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Austin Shackles

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Nov 16, 2007, 2:40:53 PM11/16/07
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On or around Fri, 16 Nov 2007 16:40:35 +0000 (UTC), Mr Nice
<saerimner=TRAP=@gmail.com> enlightened us thusly:

>Sorry for posting in English
>
>What would
>
>MADE IN WALES
>
>be in Welsh ?
>
>Thanks

Tricky, that's what it'd be. to make is gwneud, or gwneuthur, but the book
doesn't have "made". Wedi ei wneud is what you might say in conversation.

There may be a proper past-wossname for gwneuthur. The Geiriadur Mawr is
reticent about such, though, and lists none that I can find, so they may not
exist as a class in Welsh.

I suspect it'd be something like gwneuthurig, but that's pure guess-work,
unless someone more knowledgeable comes along to confirm or deny.

"in Wales" is "yng Nghymru".
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David Librik

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Nov 16, 2007, 5:18:21 PM11/16/07
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Mr Nice <saerimner=TRAP=@gmail.com> writes:

>What would
>MADE IN WALES
>be in Welsh ?

You're in luck. The Welsh Academy Dictionary gives four
translations for "made in Wales; Welsh made"

1. gwnaethpwyd yng Nghymru
2. a wnaethpwyd yng Nghymru
3. wedi ei wneud yng Nghymru
4. cynnyrch Cymru

The first two are very formal, official-sounding.
1 stands on it's own whereas 2 is what you'd use in
a phrase like "llwy garu a wnaethpwyd yng Nghymru"
(a love-spoon made in Wales). Verbs ending in
-pwyd are some seriously fancy Welsh.

The third one is much more informal, standard
conversational Welsh -- not at all slangy, just
not full-blown literary language. Pretty much
always safe to use.

The last phrase actually means "product of Wales,"
but in fact that might be the one you want if
you're really asking the question: "What do people
put on an object, in Welsh, that corresponds to
putting MADE IN WALES on it in English?" (I think
that phrase is more commonly used on food than on
other products, though.)

- David Librik
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Austin Shackles

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Nov 18, 2007, 9:27:57 AM11/18/07
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On or around Sun, 18 Nov 2007 08:42:54 +0000 (UTC), Mr Nice
<saerimner=TRAP=@gmail.com> enlightened us thusly:

>Thanks.
>
>I'm thinking along the lines of the
>
>'Made In England'
>
>badge on Triumph Motorbikes.
>
>I have re built mine and wanted to have 'Made In Wales' on it instead.

in that case it should say "re-made"...

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