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When Shamim wanted to make her first film, the film producers wanted obscene scenes and Hanan saw that this was not getting Shamim to where she wanted. So, without any background in production, she decided to take it on so that Shamim could become a director. It was difficult to raise funds and to do it at a pace they wanted but they stuck to their plans. They built their career, one movie at a time. They both learned aspects of film making that they did now know earlier, they chose a journey and became the best at it.

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After four movies featuring some of the best talents and garnering many awards, they are a sought-after film-making couple today. When I met them recently in Mumbai, Hanan said that suddenly everyone is interested in funding women-led movies and their body of work makes them ideal candidates. She said that they are able to get this support today because they started this journey way before it was fashionable to do so. They did what they wanted without caring if it was popular or not. Their earlier hard times did not make them bitter nor did the popularity make them arrogant. Their focus is on their work and to create poetry on screen.

Shamim thinks of scenes in musical scores and they have the gumption to hire an unknown singer they met at a bar to create some of the most beautiful scores for their first movie. Their singular focus is on the movies that they make together and in that, they give each other the space to shine.

From the time they were struggling artists to being the successful movies makers they have become, they are the same Shamim and Hanan who make sure that we have a great meal whenever we meet and have a hearty conversation!

In this book, Laura Marks examines one of the world's most impressive, and affecting, bodies of independent and experimental cinema from the last twenty-five years: film and video works from the Arabic-speaking world. Some of these works' creative strategies are shared by filmmakers around the world; others arise from the particular economic, social, political, and historical circumstances of Arab countries, whose urgency, Marks argues, seems to demand experiment and invention.

Grounded in a study of infrastructures for independent and experimental media art in the Arab world and a broad knowledge of hundreds of films and videos, Hanan al-Cinema approaches these works thematically. Topics include the nomadism of the highway, nostalgia for '70s radicalism, a romance with the archive, algorithmic and glitch media, haptic and networked space, and cinema of the body. Marks develops an aesthetic of enfolding and unfolding to elucidate the different ways that cinema can make events perceptible, seek connections among them, and unfold in the bodies and thoughts of audiences.

The phrase Hanan al-cinema expresses the way movies sympathize with the world and the way audiences feel affection for, and are affected by, them. Marks's clear and expressive writing conveys these affections in works by such internationally recognized artists and filmmakers as Akram Zaatari, Elia Suleiman, Hassan Khan, Mounir Fatmi, and Joana Hadjithomas and Khalil Joreige, and others who should be better known.

Laura U. Marks is Dena Wosk University Professor in the School for the Contemporary Arts at Simon Fraser University. She is the author of Enfoldment and Infinity: An Islamic Genealogy of New Media Art (MIT Press).

In this exclusive interview, LN caught up with the married couple while they were in Germany for the DLD Women conference and found out why they manage their affairs of the heart, motherhood, film, and business so well.

Hanan Katan: Shamim was magnetic and nothing was happening between her and my best friend, who was at the time looking to settle down with a suitable girl. Shamim and I were more suited to each other.

SS: Quiet, relatively introverted, and passionate about many things, including books and movies. My worst silent rebellions were things like staying up all night listening to the radio commentary when England played cricket in Australia.

SS: I had a broad mix of movie favorites. I loved old movies like His Girl Friday for the snappy dialogue. I liked some of the better Hollywood films, especially comedies, and love stories but I also explored foreign films. The Three Colours series is one I associate with my teenage years and many fabulous French films. When we were really young, my sister and I would do daft things like watch every Elvis film that they put on in the summer holidays or watch The Sound of Music 60 times. Things you look back on, and wonder how you ever had time to do them.

SS: I worked for my dad in finance and life insurance for eight years. I only wanted to write but had to have a proper job. Seriously, all day looking at spreadsheets sent me running home at night to write and I wrote many short stories, a screenplay, and then my first novel, The World Unseen, during that time.

SS: It made me learn how to use my camera better! We had no crew except for Hanan and our two children, so it was lean. But seriously, it made me more aware that everyone can change their own realities just through the stories they tell themselves. In The House of Tomorrow, women, just like us, live in a conflict zone but have found ways to focus on building a future. Not easy to do.

SS: I am hopeful. I think politicians may not manage to end this conflict but my hope is that a critical mass of enough empowered and forward-thinking people in the populations of each side will. The odds against that feel huge when you think of the deep wounds and the feeling that many Palestinians have that they should not have to make any concessions to Israel, together with the fact that many Israelis are carrying on with their everyday lives able to ignore the situation altogether. But still, if you can imagine it, it can happen.

HK: I am producing to support Shamim so all creative decisions are hers and I give her my input. On other subjects, we always discuss them and we usually have the same vision and values. I drive her up the wall with my massive to-do lists!

SS: I am definitely less floaty. I used to get totally lost in writing but when you have children, there is an instinct that you need to be there for them, though I am lucky to have Hanan ever vigilant. And I am finding out I am nowhere near as wise as I thought I was before I had children.

HK: Our boys, like most children, were natural-born negotiators and often times they know how to get their way. Shamim gives in before me usually but we both try to have clear things that are acceptable or not acceptable to us as I am sure most mothers go through. But they are the loves of our life and they complete our family.

HK: The daily emails from fans who were moved and touched by our films is amazing. One fan, who wants to remain anonymous, was the key contributor to TEDxHolyLand as she wanted to support us and was so taken by the films and our courage to be out, despite our Eastern backgrounds, that she felt compelled to support our project at the time.

HK: Homophobic and personal comments were upsetting at the time but we try to look forward and not dwell on negative comments. In general, we have had a lot more positive input and comments and so far on YouTube alone, the number of hits from our videos and from fan videos is at 60 million hits, which is phenomenal.

SS: Do it for pure passion for storytelling and because you feel the film is the best way for you to say what you want to say. It is a hard environment and highly competitive, so you need to know what you want and why you want it.

HK: Creating businesses, managing & growing businesses; quality time with my boys and Shamim, attending amazing conferences, spending time with our dear friends, going to the movies, the theater, traveling, and writing. And focusing on key charities that we sponsor through our Sarif-Kattan Foundation.

SS: Many causes but particularly those related to women and children, because the vulnerability of these two groups should make them more cared for but instead they are often taken advantage of the most.

HK: There is never a better time than now. It is important to make a contribution, regardless of the size and the method. It is also important to set an example for our boys and to encourage them to think of contributing and giving back. It is very important for human being to do whatever they can to help others and we like to do so through education and empowerment as much as we can.

SS: Two standouts for me so far are Polisse, a French film focused on the Child Protection Unit in Paris. Totally harrowing and so real and human in a way that French cinema manages so often. I also enjoyed The Hunger Games. That idea of keeping your dignity in a world that is doing all it can to entice you to lose it. That theme cuts through both movies.

HK: I find it so strange that the US was the place where people gravitated to for freedom of rights and expression and yet it is a very conservative place when it comes to gay rights and the rights of people in love to be able to do so legally and without prejudice. I have a hard time understanding the selective freedom of rights.

HK: Minus a few years working for my dad, I have always worked for myself and I loved creating brands. I was the first to come up with a brand based on Chinese Herbal therapy but positioned it for the premium mass market using Aromatherapy and Chinese Herbs. I then created other brands in that category. Shamim helped me every step of the way.

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