of equal quality.
>>>>>
>>>>> It is "probable". It is obvious that RH doesn't have the courage
of
>>>>> his convictions if it is only "probable". It is also absolutely
>>>>> obvious that Robert now accepts that the likes of Jessica Ennis
and
>>>>> Mo Farah are, by his definition, English.
>>>>>
>>>>> Well done, Robert. You're getting there.
>>>>
>>>>hyperfantasy...." RH
>>>
>>> And Robert, hoist by his own petard, can think of nothing else to do
>>> than return to his fantasy world of "doctor" and "nurse".
>>>
>>> Does anyone think Robert is mentally ill?
>>>
>>
>>No. Illnesses are treatable. The best you could do for Fatboi's
>>condition would be to keep him permanently sedated.
>
> what 'condition' is that?
An ASD. Haven't you been paying attention?
>
> you are of course welcome to start running yet again....
Nobody's running anywhere. However you've had all the clues you're
getting from me. Now toddle along and do some 'studying'. Then you can
try and work out how his bizarre behaviour fits the symptoms. You might
want to check your own placing on the scale, but given your propensity
for self-delusion, I would advise getting someone other than yourself to
do the scoring.
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